operations — able to conduct longer space station operations. fire able to conduct longer space station 0 erations. �* , , ., operations. are we seeing the start of a new space _ operations. are we seeing the start of a new space race _ operations. are we seeing the start of a new space race or _ operations. are we seeing the start of a new space race or will - operations. are we seeing the start of a new space race or will there i operations. are we seeing the start of a new space race or will there be areas of collaboration? i of a new space race or will there be areas of collaboration?— areas of collaboration? i would be very hepeful_ areas of collaboration? i would be very hopeful that _ areas of collaboration? i would be very hopeful that there _ areas of collaboration? i would be very hopeful that there would - areas of collaboration? i would be very hopeful that there would be i very hopeful that there would be areas _ very hopeful that there would be areas of — very hopeful that there would be areas of collaboration, but the political — areas of collaboration, but the political climate frankly has gotten worse _ political climate frankly has gotten worse over the last 15 years since i left nasa _ worse over the last 15 years since i left nasa rather than better, and i don't _ left nasa rather than better, and i don't know— left nasa rather than better, and i don't know if that's going to happen _ don't know if that's going to happen. but as far as the space race noes. _ happen. but as far as the space race goes, probably not. certainly not like the _ goes, probably not. certainly not like the apollo programme when we were racing to the moon against the soviet— were racing to the moon against the soviet union because now we have an international space station that has been in _ international space station that has been in operation for a little over 20 years— been in operation for a little over 20 years and we expected to operate through— 20 years and we expected to operate through at— 20 years and we expected to operate through at least 2028 or 2030, and the chinese petition will be the only game in town. it's almost a haton— only game in town. it's almost a baton pass _ only game in town. it's almost a baton pass. hopefully we in the west will he _ baton pass. hopefully we in the west will be working on a lunar programme and perhaps— will be working on a lunar programme and perhaps landing humans on the moon— and perhaps landing humans on the moon by— and perhaps landing humans on the moon by that time, but that is all very uncertain right now. and china has made _ very uncertain right now. and china has made no — very uncertain right now. and china has made no secret of their