outgoing first lady? >> very well. she gave me a tour of the white house, after the election was finally decided, which you remember was 36 days after election day. >> larry: what was that like? >> that was wild. she gave me a tour, and she was very forthcoming with advice which i appreciated a lot. we walked all over the white house and saw everything. and one of the things she pointed out was the window from the upstairs dressing room, the first lady's dressing room that looks down on to the rose garden. and she said that barbara bush had pointed that window out to her, and that bar had said if there is an event in the rose garden where the president was speaking, she would look out that window or look over in the office. and hillary told me that. so when i gave michelle obama the tour, i passed on this is the window to look out. >> larry: what is it like to live there? >> it's really unbelievable to live there. it's such a magnificent house. so many reminders of all the