moderate conservative -- >> but there was a role for you? >> there was a distinct role for women and from an eastern perspective, from western, it's unfair to women and i was a child of the women's liberation movement at the time. so i was in conflict. and uncertainty. >> do you awl ever have contact. >> we're best friends. and i know you're going to ask about the other. >> i mean, that was the love of your life, you said. >> freddy prince. >> he was wonderful, and i didn't invent the cougar word, the definition. he and he had this wonderful, you love it when a man says wear that, wear that, baby, that would look good. so nice. >> glitzy and glamorous. >> you're pam grier. >> he loved -- >> in a was wonderful. he had this taste and style and it was great to see that. and that i wasn't competing and he didn't feel -- >> the furs and diamonds --