Transcripts For CSPAN2 Campaign 20240704

Christina. I am thrilled to welcome you to the second event of the 2024 free residential debate series. We are live from new york city. I want to begin by thanking marie for another stunning rendition of our national anthem. And lift every voice and sing. More americans identify as independent than as eit. That is why we want to amplify more voices and choices to encourage discourse choices the voters actually have. Tonights debate will feature five independent candidates running in this years candidates were selected by the public through our voting up. They represent a variety of Party Affiliations and bring an array of positions to the table. We will laugh targeting questions on the topic the Mainstream Media avoids. Some questions were submitted by the public. At the conclusion of the event, we will host a poll on our website for you to decide the winner of the debate. The poll will be open for 72 hours to make sure to weigh in with your thoughts. Ing the freeandequal. She is a former correspondent from one america news network, caitlin sinclair. A familiar from last months excuse me. We also have from last months debate, jason palmer. Caitlin, what if you want to be involved in this event . I believe Younger Voters are increasingly looking for alternatives to classic rtain policies we have seen for some time now. In my opinion, you look at the most apathetic group outherethe. They are looking for a different perspective. I am excited to highlight this platform for all candidates. You for being here and for the youth. Jason, we are back with us. Thank you for your organization, together, which is cosponsoring tonights event. Is my pleasure to be here on behalf of the president ial campaign and a newly founded corporation i want to announce to all of you. It is called together and its goal is to increase Youth Participation in this years election and future months. I have firsthand the media and electoral challenges for independents annew candidates who have not been involved with Traditional Party for a long time. Citizens deserve m candidates tt decision at the polls. I was excited to participate in lastte and tonight. I may not agree with all of these candidates viewpoints but i welcome the opportunity to share their views and it is crucial for our american democracy. Great to have jason here tonight as an example of how the Free Equal Elections Foundation focuses on unity to bring about solutions. Lets introduce the participants in tonighs debate. From the Libertarian Party, we oliver. Also from the party for socialism and liberates him, have dr. Jill stein and jasmine sherman. We also have from the Libertarian Party, chase oliver. We look forward to a lively, respectful exchange of ideas. The format, each candidate will deliver a two minute opening statement. Then we will ask a series of response and a one minute rebuttal. Each candidate has four opportunities for rebuttal. We questions as a way to cover even more topics. The debate will conclude with a two minute closing statement from each candidate. The order of the candidates was determined by a random draw. We will begin starting with lauraease give us your introduction. When i said the system is rigged, you know that is true. Aryo ready to do something about it . I am. I am pissed off and im over it. The entire system is corrupte po unrig it. Our economy is rigged. Our government has stolen 34 6rbillion. It is reducing your standard of living in the form of inflation. You all feel it every day when you go to the store. The corruptg citizens. We need to end the regime of the corrupt irs and let people keep 100 of their paycheck. Only you have the power to unr ig the system. Or Health Care System is a total joke. My prices go up while the quality of care goes down. We all know it is a rigged system that needs to be turned upside down. Our criminal Justice System is also a total joke. 50year war on drugs that is a failure. We have to stop criminalizing people for victimless crimes and treat people with to get them the help they need. What you put in your body is your choice and the government should have no say in that whatsoever. I am trying to unrig the system in america because everyone is filling the pressure. S your Education System, your Health Care System, i just want to make americans feel better. The government has completely shammed the system. Go to my website and learn more about my policies, unrig8 the system and make it fair and have more integrity for america. Thank you. Thank you. Excuse me. [backgrounduting] thank you, security is taking care of that. We do not allow that in the room. Thank you so much for having us, free equal foundation. Necessary in the sham that is democracy in the United States. I am a workingclass secondgeneration immigrant, mother, organizer, educator and a proud socialist also a membery for socialism and liberation that has existed for the last 20 years and has been on the front struggle across different fronts of struggles. Everything from defending our rights to housing, our rights to health care, against Police Brutality. We are actively engaged all across the country■y organizing, educating and mobilizing workingclass people to end the dictatorship of the billionaires which is ultimately the root of our problem. The u. S. Does not lack resources. It does not lack the ability to provide housing, create jobs, provide Free Health Care and education for everyone in society. Instead we have a society that produces misery, creates 160 Million People living in or near poverty, produces 500,000 People Living in homelessnes we have a handful of billionaires and profitmakers that are benefiting from our misery and suffering. Billionaires and millionaires who profit from the endless war andthe problem. We cannot continue to think we can reform capitalism. It is urgent to get the billionaire class out of power. Our campaign is here to expose brutality and organize, mobilize for the society. Votesocialist2024. Com. It is great to see you again. We have been doing this for 12 years now that i have been participating in your process. In tribute much need a debate. I am enjoying hearing things we do not normally hear. The American Public is desperate for more voices and more choices. This is wonderful. My background is as a medical doctor, where i have worked for decades in the clinic. I became very frustrated how our health cannot be addressed tried working upstream on social drivers of illness and discovered reform is essentially stymied by the powers that be. Io . ■k■ moved from clinical medie to political medicine to address the mother of all illnesses, are rigged political system our rigged political system that makes change virtually impossible. We are in this historic moment right now, where the usual order of things, that of empire and oligarchy, is essentially teetering at the brink and we are all crisis in our lives in virtually every dimension of our lives. The need for deep change has never been so urgent. The possibility of that change has never loomed so large. That is very much thanks to the action of people in the listening audience, people who are here tonight that are really standing up to fight for an end to endless war and genocide, the fight for justice in the workplace, the fight for abolishing student debt, defending mother earth and rescuing are very embattled Civil Liberties which are very much under attack. We need solutions but solutions are not permissible in the current political environment. Breaking up our zombie duopoly, zombie political system is essential and look forward to discussing some of the ways to [applause]ight. Good evening. My name is jasminent to get somf the way. I am sat, i am black, i am a socialist running for president of United States. I am not wealthy, i am not living off a trust fund set up , rich parents. Make my friends wealthy or write a book. This election is a black swan event like never before. A thirdparty candidate can win. We do not have to pretend that we are trying to move parties to the right or left. If you want guaranteed housing, universal health care, Free Education and universal basic income, you will vote for jasmine sherman. All my policies will be read to you on my website. Lets reset. We do not need to keep attending. You know what is wrong. You do not need to hear politicians who are wealthy and will go home to their nice problems you experienced. You know there is no food in the refrigerator, you know there is what you dont know is what will solve your issues faster. Politicians have wonderful ideas. Icon. At you need is change. You need someone who can make sure you can feed your family, educate your children, spend time with them. Right now our country is at the precipice and we need to push it forward. If you actually want to do something i would recmeen to a a plan to put money in your pocket tomorrow. If you are not interested, go to jasminesherman. Com for more details and to donate because we have work to do. [applause] 5■qi am done with my time. Thank you, jasmine. Thank you very much for having me here. I think we probably agree there are a lot of problems. They cannot hear you on the mic. One moment. Can you hear me now . We are good. Please start over. I want to say thank you for giving us the opportunity to debate today. I imagine many on the folks on stage will have agreement about the problems we face. My name is chase oliver. I want to be the libertarian candidate for United States because i know people are getting sick and tired of being sick and tired. Over 60 oftheyre willing to va candidate not named donald trump or joe biden. We need to seize this opportunity to bring new solutions to the table. My solutions are rooted in freedom. If you are living your life in peace, notyour life is your lifr property is your property. Not the property or business of an overly intrusive government we have seen frankly my entire adult life. I am 39 years old. I am half of Donald Trumps age. My generation fought the war on terror. The entire Real Estate Market fell out from