and save 50% on pads and shoes. meineke. welcome back. we're talking to the governor of michigan, jennifer granholm , detroit. lots of press about detroit lately, that it's a dying city, no longer the big motor city we talked about before. david simon that's been in the series for hbo on post-katrina new orleans and the battle to come back said something to me in an interview which struck me that great countries don't abandon their great cities. is there a feeling in detroit that a great country has abandoned a great city. >> i think there's a lot more hope in detroit. there's no doubt. the analogies between new orleans and katrina. they had a natural disaster that was immediate. our hurricane has been an