had been discussed. >> and you know, ken, the other interesting thing, you just spoke to this as well, that the president's plan, democrats say we need to cover 31 million uninsured americans. there's 47 million uninsured americans they argue and when you talk to republicans senator john cornyn, said that's a wildly inflated number, when you talk about people that want and need insurance and can't afford it, you're talking about a much lower number. if you can't agree on who wants and needs health insurance at various stages of their lives how can you move forward who is going to get it under a plan? >> well, i mean, again, going to the facts are really important as we've been talking about. according to the census bureau, about 46 million americans on a typical day don't have health insurance coverage, so that's a fact. secondly, on the cost of insurance if you look at people buying insurance in the individual market by themselves, the congressional budget office has said 18 million will have lower premiums.