underneath us as big banks got bailed out in the regular guy got screwed over. It is my generation trying to raise families all over the country with record inflation caused by the overly abusive and intrusive federal government that continues to stifle growth. I got started in politics bein. I am antiwar to the core. I oppose the warfare state all over the world and we need to bring our troops back home. We need to have our milita removed from every continent. The only purpose of the military is to protect us fromi believe e movement immigrants. We have an Immigration Crisis at the southern border. It is the government who refuses immigrants to work andrt e their American Dream. I have also been a criminal Justice Reform advocate. People should be on a level Playing Field with Law Enforcement d government when they get their day in court and that is not happening. Go to votechaseoliver. Com to see my full platform. Thank you, chase. [applause] question 1. Immigration. ]reflecting the voice of the electorate, we ask questions directly from the public for todays debate. The first question chosen f reld concern. Given the evolving tactics of of advanced technology, underground tunnels and the smuggling of narcotics and human trafficking, what innovative approaches do you conceive to stay ahead of these criminal organizations and safeguard our borders while protecting americans and the vulnerable populations often exported by drug cartels who are smuggling. One of the things my platform does is recognize there is an immigrant crisis at the border. The u. S. What we need to do is decriminalize all Substance Abuse items. We need to put Safe Use Centers in every zip code. We need to get people universal health care. It must be in your zip code. You mustave access. It should include your prescriptions and holistic care. By making sure we go ahead and tke access, the same way it is easy to access when people were coming to ellis island, we would not have the border crisis. Ed to do is make sure we provide more medical staff, treat drug issues like disease they are instead of pretending these problems are bigger and not solvable. We have the funds to do it. What we do notave his leaders willing to put doctors in every zip code. We do not have leaders were not trying to play nice with the bad guy. We need younger leadership, more direction, entry americans the way they want to bdr■eai undersr government to make us think people are flooding our borders and to think america is under invasion but that is not accurate. We have tons of room in this country for more people. We had tons of room when people were taking over and jenna siding Indigenous People here and genociding Indigenous People here. We should reform the system and put money back in americans pockets. There is space for all of us. The difference is we need to be working towards making this country better. I am done with my time. [applause] chase. The point of your question is great. You talk about how we are digging tunnels. This is a perfect reason we dont need a giant wall on our southern border full of razor wire, stealing peoples property to build that. To have an ellis island style immigration system. You should be able to come to report of entry, do a quick check, and come here and get to work. There are jobs that need to be filled. There are people willing to do that and we need to keep the way of those people. If you look at the number of businesses crated by native born or firstgeneration immigrants, immigrants i increase the econoe for everyone. Talking about defunding cartels, the best way to do that is eliminate the war on drugs and remove the profit motive for cartels. If we allowed people to come through ports of entry easily, we would be able to put our focus on human trafficking. Let peaceful people in and let the small sliver of human traffickers be taken down by Law Enforcement. I. Do want to say this the time attacking immigrants. Those were the same slanders thrown against our forefathers who came here from germany, ireland, italy, and all over europe. Now theyre coming from south of the border and everywhere else. We should be welcoming them here. Be the next generation of american ottoman oars, Business Owners american entrepreneurs, Business Owners, people whoprosperity. I dont believe in the scare tactics. I live near immigrants, go to church with them,w and its ridiculous anybody would try to stop good, hardworking people from wanting to come to our country and stop there American Dream the way 40 of our country did. We need to get government out of the way. Thank you. To mitigate the Immigration Crisis, which happens to be a crisis now, but was not when the european settlers came to this nation, but so far, happens to be now, because its gendered, k about immigration, we need to think about Foreign Policy the ways the u. S. Has, through imperialist mechanisms, displaced people. 60 Million People across the world are moving because of wars, famine and Climate Change. We went to protective order . The best thing to do is get out of other peoples nations. Our solution is building foreign built on collaboration, bill on bringing back troops, closing the 800 military bases across the globe, shutting down nato, shutting down the southern coand, and putting those soldiers that are out there doing the bidding of capitalism, in this country to do meaningful work. [applause] lawrence . Thank you. I love that you framed it in the form of cartels because this is the problem that i see in america today. Prohibition does not work. We have prohibition in 1930s around alcohol and what did that create . Al capone. The government creates monopolies in crime when they prohibit things and they have created a monopoly for the cartels. If you are in business, what do you do when you are in business . You try to increase sales and production. The business of selling drugs and pushing drugs on americans. I believe the failed war on drugs has created more drug users than it hastd. It is time to end this failure. Throwing more people in jail and spending more money on the problem will not fix it. To deschedule drugs at the federal level and in the cartels altogether. This will solve a big part of the problem at our southern border. We have chs border because of the federal governments policies at the border. The cartels are disrupting the people south of the border and they are fleeing the violence and crime that comes with the cartels, so by eliminating them, we can get rid of the problems, but there is still chaos, so we need to streamline the system so people can come here easily, find work easily and be legal in this country like my ancestors were able to come and try to find the American Dream. I agree with claudia. We need to stop the imperialism in america. We need to stop rejecting ourselves all over the world. We need to close down those 800 bases she was talking about. We could usedb j that money to create an energy race that would lower the cost of Energy Across America and lower the cost of energy across the world. Would start lifting people up all over the World Without america spending any more money. [applause] thank you. Jill . Many points of agreement here. I completely agree this crisis of imm is a crisis thats been created, really, by the United States through our Foreign Policy, through our economic, and through Climate Change where we have been the major contributor to the destabilization of the climate, and on the issue of economic destabilization, consider for example the number of immigrants that have come from guatemala. Where did that originate . That was about doing a favor for united fruit and overthrowing the democratically elected but way back in the 1950s to prevent redistribution of land so poor people and peasants would have a means of basically. That model has been repeated over and over again. Its been documented that the u. S. Has conducted regime change , largely covertly, through the cia. Approximately 70 times since the second world war. That does not even include the wars we have conducted, which are of course another source of drastic destabilization and the source ofand its worth remindie that this Foreign Policy based on economic domination has a name. Its called fullspectrum dominance. It says the quiet part out loud, that the United States specifically, through its military and the pentagon, has declared we will dominate all regions of the globe at all times in all spheres of potential conflict. And we assert that power. We are asserting that power now in the middle east, where israel long ago declared the unthinkable battleship for the United States, essentially safeguarding access to oil, which, way back when, we need that oil. Now we dont but we still want to basically control that oil. So this is about reforming u. S. Pocy and ending the spigot driving this migration crisis. Thank you. Any rebuttals . ■oany rebuttals before we move n to the next question . I would just like to say that all of america is tired of watching moms and babies crawl under barb wire at the southern border. We areeople separated from their families. As a parent that devastates me and we can do better. We need to end the chaos at the border. Lets move on to question two. In your opening statement, chase, you did mention that criminal Justice Reform was an important part of your agenda. There is a growing movement against what some call the Prison Industrial Complex. America has more people in prison and jail per capita than any country in the world except china. You think theres a crime wave and how would you rethink our criminal laws and penalties for the 21st century . What steps would youto ensure prisons are more focused on rehabilitation . Take it where you may. I dont think we are in the middle of a crime wave. I think we are in the midd of an over criminalization wave. We mentioned the war on drugs. I can mention consensual sex work or any behavior wit should. We throw so many people in jail for this and it creates trauma. When you take someone who is an addict and you put them in jail, you traumatize