Day. Look we can alle down to turn out. Polls are showing nikki haley within 30 points of donald trump, right there. I time on this, but ill ask you three questions t each to respond to. Relative to polling, you all right there, sparky . I was apparently unscrewing my microphone instead of pulling it out. In New Hampshire, nikki haley won democratic voters who crosseover, 865 will she do better than that or worse today than that South Carolina in South Carolina. Worse. Im going to better level or better. She won independent voters 5839. Will she do better with independen today . Level or better. Sara . Noworse hold on. Are we talking we talking like absolute numbers . Because here is the thing, in new hampshir are way more independents who culturally are used to vot i need percentages, im trying to norm it out. The point im trying to get at. A higher percentage, but lower absolute numbers translate into better showing. And im saying the more these of her, that the less they land i dont think thats true. And with republicans, she got 39 of selfidentified republicans in New Hampshire. Give me her number with selfidentified republicans today. 30 . 28 . Ab. Im in that window definitely worse. Ill take the under. Last question. Youll take the under. This is the price is dollar one dollar. Does any of it nikki haley strike you as the person whos going to stand up to marco rubio and Mitch Mcconnell and ron entire rest of the party and say you guys are the crazy ones ioing to do this. I dont know let me go to bat for for a second. I think shes going to do worse not because i think that i think shes a much better she was when she was doing her middling thing in New Hampshire, right . The problem is that South Carolina which is her home state, which is going to hurt its going to hurt more for her to underperform in South Carolina since she was the governor e, state thats a good fit for her. New hampshire was a much better nikki haley, even the republicans in New Hampshire fit for somebody like nikki haley. Yu in South Carolina im amazed. We did a focus group in south carolind its with tim, who wrote that really amazing profile ofey a couple of years ago, whats so conversation i had with alberta about nicky is that that piece haley, a time for choosing. And it was about this question was she going to choose to burn the boats . Was she to basically because albertas thesis nikki haley was a decent p wanted to do the right thing, the Republican Party to be sort of can leadership in the world, free markets kind of s she going to choose that or was she was going end up back in trumps corner right . The reason the they voters in South Carolina and nobody was going to vote for her, there was one woman who was going to vote for her because she wanted her to have a good enough showing that trump might pick her to be vicepresident , but anted to vote for trump. This person liked she was a trump person, but the thing that they all say, they say her. They cant trust nikki haley d the reason they think they cant trust her because nikki haleultiple sides of the trump question now for a long time right . They heard her say, i wont run for president if donald trump doesnt want me to. Like remember when she was asked if she was going to run and she said well talk to trump first and sort of get his permission. That doesnt exactly scream strength and authenticity and things she needed to win, but shes she hasnow, i think, to be burn the boats nikki. The problem is shes been both those things for so long people cant trust her, whe right now, i think shes doing a good job. I think shes running as the wanted to be and i hoped she would be, and going to stay in un that. Ive got problems with the way herself, but stay in and im going to fight for it. Okay i was mean. I take it back. All right, enough time in sou ivf, which is suddenly the most important issue in america, the Alabama Supreme Court rules, they dont exactly rule illegal, not a ban on it, but they issue a ruling probably drive ivf out of the state ofe have what should be a weird moment of ivf is wildly popular, here i have the pol down here somewhere. Hold yeah 86 of americans are in favor of Something Like 72 78 of p advocates are in favor of ivf. Evangelical christians in favor of ivf. So you would think this is going to be a problem and nikki when asked about she got herself on the wrong side initially, and shes been scurrying to back off of that since then and has trade to then frame it as a states rights issue, but you know like personally think that ivf is great and we have to respect states and every state is going to come to different decision abouts it trump does and i do think thatple misunderestimate trump, hes a demagogue demagogue, sure hes good at findin of things. This is have so many people think hes prochoice. Because he is. Also because he is. But, you know he immediately just popped out and was like yeah great. What just happened in alabama is a travesty and i call on the Alabama Legislature to pass a law to protect ivf. Is that going to work . So i think that this isbeginning of the issue for democrats, and not the end of the you saw steve gaines who runs the national senatorial committees candidates up fighting for swing states and put out statements, including terry lake they just want so many babies and pro family and pro ivf so theyreow champions. The fact that the republicans are im sorry, i didnt ask you, does it matter that steve gaines bill granting full constitutional protection for embryos . And mike johnson has the fact, life begins at the as long as donald trump changes and the republicans, they people think i have dementia because i confused nancy