and say we will send 500 -- 100,000 more troops or 50,000 more troops. many military experts say the number of troopts we have now is sufficient for stabilizing the region. >> larry: i will ask you both, only have about a minute left, we asked governor kaine, we will ask you what do you make of the justice department filing suit against the immigration? >> not surprised they will file suit, what have you. i think they are going to find they are wrong what arizona did was cod fay federal law already in place. all they are going to do is live by the law the federal government has in place. that's what they are doing. the federal government is at fault here for not doing anything. there is an answer, i suggest people go to red card solution.org. there is an answer, not going to court. >> larry: what do you think? >> michael andry probably in agreement that this isn't -- the lawsuit isn't the answer here. i do agree the federal government has to do something. having a draconian, xenophobic immigration policy is not the answer. we need comprehensive immigration reform. if we don't do that we will continue to have state like a