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Group in the primary purpose is the Iranian Nuclear program neck you can watch the rest of this program if you go to cspan now you up. U. S. Israel alliance hosted by the Heritage Foundation here in washington d. C. Thank you all for joining us today for this profoundly timely event on the 75th anniversary of u. S. Israel alliance, i like to start with the prayer. Heavenly father, pray for our friends in israel and all americans that they stand with our israeli friends and the jewish people in this terrible time, we pray for your guidance and wisdom as we go through these discussions today and not only celebrate anniversary is required. The timing of this event because we have been talking about this for two years so we hoped to have it this may and i was upset what was rescheduled and felt like i failed but to be able to join together today and talk about these topics, talk about u. S. Israel Security Alliance and antisemitism two weeks after the horrific responsibility for heritage to host these discussions and i am excited to hear what everyone has to say and hopefully engage in the spirit looking at the next 25 years and what can come of this. One other quick thing i want to mention is october 23, 40th anniversary of the their and date that is powerful for me because the day after the 24th, my former boss got the call to come to washington and manage the crisis afterwards so working after his retirement on that topic was my introduction to the middle east and introduction to terrorism referred to bomber, a smiling death the trust pulled into the barracks the bombers were smiling and does chilling for us as we contemplate the horrible beds of october 7 the we with which they carried out the atrocity so clearly we have our work cut out for us and we are fortunate to have representation that it is my pleasure to introduce my friends, previously served as chief of the Israeli Ministry of foreign affairs, we have history together going back a few years. A distinguished career including both china and the United States so join me in welcoming commission regimen. [applause] thank you for having me today. Thank you senator ernest or being with us. We gather here today to look at the 75 years of client israel and states. When we have things happening, not a Single Person in this room imagine 75 years of Israel Jewish people experienced this deadly act since the holocaust. October 7, hamas initiated this. October 7 should have been a joyful day celebrating the jewish holiday but instead we were confronted with devastating reality of almost unprovoked attacks. 1400 people massacred. Over 4000 wounded and about 210. Amongst them american citizens killed, injured, objective. You are person impacted my own brother lives adjacent to the border was important in the house for my brother just outside the window hoping nobody would come. They managed to escape only to learn later on the front two houses down were gunned down and lost the family. Israel is war and maybe a long one. Israel didnt choose to start this war but we will react in the International Law. Israel is working hard to evacuate harms way is doing and sure innocent civilians are, attacks against immunity is a work in unity of anyone especially uninvolved hamas is not allowing his provide aid or informational is alive and who is not like to take the opportunity to call everyone of you and call about the movies immediately. Make no mistake, like every other nation in the, israel has the right and duty to defend against brutality of terrorism individual analysis eliminated we will not and should not encouraging. Israels northern border hezbollah responsible for all from care. Destructive war, israel doesnt wish to have war but we are prepared to do what it takes to negate any threat that comes our way. President biden said dont. We have seen the medias portrayal, is critical the United States continues to support and stand shoulder to shoulder with israel as a test for 75 years. They after all creation played our two countries that freedom of Democracy Movement to oppose terrorism. The bidens visit expresses support for israel i said visits about his numbers and u. S. Military support was significant demonstration in the United States and israel joining in coordination support of the west is recent military support. Toward the goal. Strategic continue to stand against care coordination with longstanding allies. Congress exhibited a remarkable display of partisan support for israel lawmakers on both sides of the aisle came together to underscore the commitment to israels security right to defend itself. Promising life is legislative recognized situation overwhelming show of support the rising tide of antisemitism in the United States is concerning underscores the critical importance of clinical grade discrimination and hatred toward jewish communities not only threatened the wellbeing of wish for principals of current inclusivity notice take dans work. Raising awareness, the public and taking appropriate action to confront this issue you can work toward a Safer Society safety and security of the jewish communities across the country. Demonstration against israel we see no equals supporting, israeli folk with little time to properly mourn yet despite overwhelming sorrow we have resolute refusing care israel has demonstrated Remarkable Community and resilience and have come together. In the midst of conflict uncertainty the nation. Solidarity religious divide in all walks of life. The chronicle of our homeland. Our people and the Political Leadership to ensure the Nation Security and the defense is expanding over the prices for people to come to the unwavering determination exhibited by israel throughout this challenging. The nations resilience our ability and strong. Something we cannot do the United States. Toward the future and it remains substantial for the only regional between United States and israel strategic significance stitcheds geopolitical landscape fostering bipartisan consensus on shared value and it will be pivotal. We do thank you for ongoing support and support Going Forward. Seventyfive years celebration is changed. Seventyfive years together is a clear message to get. [applause] thank you very much please send all greetings are phones in jerusalem. I like to begin our first panels Israel Security doing incredible work in the Senate Armed Services committee, a distinguished member and is back from the first u. S. Election