Get informed straight from the source on cspan. Unfiltered, unbiased, word for word. From the Nations Capital to wherever you are. Because the opinion that matters most is your own. This is what democracy looks like. Cspan, powered by cable. ■j republican and Democratic Senators spoke at a recent Communications Technology policy topics include broadband diploma, and the regulation of Artificial Intelligence focusing of legislation to curb misinformation that is spread through [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] are right. If on . If i get everyones attention, please. If we get everyone come back in, take a seat. We want, we want to welcome great champion for our broad bands, for competition who served on committees of significant importance to our industry, on both on the technology, internet, all of the infrastructure. She serves on tom Committee Education . Agriculture. Its like a quiz. Is the chair of the Senate Broadband caucus and the senate rules committee. How could i forget . But she is you know an important voice and the most important debates facing our country and our industry, and so were very thankful that she has come today to give a keynote and to talk about the issues of most importan t this room. So with no further ado, senator amy klobuchar, thank you for coming. [applause] okay. Well, thank you, everyone and its wonderful to be here and get off the field for a little bit, i will say. Theres a lot going on as you know we are not in a shutdown, or i might not be able to be here. We also have been working on the budget somewhat apropos of our topic at hand of competition. Been working to try to make sure that the antitrust division of justice, which is not the topic of my talk today, gets funded as we believe senator grassley and i believe it would be with the merger of the change th like 88eight vote. If you only get that for volleyball resolutions of their, and so weve been working about some technical language thats in there here it all sounds really small ball but its really a ball. And so we have been trying to get that changed and thats been occupying my mind but now i get to come and see you and kind of go out for the forest for the trees and talk a little bork the doing and what needs to be done to expand and to make sure that we have strong competition in america. And want to thank chip and angie for inviting me, and i know theres Plains Communications and metronet here. Where are you guys . Summer. There. Of course minnesotas in the back. Humble humble. O÷ thank you so much. I did notice they were the audience members that were nodding their head when i started out, thank you. So just so some of you know, my street cred still be here is i started out at a law firm. I was actually in the private sector for 14 years. Thats part of why i really car. And one of my first big clients was mci. Actually changed law firms to keep representing them when there was a conflict. And i loved doing their work. Back then they were a really scrappy company. The federal law was in the midst of getting past and we were basically taking on the bell monopolies at the time to get ■ market. The case had been done but it was a time where they were actually doing the work. And i was loved somef hearings e maybe a little monday sometimes but i remember i told the story about when Alexander Graham bell, the fst were decent as we all know when we got the telephone was come here, watson, i need you. Right . That was a fuzzy set on the telephone. At the hearings i note that in the wild west world of mci when they were getting ready to relate the first communication between st. Louis and chicago, the investor erwin hirsch memorialized that great moment not exactly with Connie Watson i need you, but these words, ill be damned. It actually works. [laughing] and i know that many other companies and people you work with might feel the same way when new discoveries are made, when new innovations are made but the really drove me, that work;] with mci which i loved ad started doing work for them all over the region before i became a prosecutor. It really, it drove me to be big believer in competition policy because i saw what happened when i got in the market. I also represent macaca medications by the way and has a blue see how that really spawned cell phone market, right . Before when they with the big in wall street and how it brought down longdistance charges in a big way. Thats what you wonder why kick and obsessedh of competition inn the fields and we broadband people can access them, it is really driven from that rience and from seeing what it means when we have actual competition. Im also a big believer in capitalism. I believe one of the ways you do that is, i make sure your guided thereby enforcement of our competition laws. It one of grandfathers of capitalism who said yes, beware, i want to get the words right here, beware the unbridled por of monopolies. And we got remember that as a go forward. I actually wrote a book on all of this. It was called theremember, durie president ial campaign. My friend pete buttigieg, we truly are friends, we go back and forth a little bit in the tuesday i may as will commemorate that moment, one of the more amusing things is when we got done with the campaign pete wrote a New York Times bestselling book called trust, not to be outdone wunderlich i came up with my own two weeks ot book, antitrust. [laughing] that is actually true story. I want to talk about first have been great partners in effort to close the Digital Divide and bring fast, affordable, reliable and competitive highspeed Internet Access to every household and mobile phone in america. Yoor digital economy, and we all know that you cant participate in 2024 in the marketplace if you cant get online. Its about education. Its