Marking the 25th anniversary of the explosion outside host the washington journal and our partners spending the next hour back at the event from 25 years ago. Joining us as the executive director. Of 1995, from april these words by president bill clinton. His first comments about the bombing. [video clip] citye bombing in oklahoma was an attack on innocent children and defenseless citizens. Andas an act of cowardice it was evil. States will not tolerate it. I will not allow the people of this country to be intimidated by evil cowards. With our team, which we assembled to deal with this bombing, and i have determined to take the following steps to ensure the strongest response to this situation. First, i have deployed a Crisis Management team under the leadership of the fbi working with the department of justice, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms, military and local authorities. We are sending the finest to solve these murders. Second, i have declared an emergency in Oklahoma City and at my direction, the director of the federal Emergency Management agency, is now on his way there to make sure we do everything we can to help the people of oklahoma deal the tragedy. Third, we are taking every precaution to reassure and protect people who work in, or live near, other federal facilities. Let there be no room for doubt the people who did this. Justice will be certain and severe. These people are killers and must be treated like killers. Finally, i ask all americans tonight to praise. Pray. Pray for the people who have lost their lives. Pray for the families of the wounded. Pray for the people of Oklahoma City. May gods grace be with them. Meanwhile, we will be about our really dating back to 1992 with ruby ridge and the siege in waco. Just over an hour later, he was Florence Rogers was the ceo of a Credit Union House inside the building. Here is what she remembers. [video clip] i turned around in my chair and reared back with him ready to discuss the next item i mentioned when the bomb went off. It was it had to be longer, but it was just like second. All the girls in the office with thoughtpeared and i they had left me alone. Where arehollering you guys, where are you guys . The realization set in somewhat and i realized i dont know where they are. They have gone. When they, i found out bomb went up and everything started coming down, there were federal floors up above us that covid19 is why we do not have a live ceremony. Bombing he pulled over Timothy Mcveigh for Traffic Violation only to arrest him. Here he tells the story. [video clip] he was headed to Oklahoma City based on highway dispatcher call for all available troopers. It got discontinued. He was 62 miles north of Oklahoma City and he turned around in the media in the median. As he started to head back north he is passed by this yellow mercury marquis that is missing its rear license plate. So he polls that car over and the driver gets out of the car and they order him to stay by the door of his car. Theso he gets out, tells guy to back up toward him and as mcveigh is acting toward him, he notices mcveigh has a bulge under his left jacket and he reaches out. He grabs it. They said, its a gun and is loaded and he has his gun to his head and says, so is mine. He relieved mcveigh of his gun, which was loaded with those rounds that can shoot through an armored rest. Andso, once he had that gun a knife that mcveigh had hidden on his person, he took him into custody and took him to the noble county jail in perry, oklahoma. And so our investigator asked what happened to him . And he said, i dont know. He may still be in custody, he may not. So one of our investigators contacted sheriff jerry cook and talk to him and he said, mcveigh is in custody, but hes got to be released within probably an hour. So, we put a federal hold on him and at that point, myself and several other agents got into a mcveigh about an hour after the bombing and oh city. Peopleth toll, 119 including children. 86 vehicles were burned or destroyed. Days afteron was in fact, four the bombing he traveled to Oklahoma City and have these remarks. [video clip] president clinton yesterday, hillary and i had the privilege of speaking of children of other children likeees, those who were lost and one little girl said something we will never forget. She said, we should all plant a tree in memory of the children. So, this morning, before we got on the plane to come here at the white house, we planted that tree in honor of the children of oklahoma. [applause] it was a dogwood, with its wonderful spring flower and its deep, enduring group. It embodies the lesson of the psalms, to provide for a good person is like a tree whose leaf has not withered. My fellow americans, a tree takes a long time to grow and wounds take a long time to heal, but we must begin. Those who are lost now belong to god. Them. Y we will be with until that happens, there legacy must be our lives. Thank you all. God bless you. [applause] they figured out how to move on and push on and walk this journey with us. I am grateful to all of them. Host you mentioned the memorial and six years later was 9 11. Joining us on the phone is alice