and your master. and let him know that the acts that he was engaged in were not necessarily meaning that he was a homosexual, or that either of them was. but rather the pastor, bishop long, was releasing his passion and his love for anthony. >> shayne, what do you think of that, and what mark said, that there's an underlying homophobia, with not only this case but the media and how it's interpreted in the public? >> you can go back to any james baldwin novel that deals with the church to see the black church as a hot bed of sensuality and at times powerful people exploiting people under them, to yield to those temptations. but the difference here is, if bishop long were accused by women, i think it would be -- even if he was guilty, there would be a chance he could survive. the fact that the black church has such a strong stance -- or i should say black churches have a