about healthcare. I visit all 87 counties in minnesota every year, some counties are so small i knowerye county, but it also does a lot of rural hospitals including just about last month winners of four hockey days, all another store in war road, minnesota come just enough theres never been a gold medal mens hockey team in the olympics without a player from not just minnesota, from account of 1500 people were road minnesota. And went to some hospitals near their and t use of technology, if they are very innovative is phenomenal because they have realized a lot of their seniors some of this came out of theterf accessing from home now that youve learned to use it, or coming into more likely into the they set it up. Because the primary doctor there, thats clinic, its clinics attached to the hospital and then they get a doctor from mail or someone else who talks them through whats going on. This is just an increasing use of technolog some of the last mile areas i would say that must have highspeed internet. And you see this with Mental Health care. The wazoo. All of the innovation going on that is a must for these areas for not going to be able to have a doctor with every specialty haveental health provider. Its a game changer but its not going to exist with the head if they dont have highspeed. I remember several hearings, i used examples of why we need highspeed to every household. My colleagues i always use this example, i commit the mom of a High School Kid who had to do all of his College Exams in a liquor store parking lot. Its a true story, right . I dont know if you want to keep talk about that kid going in the liquor store. Unlike know, that was the only place that had highspeed. Because i dont think of a lot of rural areas. These are true stories of what goes on. The doctors who sit in the mcdonalds parking lot reading xrays. So that was why i was such a big believer in the bipartisan infrastructure law. I do want to thank my i worked on the broadband part because of the debt deal with clyburn but the group the work on, i mentioned that today announced today shes not running again and i just want to say thank you to her for her work on that agr negotiating including this latest agreement where i worked extensively with her trying to help my afghan refugees, the 80,000 people who are here that are interpreters the worked with our troops that are still in limbo, and she worked really hard to include that in the border bill. It got included and then unfortunately that part of it we will see another day i hope because really important part but its just an example of the work she ds so the bipartisan infrastructure law you know, it makes sense to me that we go those extraive se that maybe 20 dont have highspeed. I look at it having visited iceland went and saw that they the best highspeed internet next to spewing volcanoes, maybe just maybe we can get it on the Canadian Border where theres a. So those are some of the things that really motivated me to get involved in this. You know the investment we see s the country, and also making it more affordable that program is already empowered over 20 million american households to get online. Including 218,000 in my state, but whos counting . Other things that ive on and believe in when it comes to fair competition, Net Neutrality. Since the communication act was enacted in 1934 congress always intended for the fcc to have the authority to ensure americans have reliable and stateoftheart communication service. As you know way back that meant telephone. W it meansro for years Net Neutrality divided the framework to just do just that. It held large internet providers accountable for providing the connection consumers expect while promoting investments in nextgeneration broadband networks. Reason one of the reasons the internet became one of the Great AmericanSuccess Stories transforming not only how we communicate also the Way Companies do business, how consumers buy goods and how we educate our kids. Unfortunately, from my perspective, it was repealed in 2018. And i continue to believe we are going to have to focus in that area and make sure that everyony is going to be able to access the internet on affordable basis, spatial with ai coming along. Ill get to that in a moment. Thes just a reason we want to make sure it continues to be accessible. Im glad this last year the fcc took the first steps toward restoring Net Neutrality, andi look forward to working with the commission along with Business Leaders from across the Telecom Sector to make sure we have a fair and open internet. Next up, privacy. I have always found that to be one o t more ironic things. I dont think you thought i would say that, in the lobbying world of washington, d. C. In that w io the senate no one really wanted to have a federal privacy law but companies were lobbying against it. Its kind of anf giving a littlt the beginning and maybe thats a good way to be because it was all this lobbying against it and then you know what happens, right . We see it happen and then the states start having to fill in the void and so then one state think something is okay, thatsg you hate, no, increasing of a patchwork of laws. Sonata number of the same companies are saying we need a im still hopeful, im onh i senator cantwell ill. Theres a number of other proposals way back. I had a proposal with senator kennedy on these lines lit hope we are able to reach some kind of agreement so that we have a federal5u privacy law lie so many other countries have. It would just make it a lot easier for everyone other things along these lines that i just hopeful we can m on, very soon is kids safety on the internet. You know we had that rather famous hearing recently, and i am myself im sort of done with the throwing the popcorn at people and