official on the ground,. [applause] also welcome the director of the national defense, moderating our discussion and i will serve as your second panel. [applause] u. S. Provided israel with 155 security domain and a lot of to address which it has been. The most preeminent capability and its been tested many times and you all know its been tested again. The attack on october 7 with the most deadly israels history and most of the attack against u. S. Americans since 9 11 so in this we are not merely observers, we are because of the city the first question i ask, because israel who recipient Additional Resources following israels second declaration of war. How porn has our investment been . Thank you for this incredibly victorious time and its very important and support israel now more so than ever. I will take off a couple of weeks when i was on the ground and israel i had already embarked on congressional delegation trip to the middle east and started in the uae and the bicameral delegation in saudi arabia and go into israel joining in conversation at the regional conference. We were just leaving saudi arabia we heard about israel. Maybe like many of you when i woke up that morning to find out about a rocket attack, he said we cant go into israel. Israel is being attacked by hamas and by thought was, we could wait a few hours, we should be able to go in not understanding the severity of attacks, this is not normal because israel is attacked all the time from gaza, this was a daily occurrence of the rockets into israel. This was an all out onslaught against israel and as we got back door, it became more and more clear by we need to continue supporting israel. We were able to push into israel on the tenth of october much to the chagrin of our state department traveling into israel but the folks on the ground were so thankful we were there and able to stand sidebyside with the Prime Minister and stand with the people of israel and against these horrific attacks but a mosque so as we look at this, the simple answer is more important than ever but not only do we need to do on the defense of israel, i would say its much harder against iran as well because a lot of this comes directly out of a red. Thank you very much, sonia, i know your visit meant a great deal to our partners and allies cannot stay our attention. Israel is in the final stages of a long anticipated Ground Invasion to destroy hamas and the. The administration asking for delays, what should we be doing to support our partners and allies. I think right now when all israelis and americans need to hear an unequivocal message of support for israels right to selfdefense, its become something of a talking. , what does it need . Israel has the right with help of fear of thousands of, terrorist across the border on a random saturday, supposed to be a holiday. Whats clear to me as we gather information on that terrible day, we are still getting updates as they justify more bodies, stark contrast between good and evil here, there are no shades of gray. Theres good and theres evil s. I think what we need to do is United States is put on jersey, i think we should put on white jersey in this case and get in the fight. Obviously the hostage situation is profoundly difficult in a uniquely horrific way. We have israeli and american citizens and citizens from other countries as well, they didnt ask for the cap floods, they just took them back to gaza and i know it is weighing on everyones heart heavily at the same time, israel cannot live with this threat and unless it is eradicated now, we will wind up in a situation where it could happen again and that is ultimately intolerable saw when the senators experience last discussions that go on, many elements of the u. S. Government would be involved, it would be a complex operation but i think the message needs to be simple but the u. S. And israel stand together the matter could not agree more especially on the stark contrast between good and evil knowing what was perpetrated. It could not be more part. Senator, you mentioned iran and we know from secretary austin testimony in march from january 21, iran into surrogates and proxies launched 83 attacks against u. S. Forces to which we only responded four times and in the last seven days we been attacked an additional eight times by iranian proxies in syria and iraq. What should we be doing and calling for to address this . I would say having been a soldier serving in that region, rules of engagement anytime we went into iraq if you are fired upon, iraq. Why are we not doing that as United States of america . Anytime we have a terrorist group born coming after our men and women, american citizens, we need to retaliate, go back and go back hard. We need to make sure these other countries, terrorist proxy groups know and understand that but what we have seen is an administration of appeasement. They will do what i can to get on the bad side of authoritarian regime to get on the bad side of terrorists heaven. In addition to everything they can to get the agreement with karen going against. A promise continuing down the path of appeasement, 6 billion of assets which i think hamas and attacks on israel seen this administration not enforce sanctions already in place. Iranian oil exports are at a fiveyear high sale of only goes to fund, polysemy islamic jihadists, has a Senior Administration do everything they can make life easier for canadian people that essentially what they have done is make the mission of a mosque others much easier to think that both death to america and death to israel so happy get our efforts in Congress Democratic partners as well not just all democrats wish to do everything for a man, thats not true. We do have good partners at the do support is relevant i will call more and more on partners to push back against the administration and appeasement of heaven. Grateful for your leadership on this, its most welcome and incredibly gratifying. It is difficult to understand and appreciate why we are not responding to unparalleled revocation. Our time of the white house one of our efforts was successfully concluded in 20202 bring israel within the responsibility for circumstances like this. In your view, how has not helped the u. S. And israel prepare for what may be the regional escalation . I may be taking my life into my hands by lecturing you remember i was when i learned israel pleasant yukon, not centcom. It seems so discordant to me and there were a lot of reasons, they wanted to observe nato