violent, as you say. there were serious riots going on in all of the streets around me here, ending in three people actually losing their lives. but i think the loss of life, the tragic loss of life as a result of those riots has to a certain extent tamed the sentiment here, and that people are beginning -- the latest opinion polls show, to sort of accept that these reforms are actually necessary, and that they're just going to have to shoulder them, ali. >> all right. so greece is the epicenter for this. phil black is in berlin, which in many ways is the other part of show here. greece -- germany, the largest economy in europe, the one that is most tied to what happens in greece on some levels, phil, the most reluctant to get involved, and yet the one that needed a solution more than anyone else. you're in berlin. what's the sense there? >> yeah, ali. as you say, as the region's biggest economy, germany has played a huge role in threshing this out. and this deal, this package to stabilize the euro has opinion well received here.