i think we need to cactually legislate and get something done. I think one of the issues thats so challenging for families with the internet right now is yes, whats on it on the p kids can , and the need to do everything we can to help those parents be parents. Im glad were going to empower them with better tools and the like but i do get sometimes just relying on it as the postage is trying to get the stuff off of their and monitor better through technology would be better. One mom told me she knows she has three kids and everyut time she tries to get one thing on one platform, then another thing, the kid gets around it kids try to teach the younger kids what to do and she just gets fined she said its just reminder like theres a a bigk in front of her and its overflowing all the time and teachers out there with a mop try to clean it up, those were her words, not mine. And i thinke just have to remember that as we look at how can we put in some laws that are actually going to work so that these kids dont get exposed to really dangerous content. Its one of the reasons im working on safe the revenge issue in some of the issues with dr. Singh where kids think their life is over because some has tricked them into sending a naked picture. Weve had 15 suicides according to the fbi of kids just this year, and that we just need come this is becoming more and more fentanyl laced pills, 30 e to fentanyl, we will have to do something on this kids front in addition to the privacy law and to be go into somewhat other stuff, go to talk about today on competition. At all of this, just think putting our heads in the sand because the privacy stuff is probably a great example of that, if you wait so long and you do nothing, and thats whatd heinrich and rounds are trying to move on a eye. Not just a cohesive fedal policy. Thats why on ai i think we did some rules of the road. So im one of the f senators that attended nearly every session, i had a near perfect attendance record of the meetings that they had oni. My background, the work ive done with tact and appreciated that a number of the companies have come forward said we want to have some rules of the road in place when it comes to ai. And as you know we had been working with them ass ■l consumer groups, nonprofit groups and the like to try to get those agreements. First andtiwfl foremost, senatr thune and i, neighbors in minnesota and south dakota, hes a little taller than me, have introduced kind of a bill for nonsecurity ai, and and that would be setting standards for the federal government when it comes to number of companies and groups have endorsed this bill. We kind of divine nonsecurity topics into two areas. One is is hh impact, things that could be more dangerous like critical infrastructure, identification, identification for example, if a power grid is using ai to improve efficiency we need to make sure theystems undergo rigorous testing. So put some higher standard on some of those uses of ai. And then a second group is ones may be health care, education when we task mr. Pak which is widely believed to be the one that could dod with nist dash instead of expecting agencies will go off on their own p little scary. So the idea that nist would be a coordinating force and you work at nist. I an agency. To be able to put those standards up first. Other things. Voice scams primarily concern at protecting peoples identities and voices in general. I was just meeting with our veterans groups on this, and actually my state director at home her son is in the marines and at the time they got this call he w deployed and they did nowhere. It were not supposed to nowhere, and they get this call, her husband who is a recently retired reporter, and gets as voice. Its been scraped off the internet and says dad, dad, im in trouble, i need your help, need your help. It was someone that was more naive than the somewhat cynical reporter, i think it mightve fallen for it but he immediately starts saying you . How can you be calling the . And then hung up. And so that is just one example and a talamilies that are seen this so the scraped his voice off the internet and were probably trying to suck the pair into sending money, which is what■l weve seen in a lot of places. So senator collins and i have teamed up to call the ftc and the fcc to raise awareness and prevent ai voice calling scans. I think see more of this last thing iveeen really focusing my work on ai and all of these things i hope will be included in this base framework of yet, you see them going to Start Talking about democracy [laughing] and okay, there we go, thank you, russia. Thats nice. [laughing] okay. So this is going to be like hair on fire problem if we dont do something about it. I believe fcc is going to try to use with the camp of their laws, and they have traditionally been pretty dysfunctional. They■ things on a bipartisan basis lately with some of the newer people we put on. I chair■ the rules committee, is inner jurisdiction. So im hopeful they will step up in some way. You will receive fcc and others, but the best thing would be as if we put in some clear roles in law when it comes to our election. And what weve seen so far is disturbing. New hampshire primary in january, fake robocalls using the president s voice to tell people not to vote. We now know that came out of a democratic campaign, although the candidate was not aware. Wont say who it is. They hired a magician and he talked, i dont know. But that is a very kind of lukewarm little example, but just put it out where theres actuals trying to do this in a big way. And you could literally trick after voter after voter into thinking it is your own candidate last year, one republican president ial candidate released false ai generated images of former President Trump hugging