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complain and saying do the i feel your pain, first of all, you could say i fieel your pain nobody believes it. this company was started at the time of corrupt social measures. it falls on him and all these other oil companies. all these other oil companies didn't spend one dime invest ng a cleanup technology and you can argue that certainly has affected their bottom line of profitability. we see they're in pretty bad shape. >> get off your high horse, because the fact of the matter is, as long as americans continue to want and demand the very cheapest in fuel and are not prepared to invest in the clean technologies, the higher taxes necessary, they want to drive big gas-guzzling vehicles, you're going to end up with profit first. >> no problem there. you're right on that one. that one gets us into trouble all the time because everybody wants some very discreet entity

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