the clock radio or do you just compromise and listen to the today programme? you can be honest, you are amongst friends. i have the privilege of listening to fabulous radio from the uk and across seven other countries around europe where we operate as well. so four nordic countries, most recently the republic of ireland, poland and slovakia, and everywhere we are, we find that radio as a medium, as a platform, is enduring and growing. very diplomatic answer. you are not naming one. but also with us today are iain lee and katherine boyle, presenters of the late night alternative. iain, for our listeners who are not familiar, how would you describe the programme? it is a surreal, psychedelic phone—in show, where instead of stirring hate and pointing out others that look and sound different and saying, hate them, we celebrate love, life and art. and to be difficult, you are not actually on late at night any more, you are on in the morning. yes, we decided we could mix it up because we are now our own|