and the real reason came out, it was basically the military club and they were unwilling to allow israelis and it doesnt make any sense. The positive things will during the trump administration, the court reaching new lease agreements for 25 years between israel and arab neighbors in maybe we can rectify this and as we go in the next 25 years of the relationship, israel is seen as part of it region where it is located. It might seem symbolic but i think it is critical because arrangement and having is written yukon is one thing that allows others is survival not even the right place and i think writing the lungs, recognizing israeli territory moving the visa powerful messages have United States to help others clarity now happened as we look at Regional Response to the seven, everyone is disappointed we are not getting one support the arab world would be nice but its not terribly nice but with a really need is arabs not to attack israel be removed they are pretty much doing that. Reality check by this move can hopefully, Going Forward lay the foundation for real Regional Security architecture that would include israel and it would be central as the power projection for the United States so thats why that was important and can be a linchpin of what we do Going Forward connecting we have seen positive comments from Israeli Security establishment and the United States and is long overdue. It has made a tremendous impact on formation which is incredibly vital. There is i think fear and trepidation regional escalation and conflict in this part of the world that has been systemic. We have seen not that long ago the Biden Administrations disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. 83 billion of equipment reported control over the same group we took it from which as to that hesitancy and we know under then Vice President biden and general often, in 2011 set the stage for isis and training control over iraq. You see and no reluctance well, what is the best way of making those that are concerned about the conflict understand need for the United States to be involved but also the importance of israel in the region and support under these trying times . It is extremely important and stability in the region they truly are there you sure we dont continue to see the growth of the organization under iran, they are the ones that provide stabilization and continuation of safety in that region, they are pushing back against iran so it is incredibly important we continue to support israel also dropped the Abraham Accords and not only do we continue to focus on these efforts with israel but also tie in all other Abraham Accords that sign onto the agreement and pull in saudi arabia because in arab nations, saudi arabia is there so we need to make sure we continue on the peace agreement. I have heard people say dead and gone, never coming back, that is not true. The delegations. After we had our discussion, we left feeling first about the direction the kingdom wanted to go. They realized if they want prosperity for their people, if they want greater Educational Opportunity for their people, israel be part of the equation. Peace needs to be part of the equation. The one thing iran pierces peace in the region because of these countries coming together provide a four seconds i will pivot back, victoria laid out dutifully by the nations need to come together and how we work together. Part of that is Security Cooperation in the region and because of the Abraham Accords working with the kingdom as well, we have been able to put in place through congress my efforts on the defendant act and we are working on the maritime act now and it allowed us to pull together intelligent from all of these nations to provide an integrated air and Missile Defense systems so this is Early Morning to those nations now tied together in the air Missile Defense and it allowed us to push against the rockets, any missiles from iran or proxies. Collaborating with all of these countries incredibly important body peace and stability in the region allows us to have peace and stability in the United States of america. Any time these actions happen, make no doubt about it, it is going to impact the United States of america. We cant turn a blind eye. Ill give one example, we cannot turn a blind eye and we must be prepared and make sure friends and allies are also prepared to make theres no question cant thank you enough for both pieces of legislation under the current circumstances is vital and we have embassies that provide facilities so the production of our own vital. He mentioned Abraham Accords 902 the audience questions. I think they hold promise for the future, how to be a grain momentum of Abraham Accords and build an explanation from the security perspective, how to rebuild Security Architecture . I think we start by not accepting the premise of the terrorists, which is at peace instead project that have handled the conversation going through the United States congress and Congress Continues to support these strongly. I have been thinking back to the summer of 2017 when we were first in the white house and terrible troubles and President Trump actually intended to go through with it. As violence flared and things seemed to break down, it seemed impossible but what came out about was the recognition, increasingly over from no longer giving the palestinians veto over National Security, they could not condone any longer violence, particularly against civilians which was not consistent with what they practice so in this case being very clear about the nature of what the palestinians have done, do you really want to be associated with that or do you want to chart a path to peace . There is a reason these conversations becoming so formed between israel and saudi arabia and we saw the interviews in september and the Prime Minister of israel talking so openly about the process into a Movement Toward peace. We can get back there because as we dont get terrorists the veto, we dont get iranians detail and we continue to show the huge benefits of these relationships arabs and israelis alike make sure Everybody Knows it is top priority for the United States. I think it is important not to forget the fact that there is little sympathy they have all admitted in her own right thing that is more sympathy in israel for this and appreciate. At this time but would love to invite you for questions, with microphones in both aisles and we will work in sequence and then go to that if you would, please