policy positions of their own that supports actually smaller government and supports lower taxes. but they find themselves side by side with some within the tea party movement that would carry those very racist signs, the kind of folks that would spit on african-american members of congress, the kind of folks who would call the first sitting member of the u.s. congress that happens to be gay the "f" word and call congressman -- congressman from kansas city, missouri, the "n" word. so that raises some concerns. we're simply calling upon them to actually notice that this being utilized that way. >> hillary, is it good enough that you heard -- you heard mark just a second ago, he rejects that type of stuff you are talking about. this is the leader of the tea party sitting right here with us. he repudiates that. how many leeaders do you need t come out and do that? >> they all really need to. quite frankly we know there are