joining me now from boston is democratic governor bill richardson from new mexico and in phoenix, republican congressman trent franks from arizona. gentlemen, thank you both. i want to start with you, governor richardson. i know you are opposed to the arizona law. you agree with the administration, the justice department filing to get an injunction from keeping that law from going into effect. but do you not have a certain sympathy for the state of arizona, which has a number of problems going on, including just the price to the state, which you well know, of undocumented workers in terms of education, in terms of health care and not to mention some of the violence that has happened in arizona that can be attributable to illegal aliens? >> well, yes, candy, i am sympathetic to arizona. they're a border state. they're a neighbor state. we've had similar problems in