but very much an in-your-face demonstration. >> there are a couple other t n things going on there as well, they're trying to bring back an open era in american politics where guns with a normative part of the practice of politics. >> if you look at this country's history in the late 18th century and early 19th century, a lot of politics involved. guns were a part of physical festivity. i think they're trying to bring that back. >> let me ask you to look at the larger trend. it does appear we are seeing a rise in right wing extremism recently. there are a number of studies that have looked at this. the department of homeland security says it's perhaps the economy or the president's race. what do you see as driving recruitment right now beyond just sort of the generic more --