on. if a hurricane moves into here, they've got to be making preparations now. right? they've got to have a few days lead to get people out who are still in the gulf? >> sure. and the cap thing is the best possible scenario that it's working. because they're not pumping any oil out of it right now. if they were pumping, then all of a sudden they would have to shut the pumps off and all the oil would keep going. the reason why they wanted to cap this thing -- this temporary cap -- call it temporary cap in the first place is in case a hurricane comes. so now we did it before the hurricane came. and so that the -- the best possible scenario is out there. >> and a story that hasn't had a lot of good twists, this might be one of them. >> pressure is still rising, we're going through this. the pressure is still rising, that's a good sign. we don't see any leaks, no oil is leaking from the ocean floor. >> okay. we'll be back with you for lots and lots of different parts of this, because we've got a lot of things going on, a lot of moving parts today, including, we have been talking about bp. the chief, tony hayward, there are reports in the "times" of