the only position i have is god did not create the universe, god became the universe. okay. >> larry: deepak, what do you think of stephen hawking? >> i think he's the most important figure in our time. he has iconic stature, similar to einstein in our time. he -- his mind roams the edges of the universe. he's most significant scientist. he has the greatest amount of perceived authority in the world right now. >> larry: father spitzer, what do you think of stephen hawking? >> i think he is obviously a very intelligent physicist. i think at the same time, though, certainly capable of oversights, as we all are, particularly the oversight about nothingness, giving rise to something in the absolute sense, with all due respect to deepak. i think also maybe even some logical errors that might be