Transcripts For CSPAN3 National 20240704

Washington d. C. [background noises] lisa welcome to the stage board member Vice President of global Government Relations. Please welcome to the intersect stage iti board member and Vice President global Government Relations at meta. [ applause ] hi, everyone. That was a very good [ applause ] i dont know. Are you all asleep after lunch . Come on. [ applause ] welcome, everyone. Great to have you here. It is my honor to welcome you to the second animal intersect tech and policy summit. My name is, i write global Government Relations for net app. Are very proud as well to serve on the iti board of directors. This is a great crowd we have here today. I dont think everyone is all in from lunch. Everyone is chitchatting a little bit, which is okay. We also have a lot of people online, over 1000 people registered to participate, which is awesome. Very exciting. I think that is a testament to all that is currently happening on tech policy today. Is not really a surprise there is such interest considering the level of speakers we have today. In our world, it is never a dull moment. There is no exception to that right now. Technology continues to evolve, as it always does. But this year has been a landmark year for innovation. With generative a. I. Exploding onto the scene and grabbing everyones attention, much to some of our dismay. Did i hear at lunch, 10 congressional bills each year the next 10 years. Thats a lot. But somehow it seems to me that at this time we are at an important inflection point. Many of the issues we are working on these days may truly determine the course of our future. Therefore, it is fitting that we have taken advantage of the opportunity resented by todays conference to bring together smart minds from all different backgrounds, professions and opinions to tackle these topics head on. Today were going to take stock of some of the major tech policy milestones that transpired over the past year. We will discuss the biden a. I. Executive order, known to many of us as the gift that never stops giving, with the very people setting the vision for a i the u. S. Federal government. We will also get an update on how the chips and science act is impacting main streets across america. Cybersecurity and a. I. , in particular, stand at the forefront of todays digital landscape. Around the world, the current status cybersecurity reflects an over growing need for robust measures to safeguard our digital infrastructure. With Cyber Threats and increasingly sophisticated attacks continuing to proliferate, including for the use of a. I. , the imperative for collaboration between the public and private sectors has never been more apparent. That is why, as someone who is been in the cybersecurity world many years, i will not admit how many in front of this large audience, i am thrilled we will hear today from, not just one, but two of the worlds for most cybersecurity leaders this afternoon. I had the pleasure to meet one of the backstage a few moments ago, the National Cyber director, who will take the stage momentarily. I have been lucky to have had the opportunity to attend and host many tech forums and work with many trade associations over the years, and i can tell you that this event and this organization really do stand apart. Iti is truly comprehensive on tech policy, covering the full tech waterfront of policy issues. And truly global. It has tremendous benefits to netapp and the other member companies. These member companies, many of whom are here today in the room, great to see all of you here, welcome, or a veritable whos who of top talent from across the world. Welcome. We are glad to have everyone together in one place. I also want to give a special welcome to our virtual audience, who is joining us online, to our friends in europe, asia, australia, south america, or anywhere else. Were really glad youre here with us today as well. Of course, this event would not have been possible without the generous support of our sponsors and iti member companies. Let me give special thanks to accenture, amazon, cisco systems, cognizance, ericsson, mastercard, meta, my own organization, netapp, nielsen, qualcomm, sage, salesforce and siemens for their sponsorship of todays program. I will now ask you to silencing your phones and turn off your rigors, but dont put them away. We will invite you to share the intersect experience with your audiences. Tweet, post, engage on social media however you like as we move through todays programming. You will find us on twitter and at the intersect 2024. Go ahead and post away all day long, please. We will also do some digital polling throughout the program. You will need your phones to participate in those. You will see instructions showing up on the screen as we go. You will be able to scan the qr code or go to the pigeonhole web address and enter your code to join. Your submissions will be anonymous. We appreciate your participation. Lets get the ball rolling. Is my great pleasure to welcome the president and ceo of iti, our fearless leader, who will be introducing the opening keynote speaker. [ applause ] thanks for getting us kicked off. Hi, everybody. So great to see directly, i cant see any of you, but if the light were shining in my face, it would be great to see you. We really appreciate you taking time out to be with us today. It is an exciting day. We have an amazing lineup. We already had some terrific speakers, and we have even more to come. On behalf of the whole team, thank you so much for being here with us today. It is now my great honor to welcome our opening keynote speaker who will start the intersect off for us. National cyber director. He is a graduate of the west naval academy, the Naval Postgraduate School and Georgetown University law center. He has received numerous accolades from across his many years of service to our nation, such as the National Intelligence distinguished Service