them throughout that process. Then they get back on the street. Whats the first thing theyt tra with drugs. This creates a cycle thats ruining so many communities in this country, particularly communities of collagen of color and those that dont have the means to fight back when the government tries to taken down. I propose reforming criminal justice. Officers should be required to carry Liability Insurance so when they do do wrong that comes out of their policy. We need to do things like end the death penalty, mandatory minimums and private prisons. I dont believe the government should do a lot but one of those things should be criminal justice. I want to remove the profit motive for having people in prison. And every step of the way, through even release and people paying hundreds of dollars of dollars a month to be monitored by the state, i want to change this. But we are not in a crime wave. We are in a media generated fear wave. They want you to be afraid when you go to the ballot box because when you are scared its easier to control you. Hpi dont want to be afraid of people. I trust that most people are good people and if given the chance they would be able to live their lives in peace without the interference of government. Remove the over criminalization of our society, and qualified immunity end qualified immunity, and get back to a system where people are equal in a court of law. Thank you. And prisons. We switched to a system where you have someone at a home. My platform also gives everybody guaranteed housing. When it comes to preserving police and prisons, we think its time to stop dehumanizing icanyone who has questions about my policy can read it at jasminesherman. Com. However, its time to switch to a house with a Community Task force. Defunding and abolishing the police is the first step. Is the first step. Theres no reason for writer who doest live idl your zip code drawing a neighborhood. It makes more sense to pay the individual within the immunity to watch their own neighborhood and their owndu children and hep stimulate the economy and create jobs and keeps people home where they want to be. We are over criminalizing the vast majority of people incarcerated have done no Violent Crime the majority therefore nonviolent drug crimes and tx8his creates all sorts of problems for the cost ofin provn and ensuring they have a positive role in skills protruding members of society in addition to extremely oppressivd also addressing poverty and the causes of■; impoverishment and desperation that draws crime. One should be mindful t crimes the liftoff of the. Received enormous subsidies m the public by way of tax break. , the corporate contribution to our taxes, in fact, used to be used to be about 6 of gdp after the second world war. It is now 1 of gdp. Soas in giving away the store to the most fortunate, thosese are essentially rolling in profit, with essentially the invested in our communities, and our schools, and healthcare and so on, and created a desperate environment that often these people little choiceeo other thn a criminal enterprise particularly drug sales. So by legalizing drugs and providing fortrong communities we can essentially massively reduce the incarceration and people should also be hardened and release from jail where drugs are thank you. Claudia. We need to understand the very basis, the very foundation of the kernel Justice System in this country, of incarceration system of this country. And its based on private property and ispr based precisen thee control and the surveillae of people. There was no abolition of slaver there was, the differentiation of the transference of methodology, people in prison still still do cheap labor for this country. We need to abolish the Prison Industrial Complex that have a profit motive. We need to be able to understand security and our communities of housing, as impment, as those are the things we need. We need to also understand that the majority of crimes that jamaican come the majority, majority of crimes are crimes of survival. People trying to make ends meet in this country. And so we need to be clear that when we are talking about mass incarceration, it does not protect society. When we are talking about policing and the increased in all across the country, does not provide security. It provides violence and brutality in our communities. 2023 we solve the record highs, record highs of Police Brutality in our community. And so we need to be able to de roots to do with the problem and not just the symptoms. If we want to be able to abolish prison, we nd to abolish capitalism. If you want to abolish policing when you to abolish capitalism and provide a society, create a society that is able to provide us with all our basic and human rights so that we have a reduction in crime, because guess what, sociologist talked about that. Is less need for people to cover their needs, theree is less crime. So we want want to build to provide for people. Thank you, claudia. [applause] for our people. Cleare system is rigged. We see that in the upper echelons og÷government were congresspeople and the elite are able to get away with things that normal people would never be able to get away with. Yet somehow theres tears of justice based on who you know and how much money you have. We need to level the Playing Field. Some of the ways we can level the Playing Field is end qualified immunity so police cannot hide behind a badge and if they do something that is bad they get held accountable. We have to get rid of profit motive and we can do this by ending civil asset forfeituregr own departments and put money in their pockets and its clearly a system. I talked about ending the failed war on drugs. And to clats, desperate people do desperate things and there are people suffering financially and economically due to the way our economic systemn so we need to lift those people up and improve the economy for all people. I grew up poor with an outhouse and noable to live the americanm and found a large and successful company. I went all americans to be able to get to that level of success and have a standard of living we can be proud of. We used to have that before and i call for a■en end to the fedel reserve because i believe its one of the key institutions creating wealth inequality in income inequality inow america y stealing money from regular people and handing it to the banking cartel. That goes to the corporations. By the time it trickles down to the restf on the dollar. Wen yu to embrace our economy and get it going. We can get the ecomy and left economy going and lifted up and there will be less crime. Thank you, lars. Does anyone want to offer a rebuttal by something said by another . Claudia . Claudia i want to take the time to mention Political Prisoners system because they have done things for the rights of people, for black liberation, indigenous liberation. We have people like Edward Snowden and Julian Assange because the United States of america refuses to understand that not everything that is legal is legitimate. Not everything that is legal is right and we have the right to create the level of society that allows us to live in dignity. This is whheal prisoners have done. Jamal, peltier, the black liberation movement, Freedom Fighters that after coming out of being kidnapped by the state have died. The United States government, republicans, democrats, the ruling class in this country, are killing our people. We need to stop that. [applause] hachase i wanted to speak toa couple comments that have been made, particular about corporate control of our Law Enforcement. I am from atlanta. They try to slander us by saying we are from out of town but the truth is the people who are out of town are the corporate funders of the Atlanta Police foundation. So its important for people to unite together across this across the political spectrum. We talk about the 13th amendment and the fact that we had legalized slavery in this country. I heard a story of a young man who worked wonders 36 hours and sent his money thats worked 136 worked 136 hours and sent his money to the people of gaza and it was 36. Your Governors Mansion is being scrubbed by prison labor. Its important for us to speak up. The government is abusing people and corporations are the people invested i sure we are subjugated by our government and we should oppose it at every level. [applause] claudia raised her hand. Sorry, jasmine. Your next. Jasmine i wanted america to know my platform is the only one that ends prison and lets everyone out of jail and keeps people from going to jail. Thats it. I am done. [applause] on the subject of cop city, what we are seeing er political beliefs, the criminalization of Community Resistance to the destruction of its rare nmental recreation space, which is being systematically destroyed to further criminalize the to further militarize the police department. This is exactly what is wrong and its essentially criminalizing people now charged with terrorism charges, essentially, for attempting to protect their openspace and their forests and who have now been subject to rico charges and are at risk of enormous criminal penalties and longtm jail sentences, and unfortunately, this is not the only example of it. This is a growing trend of political repression that goes handinhandh censorship, whics part of this oppressive political environment that we are now fighting, which is bipartisan, and which demands our resistance and our unified opposition. [applause] all right. I want to make a quick note. We will not be able to get to all the public questnswe will es and invite you all to join us on twitter after the debate or x, should say. The handle is freeandequal. How will you ensure that tribal nations are adequately protected beyond recognizing broken treaties and land acknowledgments . What, will you do to address te severe, systemic inequality on indigenous reservations across the United States . What steps wouldou take in returning land back to indigenous nations . And how would you reinforce indigenous sovereignty and selfdetermination . We are going to start with claudia. Claudia i think that the United States ruling class has a historic debt to the Indigenous People of this country. Need to be able to provide reparations not only to the Indigenous People of this country but also black americans because this country was founded on the genocide and the displacement of Indigenous People but also on the backs of enslaved africans that were brought here to build this country. So we have a hisvtoric debt with Indigenous People in black americans. We believe that it is important to restore the treaties that have been broken over and over and over again. We have to lev t plane, which means we need to work to rebuild those communities. The levels of suicide and Substance Abuse are in the hands of many administrations that have come through, the ruling class that and steals the land from these communities, so when we are talking about a socialist solution, we are ng and assuming the historic responsibility we have with those communities. Land that belongs to the indigenous communities should be given back. Being able to provide the resources necessary for the Indigenous Community is an immediate call and being able to again level the Playing Field and provide for those communities that have been brutally and violentlyin the conditions of poverty that they are in now. I still have 20 seconds but, you can have it. Do you want to continue . Jill, we will move on to you. Jill absolutely. Those broken treaties need to be restored, particularly large, open space areas and forests and natural regions and rivers that are traditionally part of indigenous territories, which were stolen from them, they should be managed by Indigenous People. No one would do it better. Case in point, Indigenous Lands are classics for being subject to extraction and destruction and enormous pollution, and Standing Rock, for example, in north dakota. The pipeline going through Standing Rock put at risk the entire Mississippi River and the Drinking Water for Something Like 20 Million People. The same is true now with the Mountain Valley pipeline, in fact. These are all invading indigenous territories and its the indigenous nations who are really leading the fight not only to protect their sovereignty, not only to protect their land, but to essentially provide stewardship for us all in fighting to keep the air clean and the water clean. R us all and they have the traditional and indigenous wisdom to know the absolute critical nature of this of these resources. One of the activists that they have worked with with the green party and south dakota made the comment the other day culture measures wealth in terms of how much you have, but among indigenous cultures, t w by howe away. And thats really consistent with their understanding of the invaluable nature of our resources, and in particular, their sovereignty must be respected before their Natural Resources are exploited in any way whatsoever thank you. [applause] lars, we will move on to you next. Lars thank you very much. The government has broken many promises to all kinds of people over the years. I am reminded of a mule and an acre of land after the civil war was done. Im remigovernment placed the ne americans into oklahoma and into various states there and then, when they found resources in those areas, they decided that there was no longer their land and they would move them to some other land. We continue with this practice today with Eminent Domain laws, where the government seizes peoples property for the common good, as it were, and they displace these people that have worked hard for their land, they have put sweat and tears into their land, and take that and give it to the private sector or to the government, and i believe this policy is a continuation of this. For native americans, theres been a grave disservice. For black americans, theres been a grave disservice over and over again and the government. Has not changed its ways we need to at least stop the government from behaving the way it does and infringing on peoples rights and taking their land. It is something to goes on over and over again. We have to respect the trees we have put in place. And where there has been damage to be shown it should be rectified through the co. The thing is is that native americans have been given a bad lot. Africanamericans have been given a bad lot and are suppressed economically because the government stole their land, stole their ability to have a good economic prosperity. And so we need to lift these people up by helping our economy grow so it lifts all people up. I have a plan to do that. You can find it on lars24. Com. When talking about the issue of tribal sovereignty, the baseline is to start respecting the treaties mader ken. When a wrong is done, you have to rectify that through some sort of recompense. I believe that can come through e d. We have a lot of federal land that used to be tribal Sovereign Land that could be returned. Ti believe theres a completely Legal Framework to get that done. What i want to talk about is the fact that from the smablankets e western world have been treating Indigenous People like cr ap, and you see this in communities all over the country that have suffered through poverty, Substance Abuse at all kinds of things and it relates back to the original sin of the treatment of Indigenous People, so i would seek to respect tribal sovereignty 100 . I dont want people putting a pipeline on tribal land unless the tribe once it there and have determination over that land. If they are going to be selling that, should be paid to the tribe. It should not be taken away by ain and other processes. It starts by respecting the fact of tribal sovereignty should be absolute. I support the right of tribal from the government of the u. S. , they should have every right to do it and we should not stop them one bit, absolutely. Jasmine, go ahead. Jasmine in america, police solved less than 4 of crimes. Letsay you bought a stolen car. They would make you give the stolen property purchased back. We need to give land back. My platform provides people with guaranteed housing because we give the land back. That means no rent, no mortgage. We cannot say we will give Indigenous People sovereignty and then not. We cannot say we will give them their federal lands. They need more than that. They want all of their stolen property back. That does not mean it affix people from their home. It allows you to remain in your home and they have stewardship over the land. ■l■rthat means you would get ale money you spent on purchasing your home back and still be able to remain in your domicile. This also means we end the occupati of hawaii, of guam. We also give puerto rico their land back. We have to act like we really apologize. We cannot do that by giving somebody a piece of something. If you came to my house and took anything, i would want everything you took back. It would not be a polite conversation about what is mine that you took. The same situation we are seeing in palestine, invaded and occupied their land, is the same thing we did to Indigenous People here. Im not going to pretend, and my vp and i have been working with tribes around the country to wr ite a land policy with their voice. If you would like to participate in writing that policy, go to jasminesherman. Com. Your voice matters. For americans only worry about themselves, we are not kicking you out. You will have housing, health care and education. You will not have rent in you will not have mortgages. We can do things differently if we stop funding israel. Thank you, jasmine. [applause] before we move on, any rebuttals . Claudia, i think your hand went up. Claudia guantanamo needs to be given back to the cuban people. [applause] the decolonization of puerto rico, hawaii, and of every nation the u. S. Has its hands and grip on, because they are neocolonies, even though we dont talk about them. Its important ton u. S. Imperialist and capitalist government and socialist government. Not all governments are made the same. Jill, g ahead. Jill i just wanted to extend the connection between the Indigenous People of the United States, that is, the First Nations of the United States, and the Indigenous People of gaza, just noting that theres a very active and horrific genocide thats underway now. Regrettably, you know,tory of ge of Indigenous People in this country. And that is ongoing, though lowgrade, but that continues the oppression and hardship, the sickness, the poverty, the drug addiction and so on. Theres active harmgenous peopls country that needs to be rectified but theres also a very active, fullblown genocide going on in gaza now and is hat and its critical that we call that to an immediate halt and stop funding toae basically apply a National Boycott and sanctions Program Towards israel. [applause] i wanted to add theres a bureau of Indian Affairs in our government. Its high time the government gets completely out of the affairs of native peoples and shut down completely. [applause] thank you all. Just want to comment that its interesting that we have two socialists, two libertarians in a Green Party Candidate on stage. Im also a Green Party Candidate and a socialist. You can be both. Apologies. But you agree quite a bit oim n commedia get a little bit of debate between youall. Policy, and this we will start with you, jill. With pfa is another chemicals contaminating the Drinking Water of 3000 communities and affecting an estimated 200 million americans, what responsible parties accountable for this pollution . Furthermore, how would you ensu the cleanup of the substances to prevent further contamination despite potential opposition from those Big Industries you have been talking about . Jill absolutely. Our administration would put priority on not only cleaning up those communities, those water urce these aquifers, related especially to military bases, which have been the major source of contamination, and reflects again how dangerous militarization of the country is and the many ways in which it harms important people understand