they thought they could help because you see they're good at doing things. they're good at doing renovations, they're very handy. as far as the logistics are concerned, according to his wife they had absolutely no knowledge of it. listen to rene thompson. was there any discussion about what needed to take place in order to transport children to the dominican republic? >> you know, my husband was not -- he was not in charge of any of the legal or official documents on the trip. yeah. >> reporter: and so in his mind it was just to go help and the details about how it was going to get done, that was left to somebody else? >> right, right. they were just asked to help. >> so does -- i mean, does renee know anything about what's happening on the ground? is there finger pointing going on in the group or are they all still now standing together? >> reporter: in terms of finger pointing they're not willing to place blame on laura silsby. they say they want to hear the entire story from their loved