Medal for exceptional service. Is served as the executive director of the nsa. He also played a strategic role across the intelligence community, including extensive experience at c. I. A. As well, marked by leadership in digital innovation, in science and technology of public affairs. It showcases his commitment to excellence, and i can say our nation is very lucky that he has decided to return to service as a National Cyber director. This is his first speech in washington since being confirmed to the role. I ask you all to please join me in welcoming to the intersect stage the National Cyber director. [ applause ] good afternoon. I am delighted to be here and thank you, jason for that gracious introduction. Good afternoon. I am delighted to be here. Thank you for that gracious introduction. It made me wonder who he was talking about. But i will take it. I am excited to join you all this afternoon to kick off this event. You probably surmised by the cane and shoes that i had a procedure not long ago. I had my left knee replaced two weeks ago. I may not be able to kick this off in the fashion i would like to, i still cant get into my dress shoes. I hope you forgive me for wearing air jordans i heard i needed to kick this thing off, so i will take the power of any athlete, especially the goat, to get it done. In all seriousness, i am honor to stand before you as the nations second National Cyber director. I particularly pleased to be here at the intersect summit. You all have been great collaborators, and we are grateful to an organization like iti for helping to create opportunities for engagement that drive meaningful change. At the office of the National Cyber director, we like to say engage early and often. Im here early in my tenure, and you can expect to see me back on a regular basis. If jason will have me, anyway. I have been on the job for a little over seven weeks. I have to tell you, i was humbled, but also quite excited to be called back to serve. I dont know that any other position couldve brought me out of my second retirement, but this one, due to the potential to make a Lasting Impact for the nation, was an easy decision for me. After 43 years in the navy and the intelligence community, it truly is a privilege to help new and critical office, contribute to the safety and prosperity of the American People. One thing you should know about me, i love to solve hard problems. That was a driving factor in my decision to return to government service. And again, to quote the goat, michael jordan, obstacles dont have to stop you if you run into a wall, dont turn around and give up, figure out how to climb it and go through it or work around it. Hard problems really do energize me. I grew up, there is a cold war in the navy when our nation faced the hard problem of the soviet union. As part of the intelligence community, i was extremely proud to take on what we now refer to as the great power competition. Part of my contribution to those efforts included incorporating the opensource enterprise into the agencys director of Digital Integration and also the mission centers. All of those challenges were hard, but cybersecurity is a different kind of hard problem. It stems from the threat, which is very real and persistent, one example, amongst many, the threat from the peoples republic of china. Last week i had the honor of testifying in front of the House Select Committee focused on the Chinese Communist party with my colleagues from across the federal government. In particular, the f. B. I. Director and my friend and former boss who recently retired , u. S. Cyber command and director of nsa. It was an important moment for us to appear together to articulate the full measure of the threat posed by china, and to demonstrate coherence and collaboration across our federal enterprise. Cyber actors from the peoples republic of china are actively working to gain access into our nations Critical Infrastructure systems with the purpose of disruption, or worse, destruction. In the early stages of armed conflict, they want to disrupt our military ability to mobilize and to impact the systems that allow us to thrive in our increasingly digital world. Their intention is to drive home a point that so many of us have known for years, in cyberspace, the private sector, as well as the American People themselves, are on the front lines. As we all know, the vast majority of the Critical Infrastructure in our nation is owned and operated by the private sector. Folks, protecting and defending america from the growing number of Cyber Threats is a hard problem. Ensuring the short and long term protection, defense and resilience of the systems that underpin our increasingly digital way of life is a hard problem. Ensuring that the internet remains open, free, global, interoperable, reliable, and importantly, secure, anchored in universal values that respect human rights and fundamental freedoms is a hard problem. Harder still is what we do about it. After all, belligerent states have postured their military forces aggressively for millennia. America has had plenty of success responding to hostile actions outside the domain of cyberspace, but as we said last week, the risk we face within the cyberspace today is unacceptable. There are plenty of actions that we have, can and will take to address counter normative behavior. A necessity to partner with so many of you in this room is absolutely essential. How we collectively seize the initiative from her adversaries. How we take the talent your organizations and channel our collective energy towards countering the growing number of malicious actors. How we collectively leverage the amazing technologies you all create, which improve the ways we work, live and play, and ensure they are a source of strength and not vulnerability. And not just the vulnerability to your companies or the federal government, how do we truly help local governments or the schools and