women that come over on a tourist visa. and i said yes. i'm familiar with it. i refer to it as vacation babies because they come over sensibly on a vacation. and he said how do you know about it? and i said, well, i've got some friends, retired fbi folks. we've talked about it. and there's been some things on tv. >> she says she said vacation babies, not tourism babies. fair enough. she and jack had been talking about women coming here. some of them on tourist visas specifically to have babies who become american citizens. she brought up the terror angle. she brought it up out of the blue. i never heard about it. jack gray never heard about it. he didn't mention it to her because he never heard about it. none of us even -- or didn't know that louis gohmert had talked about it before miss riddle goes on. she claims she was not used to being on tv, even though she's been in this office for many years and that we asked her about terror babies and she didn't understand what we were talking about. >> when you are stuck in a room, a -- something about half the