>> that was very interesting, too, allan, that you point that out because that was quite -- that was a bit controversial when the mayor decided to close parts of times square off to traffic and let pedestrians hang out at the mall, spark right in the middle of the city concrete park, right in the middle of the city. they felt that some -- some police officers and some people felt that it would sort of make people a target in some sense because more people could congregate there and the cars and the trucks and the vehicles provided a shield if someone tried to do this. it's a bit controversial. allan, you're standing there. it's a beautiful summer day, i would imagine. it's packed, all of a sudden, police come out, the bomb squad comes out and then all heck breaks loose. >> i can tell you there are plenty of tourists, plenty of new yorkers here standing right behind the police -- right behind the police wire. and it looks like the bomb squad is now -- now arriving.