ratesings? let's figure out who makessi th decisions and put policies in place so there is some context. >> i think you're rht in that we spend -- the media spends so much more time on this issue, but it also had become an ternational event in can people were rioting and -- >> no, no, i don't believe -- >> hold on. [ all talking at once ] >> there was a "new york times" story in the last week of august, it still didn't get much action until the patraeus comment in the "wall street journal" -- >> but i still think you have a problem here of trying to keep a lid on some -- i think in terms of proportionality it shouldn't get this attention. but i'm saying no matter what you would decide if you were running cnn, howie, i don't think it would have had a big pact on keeping this guy off the screen. this crazy guy off the screen. agreement, this agreement to -- no to cover it has dangerous potential. we did go through this befwsore with every news organization in america agreed ton show the allow cartoons, ton people to see what those -- note