the threat that pfas causes, and yet, it s to be investigated and people need to be informed about the risks we are incurring, but i think its important thwbe atto one chemical, because pfas polluting substances. The first was lead. It actually took almost a century of harm to children in the early 1900s. There was thought to be an an epidemic affecting young children. Nobody knew why they were suddenly having strokes. It turned out they were having strokes because lead paint had entered the market and was being used on the porches of homes, brightl■ y colo sweet. This is by way of illustrating that the system does not protect us. We have so many incidents, one after the other of love canal and dioxin and toxic waste sites that came back to haunt us. We are finding these over and over again. We are seeing it now in east palestine, where theres been a spill of e which were ignited when they should not have been and did not need to be, and the epa is actually colluding with o do a coverup, and the community has undergone great harm. So this is a case in point o how we need a regulatory system that is not serving our corporations but us. Theres a vested interest in each person to breathe clean air and drink clean water. I think now what we hagovernmene wrist to people. We have tort caps, fine caps, all these caps that dont cover the breadth of the damage people are doing. I believe you should be able to seek recompense in court but what we have now is tort caps, so when someone sues and they are getting cancer or some horrib disease, they are given a few hundred thousand dollars as if that pays the price of whats been done to them. I support removing l rt c■ aps so polluters can pay when they go to court rather than getting a slap on the wrist. Its not leading to cleaner air and cleaner water when youe that protection to polluters. I would speak to the fact that if you want to live in a cleaner world, we have to stop letting the government pick winners and losers when it comes twhat is me government today . Carbonbased energy. I dont like the government picking winners and losers the marketplace. I would deregulate energy entirely, particularly Nuclear Energy, so we can get more of that online, which burnslean, can provide so much power, more than natural gas or coal or anything else, and is much safer. People are scared of three mile island or chernobyl but i remind him those are rare things. We see thousands of coal miners who have died of lung disease, thousands of pple suffering asthma at all sorts of effects from carbonbased fuel. I would like to get back to a policy to remove those camps and let polluters pay when they do something wrong. On to lars. Lars i think i have uncovered a new rigged system listening to my paneliststhe government is ds poor job of taking care of people and protecting people from harm. Why is that . That is because the government, the congress, essentially, gives favors to the rich and to the elites those corporations are basically in cahoots with our government. That is why they are able to get away with these things we are talking about, where they are able to cover up things, and reduce the penalties that might come. The mechanism to go after those corporations when they harm us so they are more careful when theyre making their products, right . Right now we have a bureaucracy that shields them from being held accountable, and we need to and that by reducing that we do seem thanks,s, lars. Jasmine . Are right, you guys. Im so excited. You need to know about my triple bottom line accounting policies. Im not just picking pi. Everything you can hear me say tonight has a tangible policy, a stepbystep plan of transaction. Americans cannot wait for someone to get into office so congress and the senate ignore it. Americans need to know what theyre getting into right now. We already have politicians that make false promises. E bottom acg policy tackles the Environmental Concerns corporations have done and the human damage corporations have done. We go back 37 years. I want want 3 my money from gm,i wanted from ge under one it from amazon. If you go to my website you will see the list of them. I also need people to understand we need to keep all of our fossil fuels in the ground. A pe environmental and infrastructure plan, does that. We switch to renewable energy. We make every single state, city and town ada compliant, putting paths on sidewalks, because everyone forgets about the disabled, everyone forgets that the that covid is still a everything is connected. The pipes are dirty so we need to get clean water to everyone. We cannot do that through the nd. So look at my policy and review how we give you clean water without costing you more money. Everybody listens my tax policy is posted as well. And we need highspeed rail. Americans back to work and stimulates the economy. Im done. Thank you, jasmine. [applause] claudia . Claudia i think its important to understand that when we are talking about the climate ected to many of the human crises, the social and economic crises, we experience. And so we can aempt to regulate corporations that run this country. We cannot. We need to see is those corporations and make them Public Utilities that shift to we need to seize those corporations and make them Public Utilities. We need to give it to workers to decide how that will be utilized. One of the ways that can be done onef crisis could be tackled in doing that is precisely having, for example, decolonization of energy resources, a ren shift from the carbon and the oil to renewables, but we also need to be able to understand , and jill mentioned this, the pentagon is one of the biggest polluters in the world. And i believe that cutting 90 of the military expense servic, to the environment. It is important [applause] also to take out the profit motive of many of these socalled corporations that are trend. They go green but in reality what they are trying to do is accumulate wealth. Energyr energy, are becoming a force of profit a source of profit. Sorry. Profit for these companies. So we need to be able to come agai e wealth to, again, extract the well from these billionaires making pfitys creating the crisis we are experiencing. Thank you, claudia. Does anybody want to rebut anybody else in what they said . Jill i have not spoken yet. My apologies. Jill i think you started us thats true and then we shifted to energy. Let me speak on energy briefly. Sure. In fact, i would like to address some of the issues that were raised here. For example, a nuclear, its xample, on nuclear, its important to understand that without enormous public subsidies, nuclear would not exist. It is dangerous, expensive, and could not survive without subsidies. The Reason Nuclear plants are not being built because is because they end up being huge holes in the ground. Nuclear is not an option. And in terms of whether theres some Government Program that directs us towards green■÷y, i think its important to understand that we have a crisis here of monument example, underd the Colorado River is about to run dry, and agricultural system goes down with it, and thats half the fruits and vegetables for this country. So this is not something they can be left to the markets. It cannot be left independent corporations. There needs to be public planning and ownership of infrastructure to ensure our survival. [applause] allow me to defend Nuclear Energy for a moment. The Reason Nuclear energy is so expensive and costs are so great is because of the overregulation of the marketplace. Nuclear energy is not dangerous. Modern Nuclear Technology is far safer thans carbonbased fuels that get trillions of subsidies. If we want to solve the Climate Change crisis and get ourselves off carbon based fuel,■x tdo thg Nuclear Power today. The technology does not exist to fully replace our entire Power Infrastructure with renewable energy. I wish it wereut it is not. We have the ability to harness the power of Nuclear Energy that does not put any carbon into the air. It is■h clean, safe and effectie in todays technology and nuclear shows a smaller footprint than the three mile islands or chernobyls of the todays Nuclear Technology can have a smaller footprint. [applause] can go back to jail■h again can it go back to jill again . One more rebuttal. Jill this deserves to be rebutted note the cost of nucler dont go down just because you have a small plant. The risks do not go down. The dangers are still ever present and are extremely expensive. That is why Nuclear Plants have become so large, because they are noco scale, magnitude, and by making them small, you ensure the costs are going to be even greater. So small is a Public Relations campaign, which is basically being recycled by the nuclear industry, and its a false oi think we have to choose between nuclear and fossil fuels. We actually have renewables, which far under shoot the costs now of both fossil fuels and nuclear, and this is the technology of the future that is safe and sustainable and affordable. Claudia and jasmine, did you want to rebut . Ok. Chase i worked for years and the maritime shipping industry and it is one of the areas where we create lots of pollution in the world. We cannot onto a container ship but we can put Nuclear Powered container ships onto the cds that could move products from one area ont■os from one area of the world to another. There are applications for nuclear that could curb the Climate Crisis even if you dont want to build a Nuclear Power plant. You could build ships that could save carbon from being spewed and products would be able to get to our doors cheaper if we utilized that. Lars . Lars im calling for an energy race. Part of that is abolishing the Nuclear Regulatory commission because they are stifling innovation. It takes 40 years to build a Nuclear Power plant in america. France only takes six to eight years. Frances the leading country in carbon reduction in emissions because they are building Nuclear Power plants in the frenzy. China has a plan to 200 Nuclear Power plants online within 100 years and we will fall