dealing with this. we really feel like the most effective policies and initiatives would be ones that protect any child against bullying for any reason. >> what does that mean? specifically, how do you do that? >> the correct focus would be preventing the wrong actions of the bully, not focusing on the characteristics of the victims. it doesn't matter why the victim was targeted. what matters is that their harm -- harming them was wrong for any reason. >> eliza, your group has been accused by focus on the family by spreading what they call a gay agenda in schools. why do you need to talk about or mention gays and lesbians in anti-bullying efforts? >> candi and i absolutely agree that all students need to be protected. the fact is and the data bears out, if you don't mention the specific problem, teachers don't act and students don't have a better experience. our bill would cover all students but indicate specifically that you must also