hospitals struggling to protect themselves . Or one of the more than 50,000 public Water Systems spread across our great nation . Thankfully, the president has started us out on the right foot. From the very beginning of this administration, President Biden made cybersecurity a priority. He brought in some outstanding people, and some of them will be with you here today. My dear friend, the Deputy National security advisor at the National Security council, who will join you all later this afternoon, has made incredible progress from driving the development of the executive order to pushing for the creation of cyber trust mark. I would be remiss if i did not mention my white house colleague, steve benjamin, formerly of columbia, south carolina, but currently the director of public engagement. You will see him this afternoon. Hears outreach on behalf of the administration is key to strengthening our partnerships and delivering outcomes. At oncd we have been lucky to have had set our organization on the right course. True champions of this office and our mission. I am proud and lucky to build upon the foundation those leaders set for us. Were also standing on the shoulders and the wisdom of congress, who established the office of National Cyber director in 2021 following a recommendation by the cyberspace solarium commission. I was pleased to meet with many of those commissioners last week, and i can tell you that their insight continues to be of great value to me, and frankly, to all of us. Leaders know you cant tackle hard problems without good people. It also takes a good plan and some good oldfashioned grit. My am hopeful that this group has heard quite a bit about the National Cyber Security Strategy. And the bold shifts it calls for. Number one, shifting the responsibility away from individuals and Small Businesses and onto the larger institutions capable of bearing more responsibility in cyberspace. And number two, realigning incentives to favor longterm investment in cybersecurity. That has been said before, and i agree with it, but allow me to share my take on this important strategy. I see this bull because of the underlying vision and the tenacity. The work the office sets out explicitly, the hard problems we have to solve, and it takes them headon. The strategy says we have to take problems like the fact that the internet was built on insecure foundations, so were finally implementing improvements to the border gateway protocol. The strategy says that we need to hold Software Manufacturers accountable when they rush insecure code to market. We are working with the Academic Community and legal experts to explore different liability regimes. We will soon be engaging with you to hear the private sector perspective. The strategy says that smart regulations minimize the compliance burden on companies. So we are working with partners across the interagency to harmonize requirements and using the feedback many of you have already provided us in response to our request for information. The strategy says that we need to develop a diverse and robust National Cyber workforce to meet the challenge of this decisive decade. So we are working aggressively to build and foster ecosystems and communities across the nation to fill the more than 500,000 cyber Jobs Available today. To that end, i have already been to a job fair and career event at the Community College of baltimore county, and i am thrilled to have heard from an incredible array of students, faculty and employers. It was great. It was great to see, and we made progress. We have some employers that had not visited that institution before and came away impressed. We will follow up on that and do similar events across the country exposing people to opportunities. But every one of the problems i mentioned are hard in their own right. Each of the ones i mentioned have been studied for decades. Each remains pernicious, but unresolved. What makes the National Cyber Security Strategy bold is its clarity that the hard problems, issues once deemed too complicated, are precisely what we need to tackle in order to seize the initiative from the adversaries that would do our nation heart. My predecessors at oncd made a clear commitment to transparency and accountability by publishing the National Cyber security implementation plan. As a former program manager, i found it impressive as ive come to watch the team put the shoulder to the wheel every day with our counterparts across the agency. Trust is built on openness, and we commit to you that when we do report on our progress you will hear about, not just where we succeeded but where we came up short with the intent of getting better. In the coming months, you will see the report on the efforts today and the next phase of the strategies and implementation. One additional thing about the strategies and implementation plan, policy solutions are not selfexecuting. It is true that developing solutions to the hard problems in cyberspace is a fundamental responsibility of our office, but so is carrying them to fruition. Thankfully, i am not alone. There are 80 incredible patriots i get to work with every day, experts who hail from industry, civil society, federal agencies and capitol hill. Their work includes putting the good ideas, the powerful solutions, the thoughtful strategy into practice to improve the digital foundations of this nation, and to make our nation safer. I am excited about the work that oncd is leading on the open Research Problem of software measurability that makes it difficult to understand the quality of code we use. That work has a 2016 nist paper we are continuing to make progress on. Were also pigeon government and private sector coders to ensure secure by design, incorporating memory safe programming languages. Some of the most dangerous motor abilities the criminals look to exploit our memory safety bugs and maybury safe coding languages prevent those errors from ever making