who is the current president and executive officer of the september 11 museum. Welcome to the program. Caller thank you so much and welcome to both of you. Guest hello. Caller such a deep connection between new york city and Oklahoma City. It seems like a century ago when carrie and members of her staff came and we met at Madison Square garden for a game between the New York Knicks and the oklahoma thunder in support of all First Responders. It was First Responder night and i was privileged to be there wi th kari. I just want to say my heart is with you today and your community. Our First Responder community is thinking of you. For the newrateful First Responders in this moment of crisis with our health care workers, food service workers, courage andd the selflessness and the kindness you talked about. We are thinking of that aspect about what happened a quartercentury ago. We remember all the innocent lives that were taken in such a senseless and brutal way. We are also thinking about the courage of those who came to and now. Hen host alice, thank you. Kari, your response . Guest thank you, alice. Opportunity, and good fortune, to help folks in new pulsewashington, d. C. , nightclub. Things we learned that could help them. Went through this journey, the memorial was the last bill. Built. We are going to teach that story to others. We have a special bond with new york. Arrivedm when we first hours after the bombing and some of those men rushed into those buildings and died. It was very powerful to meet some of their young sons who would have been young kids and teenagers when their dads were killed and now, when we went to new york city to share the memorial thunder uniforms and watch and celebrate the rescue workers, it was remarkable. Very important thing to realize what role the rescue workers, restaurant workers, grocery workers play. They have been a critical role. There was something in the Convention Center at the time of the bombing and they turned the trade show into a restaurant. Today, our hearts are with those folks just trying to survive and get through this pandemic. I saw some of those folks last night on the way home and thanked them for their work. Just sticking it out with this and i hope we can, as a country, get through this and get back to work and celebrate what we have done as a country. Its different but there are similarities to what happened a quartercentury ago. Host david is joining us from oklahoma. Good morning. Caller good morning. [indiscernible] they had his getaway car but i cannot understand why he would not have a tag on that car. Dont make sense. Host thank you, david. Guest some people think he never went to put the tag on. Ideas of 100 different where the tag might be. Logo, looking back and thinking forward, we have looked back at what happened 25 years ago but looking forward, what is your message . Guest our message is to teach hope, courage, resilience and that coming together is better than working alone. It has been ironic as we have gone the last five weeks as a staff working remotely, getting on zoom calls every day, we have been challenged with pushing ourselves to work together. That is a lesson we teach here working together through the hardest. We have a project called better conversations. It is a deck of cards that pushes you to sit around the table with your friends or family and have a better conversation, to work through differences, to come together and work to teach senselessness of violence. While you and i may disagree, we both have the right to have an opinion and we both should respect each others opinion. That is a very important lesson and to understand science played a huge role in this story. We have a stem lab which teaches the forensics and structuring and lessons of how those things played a part in the rescue and recovery. It all goes back to remembering those who were killed, those who survived, and those who are changed. We could talk about tim mcveigh all day long but he will never be as important as the 168. Our philosophy is you cannot teach about him or his antics without remembering those who were killed. That is a sad philosophy we take to the core and we want you to understand because of his actions, he tried to destroy families and survivors and a city and he did not win. That is the message we have to keep teaching. Host looking back, thinking forward is available inside the Memorial Museum . Website. Is and on our it is a great book our chairman put together. Stakeholders to contribute to their memories, their reflections and it is a book of how we got to where we are today and where we go next. Host kari watkins is the executive director of the National Oklahoma museum. Joining us on the 25 anniversary that took place in the city. On the morning of april 19, 1995, a massive truck bomb floated in Oklahoma City outside the federal building, killing 168 people. The Oklahoma CityNational Memorial and museum created this video to commemorate the 25 anniversary with remarks by past and present federal, state, local officials and a reading of the 168 names of those killed. The coronavirus pandemic forced the cancellation of the live commemorative ceremony