dr. Fauci. Viral video of what appears to be my colleague Elizabeth Warren where she basically says republicans shouldnt be allowed to vote. It wasnt her but a lot of people thought it was. This is not ai but if you dont be, just three weeks ago, or two weeks ago if you solve the horrific shooting, the murder of the two Police Officers i minnesota, they were killed and they rescued seven kids. Think of the kids out of the house and then they shot the paramedic that went in, rn into rescue them was doing cpr was also killed. Well, a few days after that, photo goes out oit was a true pe at a rally, at a political rally Keith Ellison was in the photo. We actually have the picture which is not going to be normal when these things happen. And someone, and actually think it is for and interest based on the tax ive had on my advocacy on strong advocacy on ukraine, but they put defund the police sign■qs t there. I was strongly against defund the police. I read the bill for cops funding and the senate the cops bill. But that thing went viral and finally had to call x and facebook and actually we could show the actual photo which is most people end up with altered cotton, false content. There were some articles written and it basically went away. That using ai, of the pure evil of what we are going to come out of this when it comes to democracy. So that is why two bills that i delayed because of my role with the rules committee. The first is to go after the really■■ bad stuff, the deepfake we call it. That bill i have with josh it has exceptions for things like satire. Weve had it reviewed by democratic and republican lawyers, Susan Collins i iw your face over there. Susan collins is on the bill as well as many, many, supported by democrats. Rickets is on the bill. People realize people can mess around with this on both sides if we dont have some clear rules in place. The other bill, its Yvette Clarke spill. Also worked on a bipartisan one right now with some other that is a labeling bill, right . Not like every little thing you use ai four, which is a problem. We had a hearing on and i kind of thought yout to like you change the color a little event produced by ai. Its going to make it meaningless as a label. We are■] trying to capture that middle ground for things that are significant but they are not the deepfakes to put the labeling on it. That is another bill thatil and similar that clark has done a lot of work in the house. Just wanted to let you know i dont mean a bigger one t on your mind to think it will become just a huge aspirate with a huge effing deal if we do not get ahead of it. And get something books that which will enable the platform to say no, were taking this down because. No, this because, because as you know im not telling you a secret in the area politics, if they start going off and just making up thetuff they may have to do if they wont have choice, its much better if it is submitted in legislation of what the rules of the be. So those are some of things that im working on right now, but im really excited in my own state just of■ the expansion of highspeed. We have already seen what that means for people. Im a big believer that if you grew up in rural able to live il minnesota. I love our small towns, and thats that can happen if you dont have access to highspeed of you on that area of work, i want to thank you. For those of you in the kind of tech provider side, thank you for all the great innovations that you have given us. And im just hopeful we are going to be able to come up with some rules of the road that actually work when it comes to the childrens issues that i mentioned, privacy, and when it comes to competition policy or news organizations. Theres just a lot of the things that in sitting there waiting for action, and i just think its time to kind of find some kind of compromise so we can move ahead, and hopefully ai will go out t first because we have to do that immediately and can be a model for us getting ahead of things instead of simply saying oh,eve gone years now, companies are no longer little startups in a garage, like every medical Device Company in minnesota starts in a garage. Andng to do . We dont have any rules in place. It just doesnt seem like a good way to run a railroad. Someone who strongly believes in competition and capitalism, i want it to thrive in one way it thrives as if we have rules so people feel good about the businesses that they work with and you dont get ripped off and they dont have bad stuff happen and the kids dont get addicted to fentanyl. I could could go on and o just o better. I wrote a book actually, ill end with this, in the last year that was maybe not so aptly called the joy of politics. Just so suitable for our time. Actually cam■ae out on the same, it was announced the same day that bernies book was announced in my book is called the joy of politics and bernies book angrt capitalism. True story. So this was at the end of not this year the end of last year, and so i was desperately try gel i i just told you about done back then. Lindsey graham was my lead authornd its got you know, ricker, all these people on it, its a big, big deal to the military to get this done. Madder and madder and getting this way and obstacle that way. Ernie cant come up to me on the floor and going, wheres the [laughing] so i hope i answered some of this for you today. There is a joy in supporting the great work that you do. There is joy in trying to find Common Ground because courage is a longer just stand in an emptyi Senate Chamber and scream at people. Courage is whether or not you willing to stand next the people you dont always agree with for the betterment of this country. I hope you take those words and that joy with you, and im going to go back to that fund house right now. Thank