behind. If we do not starteducing energy costs and embracing new technologies, not just nuclear, all kinds of technologies. We should be allowing innovation in america. This■■t will drive jobs, drive n the cost of energy, reduce inflation. Theres all kinds of technologies coming out, thorium salt reactors. Theres things that eat the waste and use up the waste. Tillhinking of Nuclear Energy from 50 years ago. Technology advances. We are not still having big computer plants we have to feed with cards. We can do this. Americansdo it and i think amern do it. Thank you. [applause] there from pfas to nuclear. A question on Economic Policy now. Nations have come together to establish alternative financial systems, specifically brics. How do you plan to mitigate the impact on the value and relevance of the american cuand how do you counter the popularity of that bloc by engaging with foreign leaders trying to join brics . Chase this has to do with the tariffs we are putting on people, the ways we engage in trade, forcing other countries to band together to create alternative currencies because am a dominance on the currency because we are the World Reserve currency and stifle other countries and keep countries out based on our political believe. And so its no wonder they are trying to make new currencies to get around our hegemony. What we need to do is we need to stop all the Foreign Trade wars we have got going on because Foreign Trade wars lead to real wars. We need to be embracing trade with other countries so that they dont have to turn to other financial instruments. And we are destroying our own llar because we have printed 34 trillion worth of debt. That reduces the standard of living for all americans and it means the dollar is not worth as much around the world. If you owe 10 million and you are only making 100,000 a inve. Thats whats going on with america now. Other countries see this and they are slowly divesting themselves of the dollar because they se investment because we at handling our finances we do not spend our money wisely or officially in america. And ipk bet everyone on this ste would agree we should spend the money america takes from its citizens more wisely and efficiently and we can do that by canceling the banks credit cards. We have to rein in the fed and stop the endless printing of money devaluing the dollar in your pocket and reducing your standard of living. Thank you. [applause] thank you, lars. Claudia, your next. Claudia end capitalism before it ends us. It is the foundation of this country to dominate, to have control, to have hegemony over the rest of the world. U. S. Imperialism thrives on that, so brics is not the problem. U. S. Imperialism is. So we need to understand the capitalist system under which we live is in crisis, recession, depression, inflation every four to seven years. Every four to seven years theres a bubble that bursts and we will continue to have that under capitalism and so we are talking about an Economic Policy that works for the majority of people in this country, its not a capitalist economy. That is the policy. We need to aboshitalism as it is and as it exists. Despite what biden says about the economy and how people feel about the economy, the majority e in this country are suffering. We have come again, over 160 Million People who live in or near poverty. 800 people who die every day in the wealthiest country in the world because of poverty related issues. The socialist solution is to take back the wealth produced by the workers at Companies Like amazon, exxon mobil, walmart, nationalize and socialize that wealth. We want to be able to have value in the dollar in the u. S. It does not need to dominate the rest of the world. [applause] thank you,jasmine, moving on. Jasmine people, i just want you to know, economists work for rich people. Wants them to say. I rarely find an individual that will go, my paycheck or my values. Some of them exist but not everyone is me. One of the things we need to do is end our relationship with the fed. That is not a governmentwe haveo believing it is. It is a private company messing with our lives. The an indexed living wage. I will simple if i that for people i will simplify that for people because our Education System has failed a lot of us. If walmart raises their prices, they raise their wages. Wendys, f you, man. Go to jasminesherman. Com. Another thing we need to do is create jobs in communities where people live. That starts with mixed walkable neighborhoods. That starts with renewable energy. That starts with us stopping our pursuit of imperialism. We dont need to be the global dominator. Your money should be able to work here where you live. I understand the question was about how i make things nice with other countries and the way we do that is to take our boots off of their next and renegotiate trade deals. If you go to jasminesherman. Com, you can see my Foreign Policy is posted. Theres an audio feature if you dont have time to reawe have te right way to live. I know what was done in the past but i dont follow suit with people who dont look like me. And you know what trump and biden look like. Its time for younger people. Its time for marginalized people to lead. Its time for us to put money back in american pockets and they cannot afford for us to wait and make a commission. [applause] thank jill . Jill so the shift in economic d wealth has moved from the u. S. And nato to the bricks and that is enlarging, it is no longer just four or five nations, it is saudi arabia and a number of other countries. This is part of the u. S. Empire that has ended its last days and in part, that is all empires kind of come to an end of their terms, our empire is overextended and aremp expandint and our congressional budgets on destroying other nations and we have moved wars and we have invested some 21 trillion since 9 11 in several wars libya and syria and afghanistan and iraq, they are not over yet. Joe biden is bombing three countries in order to maintain israels rights to conduct a genocide. We are bombing syria, iraq, and yemen. I think it is israel who is bombing yemen, we bombing yemen as well . There you go, four countries as well as iranian targets outside of iran. Iran now has a mutual defense treaty with russia. We are absolutely playing with fire and risking Nuclear Conflict by are proclivity of the engaging absolute empires in its last days. It is important that we ship from being a war economy to a financial is economy on behalf of wall street that is rethinking the majority of profits to being an economy for working people. Thank you. [applause] chase on how we get to strengthen our dollar, quit printing dollars out of thin air to pay for debts and deficits we cannot afford, we need to stop that practice. Why is that happening . The federal reserve, somebody who has always supported auditing the fed so they can see what is happening and ending the fed. T us entire money back to gold, silver, saffron, something that has intrinsic value. That will strengthen our dollar. How do we improve our working relationship with other nations . Remove trade wars, tariffs are not paid by china, they are paid by each and every consumer and it creates further economic strife. I was a democrat 16 years ago and i supported a guy and voted for him because he silver 12 close guantanamo he said we were going to close guantanamo. I was excited to vote f the gotd walked back on every single promise he made. A libertarian will make those promises and follow through if we were ever elected. Opportunity to support peace and diplomacy, taking the boot off of the necks of so many people around the world and the war machine would get it done starting on day one. We want to walk the walk. That involves relate treating people with common respect, commonfree, teardown all trade barriers and let us see which economies can function in a truly free market. That is what i would like to see. It starts with strengthening our dollar by stopping controlling of the dollar and ending the war machine that is killing so many people all over the world what our taxpayer dollars, our bombs have american flags on them and engaging with real diplomacy and not being afraid to run into somebody who might disagree with you. That cowardice since 9 11 and it will continue as long as publicanand democrats are out of the white house. [applause] rep. Ogles for those who are permitted rebuttals for those who are permitted . Use money and your pocketbook today, universal basic income with money back in your wallet, tax changes, we take full growth. My policies, all of them you can read on my website, you can even schedule a meeting with me, [indiscernible] you do not need a reporter [indiscernible] in your pocketbook. I will stop talking because you cannot hear me anyway. I believe cp . Claudia the very reason we are going to hold for one second. [applause] [indiscernible] we will letou finish if you have more to add. Thank you. Jasmine i know you could not hear me before but at the end of the day you need universal basic income, we cannot afford to pay 95 billion, we have the funds to treat americans elected officiae choice not to treat you well. Bafta end our abusive relationship with the government or any politician who cannot tell you what they would do. Tomorrow is a politician that is wasting your time. That is it. That sounds better thank you for that o to claudia and come to you. And claudia we have to go to the root of the problem which is capitalism, we need to abolish the federal reserve. One votes y control our ability to live or die in this country. There needs to be an abolishment of the institution. We need to be able to seize the money to be able to provide a universal income to people. To have a democracy within these workplaces where people can actually decide how they will utilize their profits and how they will actually engage in being and contributing the wealth that they produce. We need to go to the root of the problem, time is running out and people are fed up and it is time. [applause] i want to take the opportunity to talk