it makes an impact. this is the alaska senate race. our country deserves better pac, which is the tea party express, gave a lot of money to joe miller, the candidate in alaska. the money started coming in back in july, $550,000 total. when the money started coming in, lisa murkowski was leading 62% to 30%. the money flowed in, on primary day, joe miller won that race 59/49. pretty easy to make the case there that outside spending helps his campaign because it dwarfed his other spending. with me now to have this debate, tim phillips, the president of americans for prosperity, and bill addison, editorial director of the sunlight foundation, who doesn't like them. simple question off the top. we have seen the impact of this money, why is it a bad idea? the court says let it in. >> well, i think, one of the biggest problems is we don't know where the money is coming from. if you go back to 2004, 2006, 2008, a report was released