pelosi and i change names around and have fun and no one has a sense of humor, so this ivf pivot will help them in the near term, but if the democrats are smart, they will start running ads saying are your in mississippi, are your eggs safe inand they need to do this because it is the logical next question about what authoritarians want a huge menu. They need to be verytrumps been working really hard and might not have known its coming, but hes been working very hard to throw theangelical leadership under the bus on abortion and say were going to loseissue. If theyve already let him do this yeah the iss probably technically over within the movement and within evangelical christrt him nonetheless, but for the democrats, i thinks wide open. I mean these stories, the last couple of days of these women finding out that this had happened to them in this i have two children from my three, foo ind the middle of the course youve spent time and money preparing for and so much emotional duress the injections youuve had to cancelled. The secret youre keeping from your family and coworkers and your friends, hanging the hope on the retrieval, the harvest, the transfer all of these things its so completely overwhelming and the idea theyre sitting in alabama not how to control their future for your family with these embryos freezer somewhere is it knocked me over watching these people and this is a devastating story for them that i insist did not end with trumps truth social post yesterday. Im going to be super dark, but im going to let you first. Youre kidding. So here is the im going to defend nikki again. And she also said that she had her kids via and thats not uncomplicated in the sense i also haveids that were done via ivf, altho lesbians the thing that they tell you when you go to ay clinic is its like you dont suffer from infertility, you suffer from lack of exposure to sperm. [laughter] i call that suffering. [l since were going to get to some of that and then and then, but actually what of a personal story, but i got explicit approval from my wife to tell it we started out under that start of feeling like oh and then we tried for what close to two years and it didnt happen and we had to move to ivf and also we had miscarriages in and it was like its one of the hardest times when you children badly and its not happing, eventually obviously, it worked and now i have two kids boys who i love more tnd i think that like youre messing with something in peoples livesou do this that goes people think like this is your job, tommy tuberville. Tuberville does not get to have a say in the thing thats happening. [applause] so i agree withab. The problem with democrats, they are allergic to you do when you take an issue and say, no r we these guys arent prolife. Th werent prolife during covid. You made this theyre not prolife on taking your kids when theyren its a message there and its up to them to jump on it. [applause] all right, i think this is 10 for democrats. Okay. Whoa. I want to hear it. So donald trump has basically come out and openly defied the furthest elements of prolife, incorporated on this. Ivf is great. Hes called on the Alabama State legislature to rectify this horrible law horrible wrong and pass a law protecting ivf. And nobody from trad prolife world is going to crack back on him. Theyre all going to say its fine. And this is then going to create a haloffect for the rest of the republicans running. Because r you have a split. Some people in the senate are now reversing t pretend they dont like this, but youve got 125 republicans in the house who board with a cosign to a bill that would essentially creatersonhood for embryos. And those people i think, will get to benefit from trumps halo right . Sure my rep says this crazy thing, but i dont have to worry about it because trump, you know trump is really super pro ivf. Do you want me to rit the yeah. Its funny. I took as trumps speech writer on threads and i i bet you 1,000 trump couldnt tell you wha and my understanding is that they take the baby the very small baby some say, even smaller than thejesus, and they inject it right into the mother and its beautiful, its a beautiful thing. We love babies. Maybe not the mexican ones cant say that fake news very upset when you say that, but an ivf should stay in mexican. Do this and every minute that youre litigating this stuff youre not tal ut dobbs. Right, i think its lose lose lose for democrats. And thats sayingould prosecute this case, but if they right about, donald trump is perceived by a cultural moderate by voters and very much misunderstood and here is the thing about why voters 2e think that hes a moderate on abortion they believe he esntngage in any kind of sexual morality. Theyre like look foc groups i dont say this, paid for abortion. They dont think hes like the rest of the part don more popular than the Republican Party perceive him not to be a mike jmoderate. The more like triangulate against that the court that overturned roehe do think this is going to be impo its going to be ing. You have to run agasttrump, but youve g the whole Republican Party. Youve got to run against what it has turned into under trump and mike johnson because when you do that if you canrosecute thatase thinkthat. I mean i just we live in a wor where nobody remembers the ic right . Cans died. Standing out there bleach ivermec and blame trump for it. This is what jbl does to bait me into the website. He publishes other people true. He did a group with pro trump, pro choice women from swing states and they all thought, trump is great, hes right with me i feel good about trump and his position on abortion and when asked