i quit being jealous of younger women. >> larry: did you watch her on oprah? >> i did. i taped it and watched it later. >> larry: was that hard? >> no, it wasn't hard. >> larry: really? >> no. >> larry: you have a lot of resilience. >> i ought to write a book like that. >> larry: it wasn't hard to watch? >> no. >> larry: all right. let's get to what we have to get to. in which a lot of people were shocked. and that's the book "game change." >> yep. >> larry: the best-seller written by john heileman and mark halperin, two respected reporters, and it is very critical of you with quotes from staff and others. did you read the book? >> i did not read the book. >> larry: you must know about this -- >> i do know about it. there are some things that actually -- that did happen. in this book. time when i was in a lot of pain. the various staff members are actually probably limited to maybe two staff members.