state your name and affiliation and to whom you question is directed. Thank you for your comments. President of american friend, i want to say we stand with israeli people it is rampant that history we have a lot of conversations about every and rightly so, the backing of these organizations how about the relationship between turkey, is it is a native ally and almost, for most as a headquarters inside turkey, thomas has openly stated and tweeted how moss is not a terrorist organization so what does it look like the United States as far as enforcing that with turkey . We tend to do as turkey says history turkey doesnt do what we say get turkey into new receive backing because it is shielded by nato. A consulate was attacked, there is a lot of pro, protests inside of what is the United States reaction and how do you think is real should react to this . Thank you for your question. I would simply say that our Administration Needs to step up efforts and put a lot of political pressure on everyone and turkey and disassociate themselves with hamas and declare them as a terrorist organization. Unfortunately this administration, they are trying anyway they can to appease everyone they can as victoria stated, this is not a great area, is either black or white and we need our president and all those who work in this administration to make that very clear. These are adversaries, terrorist organizations so it could not be clearer but unfortunately until this administration wakes up, we are not going to seek political pressure we can build and congress and push back where we can so we need a strong leader at this time. We dont have a strong leader at this time that mark. We had been encouraged recently and historically positive aspects going to a terrible crisis but everyone had something of a change of attitude over the last few years and it seemed like it was much less and could potentially get back to a better place that senator ernst, this will have to be cleared up. Thank you for your question. I spent 40 years in various parts of the first trip to israel and jerusalem and my question is, each of you, viewed as a possibility of one state or two state solution . Eight like it has to be done or the other and thus israeli constitution or whatever, they affect, or speculate, pelosi to state working very well either so that each of you get comments on back . I wrote an oped today, my title was right. Perhaps more userfriendly title by the editor but until palestinians except there is no plan a, there can be no peace so i agree it is hard to see any solution to this the reason i went ten years ago in 1923 he wrote an essay called the iron ball in which he makes the observation if arabs think they can eradicate the jews, but as always plan a and they think that is possible, they will not move on to plan b and what we found with the Abraham Accords was it not only have certain arab countries accepted that the jews would not go away but they realized they didnt want them to go away that was what led to that leap forward. Palestinians obviously are not there yet. Seven tells us anything, they are still fed the lie that genocide is possible in the holy land and that is what they will pursue our goal now is to convince them there is no plan, they have to move on to plan b if they want to survive as functioning entity so i would say we need to shift before we can get to any practical solution. I dont have much more to add, i think that was beautifully put. Our waging war against israelis, this is their mission in life. This is what they were raised to do and until that changes, im not sure what the bafflement is. Thank you for the question, im sure it is shared by many. We can get a microphone here. Thank you for convening this panel. I had the pleasure of hearing the briefing in my professional winterization when things were more hopeful of the Abraham Accords, i wanted to ask about this topic, what has to happen practically regarding development on the ground for the Abraham Accords to move away from their current visual posture . Is a lot of hope including the people to people level, cultural exchanges, academic exchanges and also a move away from antisemitism as well, what has to happen to build up that momentum again . I defer to senator ernst coming back. Certainly, thank you. Just from from a number of leaders, theres a lot more we asked United States need to do because i will give an example with the arab emirate, he stated that she entered into the Abraham Accords, they would continue with cultural exchanges, Education Opportunities israel but they expected the United States would engage heavily in those as well. What we have seen in the course of the last several years ago the level of engagement they expected so we have seen this administration not fully embrace the abraham of court, they let them fester a little more so, he ran towards come to fruition with the promise to these arab nations we would be all type in happy collaboration has not come to fruition. It was disappointment and he let me know that so because of the void created by the United States of america, they turn to others out there to fill that void and if we can think of who is filling the void, the United States is not engaging, as china so they are turning to the east and engaging more with china in the United States of america and i think because we havent engaged like we should have with a number of key important nations they dont feel compelled to stand behind israel and that is where the failure of leadership is showing on the world stage right now. We need to engage more and not just take for granted some of these incredible opportunities with our arab friends and neighbors. I would echo senator ernst need for robust decisive American Leadership has never been more clear. We had these two and a half years of the Biden Administration in 2021, 2022 we had ukraine. 