it into production. And yet, developers have been slow to adopt them. Even though many have existed for years. In the coming weeks, you will see us put out a paper that addresses both memory safety and software measurability. Additionally, we are developing guidance to help agencies eliminate unnecessary degree requirements for contracted cybersecurity positions. While this has been mandated for years, it is another tough challenge that has yet to be fully implemented. In many cases, it turns out that implementing the solution is the hardest part of all. That will take partnership. Recall that the first shift in the strategy was about rebalancing responsibility in cyberspace to the most capable actors. That means the government, yes, and it also means all the organizations represented in the room today, and all of you. It will take committed partnership to ensure that the cloud improves cybersecurity and not become a source of heightened systemic concentrated risk. It will take Meaningful Partnership to stop adversaries from using our own systems, whether virtual private sectors as home or Office Routers to launch their attacks. It will take sustained partnership to bring coherence to the federal mission and coordination to unwind the sea of licenses agencies deal with on a daily basis. And it will take Innovative Partnership and your technological knowhow to Scale Solutions that protect pipelines delivering gas to homes in minneapolis or to the hospital providing lifesaving care in my hometown of parsons, cans of. We will not be easy. That is why the National Cyber Security Strategy is our northstar. I appreciate that the strategy traces its lineage back 25 years. That tells me that cyber was, and remains, a bipartisan issue. That tells me that the Public Private partnership was, and remains, core to our success. That also tells me that after a quarter of a century were still dealing with some of the same tough problems. The office of the National Cyber director was built for this challenge. We have the team, we have the vision, and we have the responsibility to make sure we are not scratching our heads at the same hard problems in 2050. It is time to get it done. So i say again, please continue to collaborate with us in a true partnership. That means telling us the truth, even when you think we dont want to hear it. Let us know what is working and what is not. Keep giving us your feedback and your ideas and join us in solving the hard problems for the sake of our nation appa security and prosperity. Thank you. [ applause ] joining us now jason, president and ceo of iti with david senior Vice President of Global Public policy and general counsel at a joining us now, president and ceo of iti. With senior Vice President of Global Public policy and general counsel at amazon. Hi, david. Welcome to the intersect. Are thanks to the director. Terrific to have them here for his first speech inside washington after his appointment to this important role. You know, at iti, we bring policymakers to tell us what we need to be thinking about, but it is also equally, if perhaps not more important, for us to have conversations with Industry Leaders about how we should be crafting our story as advocates for technology here in washington and around the world. Im so thrilled to have david here with us today to help us think through the important policy issues of the day. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me, jason. It is an honor to be here. It is a privilege and honor. It is great to be able to engage with this Larger Community on these important issues. Iti has been around since 1916. We are 108 years old, if i am doing the math. Amazon is not quite that old, but you have been with amazon for a number of years, almost since the beginning, 24 years if i have the number right. Tell us how your role has evolved and what you are responsible for at amazon today. Well, i joined in the fall of 1999. I was the first and only litigation and regulatory attorney to be at amazon back then. The department, the Legal Department, was about 15 people and the Company Revenues were just over 1 billion. I did that for a dozen years. I grew with the company and built out a department. A dozen years later, my boss retired and asked me to take her job. So i became general counsel in 2012. The company was about 61 billion in revenue and the Legal Department was about 250 people. Fast forward to today, and last year i actually had the opportunity to step into the leadership of our Global Public policy organization. That is an additional several hundred people. As this room knows, more than most, really top notch people. And so, where over 500 billion in revenue, and the teams together are more than 2000 people all over the world. It has been an amazing journey. I feel incredibly lucky, very privileged. I think i have the most interesting job for somebody trade is a lawyer that one could possibly have it is going to be hard to convince me that is not true. Welcome as a recovering lawyer myself, i can agree that these kinds of jobs are more interesting than a lot of the other things you can do coming out of law school. That is quite a journey. Obviously, amazon as an iti member and core participate in the tech policy discussions, has a lot to share and offer. Were going to talk about a. I. In particular in a minute. But as you discussed your own journey within the company, i can imagine the company itself has changed a lot over the 24 years you have been there as well. Yeah, it is interesting. In some ways it has changed immensely. We are so much larger. You know, i dont even come close to knowing the first names of all the people who work for me, which is disconcerting. I dont actually like that aspect of it. I think about when i took over, even when i took over general counsel, i could not have imagined in 2012 alexa, airplanes as part of our Logistics Network. And the issues in the and the even since 