the dobbs things dont you maybe think he had something to do they all hated dobbs, they think that dobbs is bad. Three of 15 said maybe trump bore some partial responsibility for it. You know what . That sound about right to me. Ive seen the people i lived with the people. Thats what they think. They cant have all of t things in their heads. Thats true part of the problems with democrats and here is where i think its going to help and be aggressive on it you may have noticed na joe biden i doing great with people age 29 and younger, right . Young folks, remember the focus group we did with the younger people. You know,s like the same age of my grandma and she says a lot of problematic stuff. [laughter] and i think maybe hes like that. And you know so, but the thing that will get those people out, its not going to be joe biden, but it is going to be those issues that its going to be the contrast between joe biden saying ill protect reproductive freedom and prosecute a case against republicans who want to get rid of it and donald trump will point to the justices that overturned roe. It does a lot for the enthusiasm and showing up in his sort of lackluster poll numbers. I think you actually argued this months ago, hes kind of effectively won on the, you know distancing himself from dobbs and the abortion issue. I think its so powerful for the democrats to tie when they try to explain to people and youre right, they have to say, these are the justices that he appointed with posts from him, were going to overturn roe v. Wade and pictures, but ivf is so much more tangible to people when you explain to them what has happened sense dobbs in terms of women withe canith ectopic pregnancies and doctors calling their lawyers. And its complicated unless its been in their community or family or circle of friends, ivf is so much more accessible an issue to tie to dobbs, to talk about dobbs, and to talk about the Supreme Court that he set up to repeal roe v. Wade. And i think its just i think its a slamdunk. You just basically say it doesnt matter what donald trump is telling you, these are the people in red state legislatures theyre coming eventually for birth control, but right now they want your frozen eggs if youre a single woman and your frozen embryos if youre a married couple if youre trying to conceive. They can pretend to fix it, but theyre dystopian and radical to trust the guy i dont think its over as an issue for them. I really dont. And one thing to understand about this race it hasnt started yet. Its not even it feels to us like oh because its already over. Stop it you stop it laughter there are reasons that people run campaigns, there are things that they teach voters who are not paying attention yet and as somebody who talks to a lot of voters theyre not paying attention yet. The dynamics of the upcoming race if you listen to me i talk about it a lot. Its not like persuadables and there are two people that people dont know about. And thats not what the race is about unfortunately. This is why, i talked about not getting exhausted and we had to keep our blood up and energy up because its easy to get like oh i cant believe we areway going to do this again with these two guys and the voters that are persuadable hate both of them. Okay. The persuadable voters this time are different than other times. They are doubledoubters, doublehaters, a pox on both their housers. Its a race who they dislike more and i dont like when things are just about hate. Its not my favorite. But give into the hate jedi. It will make you powerful. Negative hilarity is going to rule the day. The campaigns really going to matter. Joe biden is old, but you know what . He can either be yoda old. At the old . You know what . He can be yoda old, wise there to protect us teach a new generation or he can be name the character, name the character. I dont know the bad guy save it somewhere and now youre trying to do your scifi analogy, but youre not a heard, you cant fake it. Whats the name of it. The emperor. Okay, that guy. This is why i didnt have a girlfriend until i was 30. [laughter] very very nice segue because i was hoping to rope you all very nice people into being codefendants with me with no labels lawsuit. Its not a lawsuit, okay . Listen no label youre all coconspirators to listen to us talking about us. Do you guys know this jbl once on a podcast we were doing, an insane rant against no labels talking anybody involved with no labels should never be able to get a table at spago, they should be just ruined their credibility and it was and i was could go like simmer down simmer down. Just before i was supposed to debate Nancy Jacobson the head of no labels supposed to be a public debate and she used jbls rant to cancel the debate and sent me a note that said i watched your despicable podcast with your despicable cohost who said check true. And then they sent a letter to the department of justice claiming there was a rico conspiracy against no labels that included our podcast and jbl and a bunch of people trying to educate in no labels would have a spoiler candidate effect. And jbl kept calling me am i going to jail. I said buddy, anybody can send a letter to doj. Its not a real thing. Im stereo typed based on my new jersey heritage. So ab. I want to talk about this. Yesterday we had a piece by sergeants in the new york public arguing the bottom is falling out of no labels and manchin pulled the plug on maybe ill run and one is running and thank you, larry hogan for not running as a third party spoiler. What do you think, you took a contrary opinion to greg sergeant. Explain to the people . Im sorry, the new republic piece claims that