completion engineer, he then needed to take the 14.2 pounds per gallon mud which was holding 12,000 bottom hole pressure that he was circulating that out and replacing it with sea water. good procedure if you had a cement job. but had no cement job, then -- >> larry: the mud is from the bottom, right? >> no, the mud is from the top. >> larry: the mud is from the top? >> sure. you mixed it up. it's 14.2 pounds per gallon. and so he has that to keep the well dead. and -- but he doesn't know whether he has a cement job or not. >> larry: is halliburton play any part in fault here? >> i don't think so. from my -- and i've had contact. i've had calls with tony hayward and i have talked to others that have worked on the well. and, no, i don't -- from what i
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