you, everyone. [applause] there is love and joy and hope still in congress. We are thankful for senator klobuchar, our work, her commitment to competition and were very thankful that she came to share all other alh us today. Our next speaker is going to be another tremendouer and leader, congresswoman doris matsui. I dont know if shes here here she is. Now, we gng to set up our chairs, doors, and then we will have the conversation. [inaudible [inaudible conversations] could i have everyones attentn . Today, i set out on a Marathon Race to make tremendous speakers and panels, and i want to thank you for, one, your work in congress, two, for this is the second year in a row that y right. And more importantly for all your good work in the energy, on the energy and Commerce Committee as the Ranking Member ofheubco that has most of the jurisdiction over all of our Member Companies your thoughtful leadership, your good relationships across the aisle and this is kind of a critical time where thexh Single Network from copper to fiber, wireless satellites, fixed wireless new technologies come into the marketplace. Our technology andanies have jue commercial introduction of is happening and you ares. In the midst of everything. Id like to ask you to start, at leader on spectrum policy, the wireless deployments over all the you have a great staffer in flynn tell me what you think about the spectrum ntia has done but more important the congressional efforts to give Auction Authority to the fcc . Well, thank you very much, skip. U feel that you were one of the reasons why i like to come here. You know, hes really wonderful as you all know. I remember you in the house pick you were always somebody who was easy to work with. And in technology basically its political. Many times it might be regional but on its not political to a degree. Ably much more easily thn other committees might. But i must say that this is an interesting time. But we say that about almost any sector now. Because we are at a moment in time when things have so drastically changed. I think particularly since we all experienced the horrible pandemic. People started thinking a little bit differently, and young people in particular are looking at the things that we do all the ways. In much more different and as you know they are far more advanced than we are. They understand these things much more they pick up these devices and they know what to do. They exploit. Sometimes the export much more than we want them to explore and but i must say that it is a thrilling time, too. I dont know whether i can bring joy as senator klobuchar says, but i really feel that this particular area of technology as it impacts everything in our lives is is such an interesting place to be. Theres nothing that technology does not impact. I think that is thrilling but also believe it is really challenging, too. In many days try to look at various things that might impact various sectors and he it geo be overwhelming. But we have to be engaged. The world is moving sockly. I know were talking spectrum. Most people used to think what spectrum . Whats spectrum . But now more people know what sp do with it. Obviously we dont like the fact that the Spectrum Authority has lapsed. And its been almost a year and we do have to do something about it. It affects innovation. It affects our Global Leadership. It affects everything we tried to do. Its very fundamental. And i have to that whats happened with, i have hope though, because with a National Spectrum strategy and also the president memorandum we have a way to actually start doing things. And because ive always said that when it comes to spectrum governments, the United States has to speak wh one voice, particularly today. We dont need to have a whole cacophony of different voices. And i believe thats what the president memorandum has done. I mean, whats trying to virtually tied to bring, and power ntia to really bring the federal agencies together, to really look at what we do with the spectrum we have available to maximize its use. Its very limited. And then with the what might be available there and really looking at what might be really, really ready for some sort ofight . So with the two of them i think we have a lot of opportunity to move forward. I like the fact that we are n bg something that is so important to all of us that we are aiming our way into it right now. The implementation soon, this month, at least some kind of strategy or plan moving forward which will really help us particularly as we move forward. So were looking at that as being a very positive. And obviously we are hopwe can o ensure that, in particular, we get off the dime on some of these things, the lower three and the chairman and ive written both dod and ntia to say lets figure out where you are. Would like to be engaged as much as possible. This is a time tt have to decide that we have to move forward. Anything we can do to have that conversation we areab that. And i said that in a very hopeful manner because it took some time to get to this place. So now we kind of our focus on one needs to done, particularly with those two agencies. E eed on joy, and you brought in the first minutes hope. To the session. Reality . One of the important aspects of the spectrum auction it couls solve other problems, not only our Global Leadership and 5g, 5g and beyond wireless deploenouldr important critical programs like the acp. Sure. Or rip and r to add on the acp and rip and replace . Well, you know, those i have not had some people come up to me, just in the general constituency at home, then mike, the acp. It has reached the people that nnectivity. It is probably the most important connectivity weve had in history, reaching 23 million households, just an awful lot. In areas particularly rural