the effort is in meltdown. Its very wellfunded and wellorganized and already on 16 ballots, which is more than our its intentional and pretty competent and the they wanted Romney Romney would have been obviously the ideal candidate with hogan and manchin out, it clearly looks to the casual observer like its over, but there are other people that theyre pursuing and so at that point your challenge, if you go to a lower tier by a name i. D. Problem, someone who is competent and could appeal, but is not rfk, jr. Or mitt romney or i guess larry hogan, so it doesnt mean that its over and i think that so the theory that its in meltdown is wrong. Theres an interesting kind of theyve just invested so much money i dont think theyre not going to go through with it and dick gep heart and others working against it are trying to get them to back out. No labels said theyll do this if theres a path and they maintained that they dont intend to be a spoiler for trump. The exit ramp for people pushing for, can you get out at the last minute if it looks like its not viable . By july. Thats pretty tricky so you get someone in and you have to work up their name i. D. And thats mid march soon early april the latest and then i dont i just obviously, were in a new world. You know theres a lot concern about this going to the house and becoming a contingent election scenario where the house decides it which i truly believes would break the country in half and burn it down. And that the american electorate is not prepared to accept an election by the house right now. So they have a lot of decision toss make whether they want to go forward. I think like i said because the operation is in drive already that they do that and then yeah at what point do they see a path to 70 which avoids the nightmare house scenario or do they actually give in to the groups trying to dissuade them and say, okay youre right. We did this and this historical effort because we believe that the public so hates biden and trump that they would come on and give our ticket a plurality and then when do they back off . I mean anyway. Have you talked to anybody in this orbit . No, im agnostic im on the outside, ive volunteered with no labels for many years, big believe in what theyve done with the problem solvers in the Senate Coalition of the willing. So the former insider part of the bull bulwark and part of the i want to sayen the audience wed no chips act, no codification of samesex marriage no electoral count act update no infrastructure. Without that group that functions in congress and stays at the table and persuaded a filibuster proof majority in the senate of republican senators to defy their president and give biden all these accomplishments. Im just opposed to the unity. And the fact that theyve done such good work with the Problem Solvers Caucus is actually why its such a bummer theyve decided to shred their credibility through this cycle. Im going to make the pro that they are a meltdown case quickly, which is the idea theyre going to get to 270, i would like to how many electoral delegates does delaware get, three . Three, right . Three. I dont think theyre going to get to three and they put out materials that says theyre going to win a bunch of states. One of those states is delaware. Can you think of anything about delaware that might make it i am plausible that their unity ticket that would be better than joe biden. I can think of a reason that its joe bidens own state for a gill gillion years, and hey, it could be somebody like larry hogan, joe manchin, and the theyre out full meltdown them going to rfk, jr. , weve got access youve got whatever youre doing, the billionaires that funded this thing are not going to like that and not like some btier secondtier candidate so theyre in the potentially trouble making position. I think they can cause trouble about in doing something thats a serious effort. They went from no were going to have all of these delegates and hold a Big Convention in person in april and no. Then were going to hold a zoom convention cool. Now, its like a few Party Insiders are going to pick this person. I think that kind of looks like a meltdown. Anyway enough no labels. One more thing, i wanted you to you said in passing yesterday about the polling and polling showing that third parties really hurt hurt biden, and this speaks to your broader case not building an antitrump coalition. The recent one, you dont like harvard harris. The most recent one, when its straightup trump and biden, trump plus seven. Trump, biden, rfk, trumps lead is bigger and throw in jill stein and cornel west in trump goes up 11. So the more Third Party Candidates you offer, and thats because theyre each appealing to some different part of what would be the antitrump coalition, yes. Would you like to speak to this . Put a quarter in the machine. Double doubters, double haters. If you give them what happens in that situation youre basically causing people to like what voters would talk about is choosing the lesser of two evils, thats how they talk about it. If we had a drinking game and had to drink every time someone said i have to choose the lesser of two evils, wed be dead because people say it. Youre not building a pro Joe Biden Coalition youre building an antitrump of voters. And you give them a unity ticket of joe manchin and larry hogan, those folks are right there, theyre out. But you give them cornel west a lot of sort of disaffected black voters in that group or young voters who are more progressive and it peels them off and anytime you peel off a segment of the people who when push comes to shove of who do i hate more . They choose trump and go