iconic post office across the road. cnn radio steve kastenbaum has been on this from the stimulus desk, he joins me from his post in new york. tell me the story. >> everybody agrees penn station is a horrible place. everybody agrees this is one of the projects that makes sense. it's a good place to spend stimulus dollars, so it's a, quote, shovel-ready project, and that means they're ready to go on that, right? well, senator schumer said this will create a bunch of jobs. we think it will create about 400 jobs once they get going with phase one. they'll build new entrances. they'll expand some concourses and create better access to the platforms, but do you know what, even with this shovel-ready -- the shovel-ready project all ready to go, it will still be many months before the 400 people start working, and it's not going to be done until maybe 2015. so, here's an example of a project ready to go, it's got the approval of just about everybody who needs to approve it, everybody loves it as a project, they want to get it