areas which it had much difficulty. And when you think about what happened during the pandemic and the lack of connectivity, people embrace this. You can have access but if y afu dont get to the right place, people dont get it at all. So now it is so important to make surha the funding that we, in april, so were looking at this as something that is an emergency p funding for this. I think its critical that we are doing this now, because is, you know, many times we do things in congress where people may not be aware of what weve done, right . Thats what happens a lot of t effects of it right away. With acp they know. I really feel that we owe that to our constituents to get this done. To make it more sustainable but at this moment in time lets at least try to makeha continues. I think we have something in a bill where it goes to the end of the year, thats not enough but on the other hand, lets try to ge i am a member of the usf group of us. We are trying to look to see how we can make a usf better but also to find a way to make acp or systema president having to wait all the time for appropriations. So were doing that and we hope to come up with something, but you know how it is for that. Thats a huge deal so it will ime. So as we work on that we have to make sure that the funding doesnt lapse for acp. There are so many people committed to this. Its really remarkable, and we want to make sure that theres something that when the constituents really feel it and ask for it, we have to respond. And were really ready to try to fight for this. ■ earlier today senator lujan game speed is my partner in a lot of this. Yes. He also enjoyedle and mischief together. But he said that senator welch and fans have a package that would come believes that well get to the senate. The question is can it get to the house . Can we find a vehicle in the next few weeks as we have the appropriation and different funding bills so that the hope can be actual and realize . I think a you know its more challenging in the house. But having said that though, a lot of this acp funding has been, well, lets face it. It doesnt matter whether youre a red state or a blue state. Everybody loves us here. Most in my district has always been urban. It is still mostly urban. But now inave a huge rural area of large territory not too many people but wonderful small farmers, big phrmas, towns, hamlets and things like that where i talk with them and listen here they really need this connectivity andy knowhat it can do for them in their personal lives, in the business lives. Its a sense for the young people they can find opportunits and be able to connect in ways they never could connect before. And so im working with my rural colles. It is so important. Ive always felt, i have an urban area, i should say mostly urban, but urban areas and rural areas have to Work Together pick because i have have in urbs many unserved, event in the thee not serve at all. We all have a reason to be engaged in this, and i really feel particularly when you think about it, it is really bipartisan, nonpartisan because many of the senators and governors o rur areas, rural states are in all favor of this. So i think we are going to make sure that this becomes louder and louder. As you know sometimes you have to many, many voices here and just like the person who came up to me at a local concert, he waa ticket. He was a senior, and he came up to me and said, cgresswoman what do you do with acp . I thought we, he knows about acp. But then there areth talking to her about the acp . We need that funding. Listen company, when i have people like that come up to me at a concert, its got o im usn to them, too. You need to speak. You need to be able to talk to people in a sense, you of smalltown newspapers, you can talk. Lets blow this up in a sense so people understand exactly what know, one part of the acp than most people dont realize, are our like sonic in San Francisco that is rated as the best isp with the highest speeds, is■s a competite fiber to the home and just tremendous story of one of our Member Companies, but acp is foo deploy new networks. Because they can create a Business Model and the beverywd it, and acp allows for the big Business Plan and financing to deploy to all neighborhoods in all parts of the city or town. Thats right. And sometimes people forget that very important component, and thats true whether its in rural mississippi or in urban San Francisco. It really helps or sacramentif e networks. It does create new businesses and its a huge economic develop aspect of that. I realize we can emphasize the other side of it at that side of it is really important, too. Thats why we get so much support. Now weve got any sense to make sure everybody understands it like you were saying, too. So that might be something we talk about even more now. Th area where youve really been a champion and helped lead is on 12eding at thh is look at whether we can have highpowered to weigh fixed. Theres another company from california thats a a Great Success story called toronto that is really one of the examples of how much improvement we have in fixed Wireless Technologies that minimize interference that maxize propagation capacity and speeds, and we are seeing rapid adoption of fixed wireless broadband aroundhe coury. Sure. And as we have a huge infusion of historic funding, if we can also have a new spectrumd behind the band, and 12 is a stat opt does and i been talking about this even for the nprm. Because he gets an opportunity because this limited spectrum, we know that. ■v this is another way of opening this up. I really feel we have to look at everything. And in essence we are a very Creative Society we have a lot of innovators. People something about how can do this thing better, and where do we have to