biden. You give them off ramps and it fractures the antitrump coalition and thats how this race is lost and so why i have always taken the third party stuff really seriously because with this particular psychology of this race it can do enormous damage. Thank you, thats what i wanted. Were going to end with a big philosophical question, but before that news flash today at cpac at 1 00 the defeated former president will be giving an address, did you guys know that. Yes. And so i will say that once upon a time having a former president who is the pre sumton nominee of his party speaking at a conference for at opening speaker said welcome to the end of democracy we are here to overthrow it completely we did not get there all the way on january 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here. He said raising a fist. That was jack i thought he raised a cross. Oh a cross in his fist so then im cool with it. Never mind. [laughter] so i think it would have been the end of the campaign for the president ial nominee to appear at the same conference that was opened that way. I get the sense thats not the case anymore, maybe im wrong. But so we have advanced look at his, you know an advanced look at the remarks which he may or may not stick to, but i dont know if you saw this this morning, right. So hes going to say four years ago i told you that Crooked Joe Biden got to the white house, our borders would be abolished our middle class decimated and our communities plagued, interesting word by bloodshed, chaos and violent crime, as the saying goes trump was right about everything. Thats not saying. I just wanted you to go i have the trademark and thats not it. [laughter] so hes going to do american carnage again. Hes just going to do american carnage again. And what do you guys is that going to work again . Spoiler, yes it is, but id like to hear what you guys think. So stefanik was saying that democrats destroyed democracy because the 2020 election was unconstitutional and trumps remarks talking with the tyranny of joe biden and thats the mo, and to the voters that were living under fascism and trump always says the socialists communists and fascists in his speeches and turned basically the threat and his party into the criticism of joe biden and the democrats and theyre happy with it theyre raising money on it. The government, were living in a third world country where the government is going after this martyr political poll leader and its terribly effective right now. If hes winning all the polling in the swing states. Theyre not going to let up on it because its working, so everyone should prepare for that. How does i mean i dont want to sound like an elitist, but people are buying a lot of boats. People are even buying sneakers. Theyre buying sneakers and trump nfts, how does that work. And there are a lot of people people and not all of them are buying sneakers. But in the fullness of the economy lets have our fight again. I dont want to fight about the boats or the economy. But what i want to say is like ab said its working right now. I just here is the thing you can come talk to me in four months and if in four months it still looks like this i will hit the panic button. The reason i have not panicked everybody else freaking out even though i said a long time ago, i thought joe biden is indeed old and that is indeed going to be a big problem and just whether the media talks about it or not, the voters have noticed, okay . Theyve noticed. However, right now people know what they dont like about joe biden because he is the president. He is right in front of them and they see it and theyve got their frustrations. Theyve forgotten about donald trump and actually something happening right now because the media, who i actually feel bad for. They sort of cant win in a lot of sense. They say stop broadcasting all of his insane conspiracy theories that el evaluates them and now everybody selfsaying why arent you broadcasting the insane theories nobody knows that he promotes them. All of those things are true and i dont know what to do other than i believe when voters see donald trump more when hes in front of them. When they see how much he hes always been unhinged which is actually to his benefit because the dropoff doesnt seem so pronounced he always sounded like a lunatic like this, but ive listened to swing voters now through multiple cycles and they think its not even democracy or abortion they think hes awful. They think hes a jerk. They do. And i think that when people are snapped into again, as long as theres no third party. As long as theres a head to head competition and it becomes a contrast with trump, i do think that joe biden is going to win. I believe that that scenario exists. I do not think we have to be like [applause] and the other thing ill say in the contrast, but, again, why prosecuting this case is so important, the democrats have done a pretty good job in part because of responding to the Republican Party thats been driving itself off a cliff of not putting theres a bunch of people on the Democratic Party now who are like very normal. Josh shapiro in pennsylvania is a normal guy. The progressives taking down the william penn statue. What are you talking about . And joe biden was like yeah were not doing that stop it. And Gretchen Whitmer is a normal person and so is Elissa Slotkin and barrel and a bench much now, those people have got to come out and become sewer surrogates for the Democratic Party otherwise its going to be gavin newsom and i dont like gavin newsom thats about me a me problem, but theres a much better version of the Democratic Party to show theres a future case to make and