know you don't like that term because of the politics of it. but what do they need? >> they have a policy gap, it's probably $300 billion that they're going to have to be having to fill in some way, the teacher piece that i think everyone agrees is really important is much smaller than that. you can get a kind of sense there are bills in the house that have been talking about maybe another $25 billion for state and local governments has being part of something that could be very helpful. the president's very aware we're in a very tough budget situation, he wants anything he does to be targeted, particularly high bank for the buck, we think this is one that might pass that test. >> let's talk about the broader economy and the global concerns, we're seeing what's happened in greece and across europe in recent days, and there are some including stay that the joint economic hearing when the report was being delivered to the congress, some republicans saying if you look at our debt to gdp ratio, it's right up there, and if you look at ifm