find n im all in at this because we just really need to do it. I have written to the chairman rosenworcel to make sure l try to push this out and really think about it even much more intentionally. I know some of the 12 gigahertz people have mad agreement with i guess the Cherokee Nation to figure out if they can do this, which i thik is really critical because theyn this thing and i think would be something that would demonstrate how good this could be. Im hoping thats just one example as we move forward. Well, we thank you for your leadership on that. It means a lot to our Member Companies as we been running the coalition. Member how many years we have been making the case. Weekly that the record is complete, the time is now. You have ow lujan, senator blackburn and you calling for the fcc to act now and quickly pick so we appreciate the bipartisan, bicameral support of getting 12 approved for to weigh fixed. We do think the timing is essential because it coincides with the federal funding with the deed and if we can in the market and private and public funding, it can do a lot of good. No, its huge. Closing the Digital Divide. We have to grab the moment. We have funding opportunities now thatver going to have. We need to take advantage of that and all the great thinkers are thinking about what we do here, and im excited about what we can do now. And we have to be all in on this. You know, weve got an i think e going to compel them to start working hard on these things because we have, when you think about it, you know, the young people of this world just know technology in a way that we kno, right . For five years ago. And its moving so quickly. We really have to explore all these avenues. ■ not oy to see what we can do to be innovative but also understand that privacy and security are part of this, too. Sot we have to do. But we have to do it all and we have to do it now. I think thats the right message. You know, this morning, and the other conversations weve had this morning ai is top we started and announced this morning a center for in Public Policy and responsibility. We have a num university, academic, industry, government leaders who will be on the advisory board. Anything that you would like to leave the audience on ai, best practices, Public Policy, tremendous benefit but also wanted to make sure we prevent as senator klobuchar said, some of the misuse and abuse at the things that could be damaging, both to our children and to our any words of advice to us as we get started . Well, you know, its interesting because i dont think anyone really thought about ai until chatgpt, right . That wasnt that long ago, and yet ai has been involved in our and we need it. But when we think about some of the damage that social media has come around, particularly archly, i think everybody sort of hesitates. Lets try to avoid all of that. But as difficult as we know, and i think we first of all have to look at what the harm could be and answered some guardrails, but also are ways that i can help, particularly i look at health care. Youook at the many scientists and researchers who are looking at certain diseases, and to try to look at the whole range of what is happening, and yet implement thing or using ai to see where the research is of our possibilities might happen, it is really remarkable, particularly now when we think about in this time we have so much going on and we are looking at how do we solve som far as h problems that we have in the world. You look at energy and you look at the way we use the Energy Things pipes and everything else, timing and all of this. Really, sector by sectr you can see where its been implemented. Its just that when we get to whether the fear is that whether our jobs will be taken, and once that gets into wha thinking about, all of a sudden it becomes the Human Element of what can we do to■z ensure as human beings we can control our own destiny in the way we live. And there ishat comes through, so theres that and then theres the fact that theres a practical element to all of this. I like to be involved in the way we lk at this in a way that is intentional and reasonable about how we can use ai. We need to have a conversation with a lot of the people, the american peoples parents what thimeans. I have a good friend whose daughter had been involved in social media and she was on all of these, chat things and she got very much influenced by the whole thing and she couldnt do anything about it, took her to the psychologists and had to talk to; ■e friends and he is at the point where anything that comes up, anything new, like with ai, hes constantly s got to stop it, youve got to stop it. Thats really not the answer, but i can understand the fear. So thats a o with. We dont want irrational fear get i the way, but we do need guardrails. We need to have understanding and teachers involved in this. We need to have people who actu other people to say, this is what we do with this and where it can go awry. The Human Element is really, real concerning to me and we have to figure out how to put it together in a way where it doesnt interfere with some of the good things that can happen with ai probably more of understanding about what other sectors are doing with it to help us with our lives and then try to bring in what we need to to protect ourselves and our children, too. Thats a long way of saying that were just at the beginning of this cant have fear overrun us. Weve also got to be very, very careful and we know there have to be guardrails here and we understand that part of it. As we kind of finish up, you know, our conversation. I think thats a good place to end. Okay. I think its wise counsel and a very thoughtful approach as we, you know, from the commercial internet that started 20 little over 25 years ago