even begin debating reform. i'm not asking them to vote for the bill. i just want to let them debate it. you've learned these senate rules are complicated. so they won't even let it get on the floor to be debated. it's one thing to oppose reform, but to oppose just even talking about reform in front of the american people and having a legitimate debate, that's not right. >> just ahead at 7:30. we'll speak with chris dodd about his efforts to move financial reform forward. president obama likely to get and earful today as he talks about wall street reform, the homestretch of his white house to main street tour. suzanne malveaux joins us from iowa today. what people thought of the goldman sachs grilling yesterday, suzanne?