we've had this conversation many times, the disenchantment about what they perceive as a lack of cured nation between the white house and bf, sometimes the -- as this operation unfolds, is there a sense that maybe finally there are people who have, a, a decent plan, and b, the right level of coordination? >> i think, you know, that admiral allen was instrumental in getting and the administration for getting the second relief well. you can't be too cautious about this. this is an environmental catastrophe. it was underestimated at first, and there will always be problems with organization, but it's already a catastrophe, probably the greatest in the world by the time we find out what happened here, but let's hope this thing work. a lot of these engineers and coast guard people have been