2023 we had israel, are we going to face another massive crisis next year in International Affairs . One that brings to mind that one. There could be any number of others so we are approaching project 2025, our role is simply to show the clear policy differences emerging on these issues and make a case that leadership is going to be critical and hopefully we will be able to get behind a candidate that will demonstrate that should. We have time for two more questions. Well head to the lady in the back, second question. Thank you so much, very insightful. I come from an International Organization that works in latin america. We are worried getting the extent of influence countries in our region. How is the United States planning to engage the whole reached especially when president publicly expressed support for . I think that is the question and one too often ignored. We have seen iranian backed terrorist strike in latin america have seen a plot to strike in the United States including a plot in washington to assassinate then master to the United States, mollo. How Many Americans would have died there . Its one reason we have declared Border Security one of the seven key priorities because its a Huge National security own ability and what we need to do is first get under control to prevent bad actors from creeping across the government will also see the security and regional like minded countries can collaborate pool resources and not on the Southern Command present us with placements on a piece of people where our adversaries are locating around the globe, if you look at top and Central America and influence of iran, russia and china, they are everywhere. We dont Pay Attention to that. This is where i will put on my Armed Services committee for bullies, that subcommittee has oversight operations command. These men and women are deployed all around the globe and work with local populations and create stabilities and this administration as we look at recruiting and retention challenges and funding challenges with a budget, we see the administration asking to draw down the number of people. We look at about 4000 troops these other guys and gals the blood everywhere around the world they divert those forces that might cause us to engage conventional action. We would rather use our individual push back on those adversaries concentra america. Your question . What do you think of the impact of the negative role are woke military has played in emboldening our enemies called muslim allies in particular to distance themselves from the current administration, even frustration . Im going to jump on. I think it contributes a number of different ways. We can look at this from all the angles. Recruiting retention issue is most certainly woke does contribute a little but i want to give an inch of big priorities of this administration with our military and that was in electrification of non tactical by 2035 so they want to put in place albert and as soon as the nontechnical employees move on to the rest of the military. Are you kidding me . Electric vehicle for military, all Transportation Company commander in iraq, i cant imagine rolling a convoy to iraq asking excuse me, where is your target station . It doesnt work and this is what america looks at mothers and fathers out there say theres no way i want my child to engage in this military with this ideology and then adversaries are looking at us and they are laughing. China laughing all the way to the bank because they are producing vehicles and the batteries for those liberals but they look at us and say look at them, they focus on electric vehicles, not ensuring they have the most lethal force in the face of the planet. My daughter is and i want to know we have a leader concerned about her welfare training and equipping her if she got forward from day she comes home safe but thats not what this administration is doing and you Better Believe our adversaries are looking at it. [applause] we do have time for more questions. Excuse me. A retired member. S. Diplomatic services. You all spoke about the money over the years is not a oneway street. This is a partnership between our two countries. It has very real world benefits to the American People. You look at a system like iron dome which was originally exclusively israeli intellectual property supported obviously by the United States congress but in the recent modernizations of iron dome its become joint intellectual property. And my personal favorite missiledefense system davids sling was a joint project from the beginning. So were developing these things together. It means our militaries are very interoperable. They are trading on the same equipment and obviously we do a lot of massive training exercises with them, which to keep the American People safe. And so i see this very much as a practical investment which is born significant profits for the american taxpayer. You can have your moral case for israel, but i generally try to refer to the purely practical and say that this is something that is usually in our best interest. And if we cant over the course of the next 25 years build that out, that partnership to become a Regional Partnership even better for both of our people. And i will just give a quick example on this as well. The systems that are developed and employed in israel, they are developed jointly with israelis and engineers are in the United States and defense contractors. And in my little Tiny Community back home in iowa, i i grew un a town of about 700 people, one of the ladies that i go to church with, her son who graduated a number of years after me from the same high school, but he is a grown man now. He is an engineer and he actually is an engineer on the iron dome project. So there is far, far reaches across the United States and the number of people and type of people that are employed by these projects so i would concur with victoria, i think its a practical as well. And has yielded benefits over the years and perhaps in the next couple of days and weeks we will be even more evident just how important how vital that cooperation and joint development is your we will go to the gentleman behind you and then over to your question. John dickson, global peace foundation. What drives me crazy, i was active with afghanistan and after that horrible withdrawal my colleague partner finally got out at the last minute with his wife, sisterinlaw and two voice. They stayed with me. He watches very carefully. He was an advisor to president gandhi and says americans to giving a taliban tens of millions of dollars of mine. I know we give money all over the place, People Like Us and especially i think in gaza even and humanitarian aid. We know all this money is fungible and its not it doesnt help our status with these people. It empowers our enemies and nobody says even thank you. It will always be taken with resentment and doesnt make People Like Us more. But less. I cant understand why we continue to do it. And i dont quite understand dash i dont of all the numbers, im getting old but i know its not money well spent. Its money would borrow from china to give and its