cash portion of this benefit? >> but it's taxpayer money, though. i mean, this is taxpayer money and it should be a no brainer that you shouldn't be able to achieve -- retrieve cash in tempting places like a strip club or a casino. >> well, over the last week the thinking seems to have changed and they've decided they are going to start placing value judgments on where people can and can't withdraw their cash. >> let's push forward and make the point that you broke the story and then all of a sudden there is an 18-page reform plan released by the california department of social services director. tell us about that report and how far will it go? i mean, will it extend into massage parlors, bingo halls, other places of temptation? >> right. that was, you know, the report begins, first they say they're getting rid of about 200 atms in casinos and strip clubs and then it goes on to list other businesses that are under review, you know, deciding