relationship and what happened. and then we'll talk about it. >> anthony was moved in and lived in that house for approximately at the end of 11th grade when he was 17 years old. and there the pastor started to do what adult pedophiles do with younger people, which is starting to spend time with them, casually watch tv with them and lay his legs on him and then ask him to massage him. and then start explaining to him how special he was to him, and it was special for the bishop to be able to spend time with him. they did devotional readings together. he was over there on a regular basis at this house. >> what do you think when you hear that? what do you think when you hear that, john? >> i still have a feeling that those are not the intentions of bishop.