about cryptocurrency and the opportunity to take on a different type of currency. We need to allow american citizens, if the government will steal our money through printing massive debt we need to allow for alternative currencies to be developed. One of these might be bitcoin or another cryptocurrency. Additionally, i want to voice my concerns about centralbank Digital Currencies which are on the horizon. The fed look like a little child when it comes to the authoritative nature of the centralbank Digital Currencies because it allows the government to surveilled each and every transaction that you do and they will know what you are doing in real time and we cannot allow it centralbank Digital Currencies to takeh effect and finally, we have to abolish the irs altogether because this is the way the government is stealing your money and we need to allow citheir paycheck so they have te money to pay for the expensive things that the government has created. Thank you. [applause] moving on to our next question. ■National Unity, this is fitting to have such an adverse use so a Diverse Group of ■kindividuals. It is a dream come true to see this group together tonight. The National Unity was growing public distrust and disillusionment of the two party system or are registered as independent then democrat or republican, this reflects political thought leaders that are americans are turning to others to unite our country. Given your policies represent a divergence from politics as usual in the United States, can you provide a contemporary example of yies are successfully implemented overseas . Why should the u. S. Consider adopting them . How would you adapt these policies do you a country of 300 Million People . Jasmine an example of how my radical policy would work is the same way that israel is living rentfree on your dime, you could do it for yourself here. America already shells out enough housing, Quality Health care, quality education. It is time that we actually utilize that for americans. I do think that this is not a race to emulate other countries. I think the whole point of being someone who is a thirdparty candidate is to not continue the status quo. I do not see the purpose in preserving hunger, starvation, those are things that are happening not just in gaza but right here. Have people who are malnutrition right here in the United States i understand that the focus is people are worried about too much socialism and what you will lose, you do not have the lose anything for someone to get a bigger piece of the pie if we stop funneling all of our money overseas to baghdad and corporations who do not pay taxes. Some oyou are filiou some of you right now are filing your taxes and amazon doesnt pay taxes, they receive tax money. And thats messed up. We dont need to continue what weve been doing. Wed need to do something new, something that will stop our generation, millennials, gen z, from suffering. We already know what generations who have been in charge for ever, or at least all 38 years ive been here, or going to get us. We see what all the people due to our environment. We see what they do when the lead corporations. Its not i millennials. Its older people. We dont need more of them in our government. We need an age gap and term limits. We need to put Americans First make sure that instead of emulating other e countries we go ahead and do Something Different and be a leader for positivity for once. [applause] chase. So the great thing libertarians only talked about wanting to in the drug war and the fantastic country in europe that can do that, the nation of portugal. The the highest ivey drug use. What they decided to do instead of fighting a cracked and drug war like we do they deiminalize all drugs, destigmatize people using drugs. If you want to get help theres access and avenues to get help for addiction. And also it destigmatize his use of that. If you feel you have an unquoted product or use of drug and you fear fentanyl, you can take to pharmacist and all tested to four small fee scene of the quality. Not that of what anyones usr went i want people to stop dying of overdoses of fentanyl being mixed in. That something we can look to as an example and weight improve upon that its that ie government sponsored Addiction Program and rely on direct and mutual aid with an own canoes so they cann better care for committees. Lets get back to the idea of National Unity. A lot of americans are le us at sick and tired of being sick and tired. They see this continue twoparty system that weve been going through and they want something better. Stages like this they see somebody they might want to vote for and when voters tried to shame the by calling those people spoilers, mys, message to you right now is wereoilers. The spoilers of the twoparty system that doesnt give us rankedchoice voting or any other way to make our election more representative of the populations they serve. They are happy to have your election spoiled preventing new voices rising up in challenging them. Im somebody is running for president to put that new voice forward and to challenge the system to their face and bring millions of new americans to this mission to tear down the the Libertarian Party is poised beyond nearly every bout if that every ballot and the United States and we will be that to be. For change if you allow teardown the twoparty system. Thats how we bring people around together when we stop dividing them that is the republican and democratic partyu [applause] wonderful, thanks. Claudia. Theres two things, National Unity and examples abroad. We dont need to go abroad to think about g socialism. The wealthy of socialism. They dont have to fight for health care, then how to fight for housing or struggle against the military industrial complex. They dont have to do any of that. Av they have access to the civil rights and access to the right. The majority of people do not pick 99 of the population of this country do not have everything that they need to be able to survive. When we areer thinking about socialism, lets think about socializing, redistributing, reorganizing. That is what we are proposing and is something that could be done in this country ife were able tota take back the money tt has been kidnapped by the billionaires and the millionaires of this country. Th we dont need to go too far. Every socialist experiment that has ever existed has been invaded, has been sanctioned as has been fought against. Theres a reason because it provides a path for the majority of people in the world. The billions of people in the world that are at the mercy of five, five individuals that own more of the wealth in this world than the majority of people in this world. And so when were talking about socialism thats what we mean. Taking back what is ours. When we talk about National Unity we all agree that we have the basic human right to education, the basic human right to housing, to health care, that we should not have to pay to be able to access those human necessities. Therefore, let us find our Common Ground in the fight of defending what our human and civil rights are. If you are a part of the 1 that has all of those rights, you should grow a bit of a soul and understand that there is money you have made on the backs of workingclass people who are coming back fo for what isr theirs back. [laughter] i believe america started out with the right idea, w and government over the years weve grown more and more in one thing i say is more government we more mediocrity. Government seems to grow and grow. If you ever heard of layoffs coming tos washington . Thats what i like to bring to washington across the board in percent more cut under control. G neighbor against neighbor, we have government coercion. We have what is essentially one group of people taking the moral high ground and telling another group of people how to behave and flips and flops depending on whether the democrats or the republicans are in control. Everybody feels they are being oppressed by government but they are being coerced by gornme we need to get government out of peoples lives and let people live their lives as they best see fit and you know how to live your life better than anyone in the government. Why do we keep handing the government the ability to tell us how to live our lives . It is micromanaging what straws we can use and what forks we can use and what kind of paint we can put on our house. We have got to get government out of the way to let people live their lives and this will bring unity. We see it, we see in the rights and we saw in the january 6th stuff. People areling disillusioned because the system is rigged against them. I have 37 policies■b to stop ths division in america and bring people back together again and part of that is our economic disparity. We need to lift peop not so des, desperate people do desperate things. We have to lift them up. Thank you. [applause] everybody answered the question and we can have a rebuttal. Jill think the idea of lifting people up is very important and unfortunately it does not happen by itself. Allowing corporations to run russia. Our concentrates itself and we s not to my mindver and over obtrusive government or we exisa society . If you are in a household you have rules. You have pyou see the society at magnified, we need to have government that is not corrupted the power of corporations. One thing that the American People agree on among many things is getting big money out of politics to have policies which are rational, which work, and which people probably support. There 90 or more of the American Public that support Campaign Finance reform, public funding of elections, so that we can get money out of politics and get people back in, it has been studied and nausea him and we know that our Public Policy is driven by corporate money and a left to its own devices it will continue to do that, left to its own devices it is driving us over the cliff. One area that is happening is health care. We know in terms of programs that are working around the world, the United States is the