because it all depends on the size of the economy. so really the central question, we're talking about sort of stimulus versus deficits, do you want to tax more, do you want to spend more. the real center issue is how do you get the economy to grow. and a half a percent or an extra percent a year of economic growth solves a heck of a lot of problems. and that really i think needs to be the central question of the debate. >> you can have the economy growing robustly, steven, and then suddenly you turn that whole situation upside down. no matter what, don't you have to have either cutting spending or raising taxes or some combination of both, you can economy on its own fix this problem? >> first of all, i agree entirely that the first thing we have to do is get this economy growing. and that's why i just think it really is such economic insanity to be talking about raising tax rates on capital investment. what we need in this country is investment in the country from foreigners around the world. they're not going to invest here if our tax rates are unup while