too guilty about this, one of my jobs is to make capital markets more efficient. so there is a noble skpetical reason for my job. amazing how good i am convincing myself." now joining us sonny hoffman and alexis glick who started her career at goldman sachs. welcome to both of you. alexis, you know, you've obviously been following this along and you started at goldman. you know this place. they're standing firm, day didn't do anything wrong. the way i see it, and again, i'm a doctor, you're a financial person, sonny's a lawyer, so it makes for a good joke, but the way i see it, they're taking their own money and investing thisn things that are more surefire and taking investors' money and investing in things that weren't as stable, even though they knew that. is that fair and is congress going to buy that something was wrong there? >> well, here's the issue, when you're a broker dealer like this, and let's not forget that when goldman sachs were executing these transactions, these complex derivatives back then, first of all, they were