only couryt does provide health care as a human right through a medicare for all type of system which we desperately need. We have been the audience here tonight someone who lost his son to Insurance Company behavior and lost his son basically because his drug policy and pharmaceuticals were canceled because of a 20 fee that was late. He lost his Mental Health drugs and wound up with tragedy. This has been repeated over and over again, we need a for all right now. We need medicare for all right now. Jasmine this ino rebuttal, it is expansion, im sick that politicians who are on militated get out here and vilify marginalized voices, there was no bl rights, that is not how that happened. We have so many politicians that think and they pretend i care about marginalized communities and then you poop on them in the next breath. You have to stop voting for people who demonstrate that they do not give a damn about you. I am done. Thank you. Anymore . We move on to rapidfire questions here. I will begin on this one and we answer yes, no, left, right for this question. You support hardening any of these individuals . Leonard l thiers . Are there any side the ones we listed you would want to pardon . I agree with that. Born all of those people. Pardon. All of those people. Among those who are incarcerated for political reasons, the man who identified that drones kill the wrong person 10 times more often than they kill the actual target, he is running in a high security prison . Nathaniel hill . Jasmine i am abolishing prison, giving them health arrest so they can house arrest so they can thrive in this country. first thing i would do his part and in all four of those and anybody who is a truth teller, a whistleblower, and your prison for any crime which there are no victims release individual prisoners for any crime which there are no victims. That is why we suffer so much problems in this country. [applause] we are going to a two minute closing statement beginning with lars . Lars we have heard from all of the president ial candidates and they have said that the system is rigged and i like i said, i have 37 pieces of policy online website to unrig the system, we did not get to our elections which i think is one of the main things that all of the people on this date have to deal with. A Ballot Access laws, during menuing gerrymandering, the governmentinur elections and i have the voters bill of rights which is my signature piece of policy, is nonpartisan, it can get restore the integritn our american system because if our people do not trust our elections, we have an nonfunctioning republic. Our public is cracking and it is not functional. Some of the pieces of this cy for all regardless of party or affiliation Ballot Access for all regardless of party or affiliation. Anybody should have equal access to the ballot and we see this with rfk being taken off of the ballots, the duopoly rigged systemao againstverybody. We have a piece for transparency , auditing the vote of americans. Thety to audit the machine code of all of the machines so that we all know what is going on. Even if we have free and Fair Elections who would know . It allows the restoration of Voting Rights for criminals who have served their time. It is allowing for a pap so than match up with a government that your vote has been counted properly and we can restore integrity to your system. Please, if nothing else to take from tonight, go look at my bill of rights, get it to your congressman and assemblyman andy your everybody who is power because we need to fix our election systems. No one will be able to change anything unless we can get electeto office and right now this is so big none of us can make it. [applause] rigged so none of us can make it. Claudia i want to talk■ the redemption of the people in this country, the political ruling class has done in the last five months. I want ttake these talk about the fact that we have, we have, the u. S. Government and people who have been last five years have been complicit in the killing of over 30,000 people. Jasmine e been children and women. Claudia we need to stop fronting genocide not only in palestine, but in every corner of the world. Everywhere else the United States has its finger and hands. It is not selfdefense, that is Extermination Campaign and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian People that has been happening for the last 75 years and we salute the sacrifice of aaron bushnell, we continue the call and the work for the liberation of palestine, for Palestinian Peoples rights to return and rebuild. That i of system we need to build in the system in order to do so we need to uproot the capitalist system. End the u. S. Empire, we shall build a socialist society that is on the face of collaboration of solidarity and the respect and sovereignty of other countries and people. [applause] whew powerful. Jill we are at a historic Tipping Point right now. We are looking at the laste andd we are looking at all of the prizes that go with it, crushing inequality, three billionaires lth and power of the lower 50 of the population, half of the population, 50 has exactly 2 of resources. This is the world we get if we allow corporations to rule the t that we have which is basically bought and paid for by powerful corporations of billionaires, bankers, etc. We have crushing inequality, endless war, the United States is not only conducting many bombing campaigns, we are actually in 85 countries conducting antiterror, socalled antiterror operations as a continuation of basically 9 11 policy. We are approaching potential Nuclear Conflicts not only in the middle east but also in ukraine and potentially in china. More than one Nuclear Submarine alone hold the equivalent of 40that is enough to throw us ino substantial Nuclear Winters that could eliminate half of the population of the entire country. Our leaders are entirely clueless about this and they are extremely reckless terminally, ■ criminally ck and we have a Climate Crisis floating under our noses. We put other options on the table, we be allowed to debatele knows we are all in the target hairs of this incredibly reckless and predatory system where the you calle capitalism,t corporatism, it does not matter, we are all very much the target and we cannot afford to look the other way. ■ we need change now, our campaign will be the one proworker, antiwar, antigenocide and climate erosion campaign on the ballot across the world. Check us out. [applause] jasmine i did not step on thisd that the duopoly has taken us so far back to the only remaining solution is to do a national reset. We have admitted that we can deny the truth in front of us, our tax dollars are funding wars and foreign lands and supporting several genocides. We need to end the obligation of lance the do not belong to us. Occupation of lands i do not belong to us. We need to make sure that americans can meet their basic needs to be born not acknowledging that your rent is due tomorrow, most people cannot afford to put food on the table. Homeownership is nonexistent for young people, homelessness is rising and although we pretend it is not a thing, the fact that the population of the elderly are losing their homes because of scams that predatory lenders use. You have not been living your best life, i know it and the people on the stage know anybody who is in office knows it. You notice they are not trying to change it. I am not a politician, i am running for the highest office of the land and i recognize that. I also recognize that i am standing every day beside you. I am acknowledging that is lgbtqi a rights, it is disability rights, it is reparations, land back, prepalestine, congo, it is time for us to showcase that we are going to do something rather than just tkiyou need to vote io change, you need to vote because unlike them i know that a thirdparty candidate, show up, show out, and vote i am done. [applause] the answer . That is beautiful, chase . Chase thank you for the opportunitytonight, this would e afforded to us of the democrats and republicans would have control this process. I want to reject the duopoly and i believe the best way to do that is freedom and trust. Freedom for each and every individual to live their lives so long they are living that life in peace, that is because trust each other, we can determine for ourselves the best way to go about our lives. That is a message i will resonate with millions of American Voters who are sick and tired of being controlled by an overly intrusive abusive federal government. I do not believe the solution to the pass will fixtself, clinical philosophies and structure that failed in the 20th century will not solve homelessness and help people in this country. What will is returning peoples power back and central planners can make that decisiofoi woulds power across this country. We can form our own mutual aid organizations, that can help our fellow man. I believe that there are a lot of people who want to help each other. They know that the weight of the government is set up in the way the government distributes that help is not working for people. Ask your dollar and they will give you a dime, that is what the government can give you. We should decentralize everything about our lives, remove the war machine, stop fighting wars overseas and killing innocent people with our taxpayer dollars. Stop abusing pe criminal Justice System and on our border who want to come here and work, get real opportunities by removing the power out of the hands of government and returning it back to each and every individual. I sincerely believe that we can have a better americiftrn ust eh other a bit more and do less for the people who have a badge and a gun and do harm in our name. Check out our platform and im so grateful for my team, we have tellers in all 50 states we are the best vehicle to challenge the duopoly in 2024. Thank you very much. [applause] that is a real debate, this has been an amazing evening, thank you so much to everyone who participated tonight. 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