2012, we have had to grow and adapt and build businesses. That includes lawyers with the issues in those spaces and it has been a conch constant building. Around 2008, we launched devices and i stopped trying to predict the future at all. I see a lot of the same faces around when i walk in the door. A lot of my Senior Leadership are there. One of the guys on the team was on my interview loop and we still talk about the company and think about the company in the same ways. One of our priorities is the culture. To remain a day one oriented company. It means stay limp nimble and stay lean and make decisions quickly. We are not too big to cause a slowdown. That is not easy and we worry a lot about that. In many ways it has changed and in many ways it has not. So, lets talk about the tech policy landscape and focus on ai. That is a lot of the work that has been happening around amazon and generative ai. As what we have heard today from nist and from californias 23rd which is literally the only person with the graduate degree. There is a role to play with informing policymakers about the benefits of ai. People love to talk about how ai is going to in the world, but as a practical matter, we in the industry are not focused on that. We are focused on the positive stories and the good that can come from that. Can you share . In the first incidents, lets talk about what amazon is doing with ai and how we can tell the story to policymakers. For a long time, i resisted the term ai in my office because it is another application of Machine Learning techniques. We did not get involved in investing in Machine Learning in our business for a long time. It is behind the recommendations engine and it is in our filming centers and are processed past and is part of alexis. So, we are part of Machine Learning. And the learning models is incredibly exciting and brings a lot of possibilities. So, we are fully investing in that as well. Amazon has a three tier approach to ai. It is part of my contract and so we are at the base foundation layer. Working on chips that are optimized for training algorithms and doing Machine Learning and ai inferences. It is specially designed to chips that we have been working on to make it more costeffective for building these models. There is a middle layer we built into the Amazon Web Services which easily accesses Services Like bedrock which gives enterprise customers the ability to activate a variety of language models and experiment with them and use them in this safe climate of aws. We have been building guardrails to allow customers to do that safely. Then there is more consumer facing and business facing wishes chat gpt. And we see how rufus is going which is a Shopping System that we see on amazon. I think how ai will radically transform some of the things we do, but it wont happen overnight. We are going to experiment and you will see our customers experiment with different level facing apps that use this technology. Some will be mind blowing late grade and change our lives and some may suck. They are hard and not easy to build and they are not going to build themselves and in some cases expensive. There is time to ilfigure out wt this is and what it isnt. The way amazon has gone about getting into this space and democratizing it for customers but also investing in our own models. Given that breath of policy issues that arise from the breath of business uses of ai, how are you approaching the regulatory environment. It is one thing for me to rely on ai in my Amazon Prime Video use to get a recommendation for the next show to watch. That is different than a visit to one medical to see my primary care physician and to have them tell me the treat midcourse based on people with similar circumstances. Obviously a riskbased approach is important and taking on the different uses. Amazon has so many different use cases for ai. As you and your team traveled the world and talk to different jurisdictions, some of which are further ahead than others as far as moving forward on the ai. In the you see, we are still talking about what may happen at the federal level. Are there guardrails and regulations that amazon says to decisionmakers, that is okay and something we support . Yeah. We have been vocal and supportive of the risk based regulatory approach. We have supported the white house and we were at the uk safety summit. We have supported the out puts of those as well is the g7 summitng in tokyo and that will continue. What is an encouraging aspect of the fact that this is also new and people are noticing it all at once is the opportunity to build consensus about what are the risks and the use cases that really we should be concerned about . How do we work tbackwards from those use cases where the risks are bad to build the right regulatory guardrails and voluntary best practices that will prevent the harms way are all concerned might happen. With that attraction, you need to spell out what is the use case you were worried about and what is the bad thing you are trying to stop. On the flipside of being so s broad is we can cite the examples that you use and with one you should be concerned about in one you should not be so concerned about. When use this technology to make decisions about health and safety or civil rights or things that could profoundly change someones life, you have to move carefully and make surei you are using it with the utmost responsibility for safety and security. So, the problem is, as i alluded to before, is we dont no what those things will be because they havent been released and it is a fraught exercise to start regulating something you dont understand in distance does not exist yet. You could shut off potentially favorable uses of the technology that c could save lives or make lives much better. It is a balance. As i said, the good news is sort of a burgeoning set of consensus in the uk and the u. S. And other countries where we can work to gather. I think