steven hayes was convicted, the first to go on trial. i'm sure you're familiar the gruesome home invasion in connecticut. facing the death penalty now. his defense attorney actually had another client who he was able to get off from the death penalty, also a very brutal murder. got sympathy from the murder because he had been on drugs, had a terrible upbringing. is this going to play here as well, richard? >> well, randi, this case is probably the most gruesome one i've read and seen. i'm sure avery as well. there has been one person put to death in connecticut in the last 50 years, randi. i tell you, if there was ever a case ripe for it, this one is it. the mitigation phase against october 18th where the defense attorney will try to show this jury, the same skrjury that cam back less than four hours after