contrasting that with Marjorie Taylor greene and Lauren Bobert and matt gaetz, and that contrast if you show it to people. And theres no tool like donald trump back in the public eye. Media if youre listening, show trump in all of his glory, voters need to see it. [applause] all right. So were going to bump up against time, but i want to do a philosophical. What happens next . I mean so were going to im going to eat lunch. Were going to hit an Inflection Point in eight months where one of three things will happen right . Donald trump will win the election fair and square and become president. You know one pathway. Joe biden will win the election and will wind up sworn in again after whatever happens because i just assume that you know there will be challenges again. There will be stop the steal two will be much better organized than stop the steal one. And the third option is that biden wins and then the Election Results are overturned possibly through legal means, right. I mean we would say illegitimate, but perfectly legal. You could send alternate slates of election and create confusion and then the electoral count reform act is taken before the Supreme Court, really do they have power, are they allowed you have to squint a little bit, but not all that much. So my question to you guys is where do these three path ways lead and if you wind up on one of the two pathways where trump loses, is there a line that republicans wont cross . Like is there is there mike pencism, the Great American hero . Im serious about that. I will fight anybody who wants to take bad about mike pence. Is there anybody is there force for that left in the party . So there. So you do your thing and ill make everybody want to hang themselves before they go to lunch. Lunch. So i think that i want to end on a high note for me which is that i just believe that nikki haley, who is a through and through phony because i didnt do my nikki haley South Carolina thing, matter what shes doing in this race the fact that people are giving her money to injure trump for the general election matters to me and the cause. Shes finally speaking the truth and she cannot back away from it and i dont believe that shes going to endorse trump and tim and jb and 35 she wont. So im really im clinging to this now, that shes not going to and whether she believes that there is in the event after trump defeat a revival of some kind of new, you know a boomerang and finally saying once again, with trump we lose and she at that point is better situated than ron desantis she believes that shes the champion of the peeloff faction, i believe that there will i want to hope this senator john thune and senator john cornyn and people will stand up if trump loses and were in to stop the steal professional version, stand up and say, im out. Im done actually this election was as safe and legal as the and secure as the last one. There are many we know elise and theyll run around and im hoping a tiny crusty slice what was once the establishment and paul ryan will be one now, who says this is bull im out. I dont know that means that there is any hope for separate from a real group turning into the post defeat trump party i dont know that that means anything i so hope that there are a few that just say, im done and once he starts stopping the steal. [applause] this is why nobody can get tired. This is why nobody can decide to i dont know im just a pox on both their houses, i dont feel like dealing with it. Sometimes when i really want to throw in my own day, i sit there and im like one for jbl. Yeah i call jbl. I do like trumps fantasy cabinet. John eastman who tried to overturn the last election would probably be the head of the justice department. With clark. People who tried to overturn it. Mattises, kellys, everything who kept it on the rail. Nobody is joining the administration. Who he chooses as his vicepresident is not mike pence or somebody who says if your scenario Kamala Harris is the vicepresident who makes it harder for the electors stealing things around fyi in that scenario. I dont think people are alarmed i dont think its american carnage. You talk about burning the boats in the good way that i think that nikki haley is in the good way. Theres a good and bad way. And some are saying im going to ride this trump thing to the end and im going to do whatever i want and punish my enemies and were all getting audited in this room if trump is the at a minimum. At minimum. And so i sort of try to anytime i feel tired i hold those scenarios in my head to think about just how bad it could be and the thing is its not just most of the people in congress who would have stood up to him the last time theyre gone. Theyve all been run out. There is Brad Raffensperger in georgia, theres steven richer in Maricopa County in arizona, theres, i mean kemp in georgia you could probably count on to do the right thing, in fact, im sure you could. But its a dwindling number of people that will stand up and so thats why its on us to do the hard things in in moment and push one more time except hell be the 2028 nominee, too, probably. But lets push one more time. [applause] all right, you know what . That was so good that as my gift to all of you, i wont tell you why shes wrong and that were all doomed. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming out to the show. We really appreciate it. [applause] [applause] all right. Were through the first quarter, thank you. Well now break for lunch. Just a note when you come back from lunch there will be three panels outside, principles first banner with lincoln on it feel free to sign that with one of our sharpies we have sharpies out there,