counterproductive and i think it works always against us, is what it seems like to me. I wonder if anybodys watching that . I will address this, becaue this is where ive been very critical of dollars that of gandhi usaid, and in no victoria just mentioned this. Weve had discussions about this. And john, if youre followed some of my pushback in recent months, it is on the taxpayer dollars going to usaid, usaid didnt have enough people to do contracts to push dollars out for humanitarian aid in ukraine. So what did they do . They sent the money to the United Nations. Are you kidding me . We can track it if he goes to the United Nations, and russia has Decisionmaking Authority over where it goes when it goes to the United Nations. So ive been very critical of this, and it do believe that in some of these cases, some of the countries like any case of ukraine and russia our European Partners could better deliver on humanitarian aid than we can. And in the case of israel and gaza, maybe some of those arab nations can better deliver upon humanitarian aid. Perhaps in egypt. Egypt would just open the border to women and children, all of them to come and other nations to support humanitarian needs. I think the United States of america, lets focus on what we do best. And that is developing the weapons needed. I say weapons not welfare. Thats my catchphrase. Lets put it on a bumper sticker. We can beat arsenal of democracy and we should be but we need to invest in our Defense Industrial base and we need to ramp up, make sure that we number one, we are strong in what we need for our armed forces, and it worked to support our partners and allies as well. But we really need to scrutinize the humanitarian aid thats going overseas and make sure that our adversaries dont have access to it. I would just add to that that congressman roy and i get an oped in the National Review at the end of july about the upheaval in the course of writing that looked into how much money has been funneled into particularly cows but also other palestinian entities. Its over a billion dollars. The old assumption sort of conventional wisdom is this would change hearts and minds, that over time it would allow palestinians to build a society for themselves, that it up or interest in preserving fat than employing of israel. And we tested that hypothesis in the Top Administration when the president directed the cutoff of all aid to the palestinians after Mahmoud Abbas distasteful 27 teen speech to the United Nations General Assembly in accordance with u. S. Law of people engaged 2017 virulent antiamerican rhetoric should i get taxpayer money. The assumption was that then this would cause tremendous unrest but we didnt get an massive spectacular terrorist attack like what we saw and october 7. And when the spigots were turned back on a sickly immunity by the Biden Administration and weve had this billion dollars float in followed by the hundred million announced by the president , some amount of the supplemental that they requested in the humanitarian pot of about 9 billion, somewhere between zero and 9 billion is supposed to go into gaza. This is just not only is a throwing good money after bad at a time of fiscal crisis but its obviously counterproductive. It led to a massive, horrible terrorist attacks acclaimed american lives. And we just cant continue to fund this. An excellent question. As you can see there are strongly held views on the panel about it and rightly so. I think youre the last question. Thank you. Just to bring attention back to the home for a little bit. I noticed in some polling results they came out over the weekend americans are really, really concerned that the increase in violence between hamas and israel with the Current Crisis of the southern border will lead to potential threats directly on, directly in america and on american soil. Im wondering what kind of policies you all think the to be in place or what kind of discussion we should be having right now to make sure we keep the conflict contained a broad. Obviously securing the southern border is key, whether it was the unrest in the middle east for anything that you see coming from south Central American. With so many foreign nations that are pouring across our southern border. This is been going on the entire time joe biden has been president. So not only do we need to secure the border but then we need to really address the policies that allowing people to stay in the United States and to enter freely. And our asylum laws, this got to change. They have got to change and where to figure out a way to stop people before they enter into the United States. Again i think use diplomatic push with the number of the countries that are on the way into the United States working with their government as well will be key to this. I would say lets just replicate everything that President Trump had done during his administration, remain in mexico policy, changing our asylum laws, whatever it might happened to be but weve got to enforce our Border Security. We are not have a problem at the southern border now but they are also realizing they can come across our northern border. Its becoming more of a problem and its because we have this wide open door policy that President Biden has enabled that puts us in jeopardy here in the United States. I guess i would just add to the excellent point for many disturbing things about the prohamas demonstrations and we have all seen across the country, the blatant antisemitism which i know will be addressed in the next panel, but also the numbers of people who are sympathetic to hamas and their sort of, their methods for want of a better word that are already present in our country. And are not shy. Maybe the most disturbing was new york yesterday and the day before in which these groups came together and started attacking the police. Now theyre throwing eggs and water bottles. When does it become worse than that . We have are concerned with securing the border of course. Weve got to be concerned with what i would hear. The cbp been released about the ones they know that were encountered and are all from countries with potential exposure to terrorism. And thats just what we know. So i think we have to be enormously vigilant and concerned about, about whats here and what might already be planning, planning mischief. Theres no question convalescent five years of an eventful. They have marked in many ways close cooperation between the United States and israel. We have covered a fair