the key is, and this is where you are incredible allies to educate and help the policymakers understand the technology and we can talk together about the risks and the use cases we should be concerned about. Of those two use cases i mentioned, one medical really is my primary physician and you should watch mr. And mrs. Smith if you havent already. With the impact of the Public Policy decisions on that business, i will ask you as a Business Leader with a seat at the table about the Business Decisions at amazon. This will be a helpful tip for all of us. How do you make the decision as you travel around the world talking to policymakers, how do you make the connection with what amazon is doing to benefit customers and the decision you are contemplating making and what it will do to deploy the service. How do you do that. Nobody likes abstractions and some of these are hypothetical will abstractions and you are trying to tell policymakers that it will impact constituent access to this great Tech Knowledge he. How do you make the case . You have to come up with real use cases. I would give you an example i c didnt expect to talk about today but it is pretty powerful. When ukraine was first. Invaded, we were able to work with the ukraine government to essentially copy their government records and their real estate records and get them out of the country on physical memory devices and upload them to the cloud to give them ongoing access to their own government records on the cloud weeks before the facility was bombed. So, under certain versions of what we call the eu cloud scheme or ucs , there are versions of that that wouldve prohibited companies that are not strictly owned by entities from even carrying government workloads because of what we would say are more protections than reasons. When i was able to tell many policymakers is that if this version of the law is passed, we would not be allowed to. Thats what you break when you look at legislation like this and you consider a solution that you no may help. That may go over one way in france and it goes other es another way in finland which has a border with russia. You need to find the real world examples and tackle through them. That ucs you are talking about is a priority and the idea that the security of a Cloud Service should be determined by the geographic location of the Corporate Headquarters of the provider does not make sense. We are all nato allies and we share the most sensitive geopolitical and military data you can have. Its a little crazy to have legislators in one country or the other rail about the insecurity of data if its not owned by the headquarter company. Not a good measure or a good proposal. Looking ahead five weeks or six weeks into 2024, how is the rest of the year looking for you . Whats on the roadmap quitted . Any moon shots and i no thats not hypothetical, necessarily. What is on the roadmap for 2024 . We are encouraged by 2023. 2022 was challenging for our business and for every business for a couple of years there. We feel like we are sort of addressing the cost structure and the direction of our business. We have done things like regionalized our Logistics Network so we can deliver to customers with products closer to them. They get to to them faster, cheaper, and more sustainably and that work is still underway and that is exciting. When asked the question about what opportunity is left at amazon by people at amazon, look, post pandemic, even, the percentage of Online Shopping and retail is still less than 20 . It is going to rise over time and the percentage of the earths computing capacity and Computing Resources with only 5 or 7 in the cloud. With just those businesses, t there is potential to continue growing with a high ceiling on how many more customers we can serve. When you translate that to the storage business, there is grocery we are investing in and pharmacy is just starting their journey and it is exciting. When you get out of those more established businesses, you look at things like our project to launch 3200 low earth orbit satellites so that we can provide a worldwide broadband service. Especially focused on Rural Communities that do not have access to broadband. We are excited about that and we had our prototype test in october where we sent up two satellites and they worked better than anybody even expected. All of the tests were phenomenal and the first order was placed using those two satellites. That is very exciting and we are going to go into production on those satellites in the first half of 24. We will be doing a lot of launches over the next 20 years. We have a Company Called zukes. They are pioneering a Autonomous Vehicle to be used in cities. We have only scratched the surface with one medical and there is a lot of innovation we can do in the healthcare space with one medical. As usual at amazon there is a lot of seeds and a lot of investments. I have never been more optimistic about the future. Thats great and the last question in the 30 seconds we have together. What is industry need from iti as we address these changes . First of all, i think iti because what you provide is another voice working closely with policymakers and with communities that helps to explain the educational process. What technology does and how we think about it and how we can regulate it without inhibiting innovation. That is a hugely important part of making progress and you are hugely important to us and we want to thank you for that. We appreciate your partnership and for being with us on stage today. Thank you. Thank you. , plus. Earlier today, the health and Human Services secretary testified on the presents 2025 budget. Watch the Senate Finance hearing on cspan or at cspan. Org. Your unfiltered view of government funded by these Television Companies and more, including cox. You barre syndrome is extremely rare. The friends dont have to be. 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