ines sainz takes a shot at this group that you helped found. and she says, a group of news people and communicators, eager to make an even bigger scandal out of the situation, have moved women's rights backwards at least 50 years. >> i disagree. i've spent the better part of a week defending a woman i'll never meet, ines sainz, and proudly, as have so many other women, howie. we didn't want to do it this week, we didn't pick this battle, but it came to us and we have taken the battle on. and i'm very proud of that. again, i would say that new york reporters who cover the team, they were the ones that broke this story. they were talking about catcalls and hooting in the locker room. i've never dealt with that, and that is completely over the line. rex ryan, the coach of the team, leading these drills to throw a football near here, that sounds like something right out of a fifth grade playground, not out of a workplace. so i'm proud to have talked about and dealt with this issue and defended miss sainz and i certainly hope she would understand why we did that. >> just briefly, once the jets apologize, i would have thought