bit of background and brought into current circumstances. I have only three things left to do. First, with the help please lets think our panelists for fr the tremendous contribution and the leadership on this issue. [applause] second, is preview the next panel which will resume after the break which is on enriching the u. S. Alliance by combating antisemitism which will be moderated by the inevitable Ellie Cohanim. And the last is to welcome you all to a 15 minute break, asking you to reconvene at 2 30. Again, thank you all very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] this forum looking at the use Israel Alliance currently in a short break. It is been posted by the Heritage Foundation here in washington, d. C. Washington, d. C. Live coverage on the cspan2. Joining us today for this profoundly timely event on the 75th anniversary of the u. S. Israel alliance. I would like to start with a prayer. Heavenly father, we pray for all of our friends in israel. We pray for all americans, that they stand with our is really friends in with the jewish people in this terrible time. We pray for your guidance and wisdom as we go through these discussions today, and not only celebrate the 75th anniversary of u. S. Israel alliance, but look forward to the 100th. Amen. So i did mention something kind of providential about the timing of this event because Ellie Cohanim and ive been talking about this for two years. And so we had actually helped to have this may, and i was upset when it got rescheduled and felt like i had failed, but to be able to join together today and talk about these topics, to talk about the u. S. Israel Security Alliance, and the scourge of antisemitism two weeks after the horrific attacks of october 7 is a huge privilege and responsibility for heritage to host these discussions. And im very excited to hear what everyone has to say, and hopefully engage in this in the spirit of looking at the next 25 years and what can come of this. One other quick things i wanted to mention, it being october 23, this is is also the 40th anniversary of the beirut barracks bombings. And its a date that is been very powerful for me because the day after on october 24, my former boss don rumsfeld got the call from then secretary of state George Shultz to come to washington to meet with president reagan to become his middle east envoy and to manage the crisis afterwards. So working with secretary rumsfeld after his retirement on that topic was in many ways my introduction to the middle east and my introduction to terrorism. He always referred to the bomber by i think there was a quote about this at the time, as smiling death, that the truck bomb pulled into the barracks. The driver was smiling. And that is so profoundly chilling for us as we do contemplate the horrible events of october 7. And the glee with which the terrorists apparently carried out their atrocities, that this is unchanged over the last 40 years. So clearly we have our work cut out for us. We are very fortunate today to have representation from the embassy of israel and is my great pleasure to introduce my friend, the deputy chief of mission who previously served as the chief of the Mideast Bureau at the Israeli Ministry of foreign affairs. So with something of a history together. Going back a few years. He had an extraordinarily distinguished career at the msa, including tours at both cut in both china and previously in the United States. So if you can all join me in welcoming deputy chief of mission benjamin. [applause] thank you, victoria, for those kind words. Thank you for having me. I would like to thank robert greemway as was victoria for putting this thing together. Thank you, senator ernst for being with us. Conroy, ambassador lauder who will you will hear from a bit later as well. We gather here today to talk about the 75 years of alliance between israel and the United States. Something i was speaking to the tree about a year ago when this was in the planning and when we had Different Things happening in different ideas. Not a Single Person in this room ever imagined that 75 years of israel, the jewish people would experience the most horrific and deadly attack since the holocaust. On the morning of october 7, 2023, hamas initiator and unprovoked war against the state of israel. October 7 should have been a festive and joyful day for jewish people celebrated the jewish holiday, instead, we were confronted with devastating reality of hamas unprovoked attacks. Over 1400 people have been massacred. And lost. Over 4000 wounded, and about 210 people have been kidnapped. We still dont know the actual number. Amongst them were also american citizens killed, injured, abducted. Thankfully, have been released. For me like most israelis weve been personally impacted. My own brother lives adjacent to the crossing on the border of gaza. Together with his wife and for my kids they spent 12 hours in their safe room in your house. My brother with his pistol outside of the window hoping nobody would come. They finally found a narrow window of opportunity and they managed to escape only to learn later on that the friends and neighbors two houses down were gunned down completely, entire family. Israel is at war, and it may be a long one. Its not another round of violence. Israel didnt choose to start this war, but we will end it. As we respond the idf one of the worlds most moral militaries will act in accordance with the International Law and ethics. Israel is working hard to evacuate innocent civilians out of harms way while hamas is doing everything it possibly can to ensure innocent civilians are in harms way. Hamas, isis brutal attacks constitute gross violation of International Law as well as severe crimes against humanity. This is a war of humanity against evil, the abduction of anyone especially of innocent uninvolved civilians including women, children, and elderly is a grotesque war crime. Hamas is not allowing representatives of the red cross to even visit the hostages or provide them with humanitarian aid or even information of who is a bear, who was alive, and who is not. I would like to take this opportunity to call on every single one of you here and on the screens to call about their release immediately. Make no mistake, like every other nation in the world, israel has a right and, in fact, the duty to defend its citizens against the brutality of terrorism. We will ensure the hamas war machine is eliminated. And for that we will not and should not apologize. As for israels