that we give american citizens that are tried here. for instance if you are interrogating somebody who find out whether they placed a bomb on a plane and you mirandize them first and give them a lawyer, the chances are you're not going to find out whether that's going to happen. and it's my understanding that the people who are go to be tried were not mirandized before they were questioned. when you're tried, it's important that if you make a statement prior to being mirandized that it won't stick. i don't necessarily think that will make us a panacea around the world of justice trying these people in civilian court to make us look absolutely meticulous. >> larry: the crime was committed in new york. >> the ultimate act. the conspiracy was not. the ultimate act may have been in new york city.