i hung up with a republican source who said that he talked to these negotiators who are talking democrats and republicans and they say this is real. they're checking the box and checking things off on issues. >> how about this development? okay. there's always another side to this. so what are the bank, the big, financial firms doing to sort of prevent this train from gaining even more momentum here, dana? >> well, the banks and really all sides that have interest in this and we're talking about billions and billions of dollars of interest have done something that many people do for many issues. they have hired lobbyists, a lot of lobbyists and yesterday we were at a committee hearinging where they actually passed sort of a version or part of the larger attempt to reform wall street and that was this committee voted to have new, tough limits on wall street and specifically those controversial derivative trades, but when we went there, we did see many of