if we want to make a breakthrough, we will have to start when they are young. >> you are saying that young killeds should not drink milk, is that what you are saying dr. arnish? >> no, there is a spectrum of choices. what president clinton is doing what you might call the pound of cure. if you are trying to reverse a chronic disease like heart disease, we also show that the same changes can stop, and reverse the progression of prostate cancer and diabetes and high cholesterol and then you need bigger changes. but if you try the lose a few pounds or get the cholesterol down, start with moderate changes, and if that works, great. if not, do more. >> doctor, is this the one ta you live on? >> yes, i certainly do. my dad had his first heart attack at age 43, and i have been eating this way for 23 years.