northern border, hezbollah is responsible for all the act of terrorism coming from lebanon, choosing to enter the conflict through the still lebanon into destructive war. Israel doesnt wish to have multiple front war with hezbollah but we are prepared to do whatever it takes to negate any threats that come our way. As President Biden said, dont. As we have racing the medias portrayal of the war has shifted its critical the United States continues to support and stand shoulder to shoulder with israel as it has done for the past 75 years. Since president truman recognize the jewish state, just moments after our creation. Our two countries are found on the bedrock of freedom and democracy with a shared commitment to oppose terrorism. President bidens visit just last week expressed solidarity and support for israel and highlighted the struggle against the rising threat of islamic terror. His visit alongside the ongoing series of u. S. Senior diplomatic visits, that codel just out including ten bipartisan members and u. S. Military support are all a clear significant demonstration of a Close Partnership between the u. S. And israel. The United States and israels joint political military coordination bolstered by the steadfast support of the west has expressed for israel, has shown its rightful commitment to combating terrorism in this consequential war. The administrations currently requesting a supplementary allocation of over 10 billion to support israels security and strategic needs. Additionally, weve seen great military support to the u. S. Deterrence efforts by asset such as aircraft carriers, the east military and towards the gulf. These are two further strategic corporate issue. Mitchell continues to stand firm against air threats and full cooperation and coordination with our longstanding allies. Congress exhibited all pressure a remarkable display of bipartisan support for israel. Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle came together to underscore their commitment to israels security and its right to defend itself. This is unity partisan line as legislators recognize the gravity of the situation that we are now facing. Despite the overwhelming show of support from government officials, the rising tide of antisemitism in the United States is deeply concerning, and underscores the critical importance of combating prejudice in all of its forms. Discrimination, hatred towards jewish communities not only threatens the wellbeing of jews worldwide but also underlines the Core Principles of tolerance and inclusivity that the United States stands for. By raising awareness, educatig the public, and taking concrete actions to confront this issue we can work towards a safer and more Inclusive Society and for the security and safety of the Jewish Community across the country. Demonstrations against israel that we are seeing now equals supporting hamas and its terrorism. Israelis have found themselves in this relentless conflict leaving them with little time to properly mourn their losses. Yet, despite the overwhelming grief and sorrow, we stand resolute, refusing to be broken by the terror that we face. Israel demonstrated remarkable unity and resilience as our citizens have come together in the face of adversity. In the midst of conflict and uncertainty, then nation has witnessed a profound sense of solidarity transcending political, religious and cultural divides. Israelis from all walks of life have rallied behind the common goal of safeguarding our homeland. Over 300,000 reservists called up for duty. This unity has been palpable not only among the israeli people but also in the Political Leadership when a shared commitment to ensuring the nations of security and sovereignty. With all of the vision and differences aside that weve been experiencing over the past years, we see how at times of crisis the people do come together. And israel, even forms an emergency unity government. The unwavering determination and exhibited by israel throughout this challenging period serves as a testament to the nations resilience and our ability to stand strong in times of crisis. Something we could not do without the ongoing support of the United States. Looking towards the future, sustaining bipartisan support for israel remains essential for not only American Foreign policy and regional stability, but also for the safety of the jewish people. The relationship between the United States and israel has deep historical roots, and strategic significance. While specific geopolitical landscape may evolve, fostering bipartisan consensus on the shared values and common interests that underpin this alliance will be pivotal. We do thank you for the ongoing support. We thank you for the support also Going Forward, which is so crucial to us. The 75 years celebration has changed. But 75 years together together is a clear message that we are here to stay together. Thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] if i could invite everyone to take your seats. We are right on time, so it is a great pleasure to invite my dear friend Ellie Cohanim and her fellow panelists for our second panel, enriching the u. S. Is really alliance by combating antisemitism. [applause] good afternoon, everyone. So wonderful to be here with you. And before we start i really want to just take a moment and thank the Heritage Foundation for dr. Kevin roberts and for victoria coates, who for a while has been thinking about holding this important conversation about the u. S. Israel relationship. And we were talking this weekend and she said she believes its Divine Providence because who knew how important this conversation would be at this moment in time . So again so grateful to victoria coates, to the Heritage Foundation for having us today. I want to start with introducing my esteemed panel here who im so honored to be monitoring this conversation. On the right is representative chip roy who is a devoted husband and father of two currently serving his third term in congress, representing texs 21st congressional district. So its an honor to have you with us, rapper roy. Next with ken marcus was found and chairman of the louis d. Brandeis center for human rights under law. Also a distinguished senior fellow at the center for liberty and life George Mason University law school. And formerly, im going get this right, sorry, theres just a title sirica formally use assistant secretary of education for civil rights among other tremendous accomplishments. And last with dr. Charles asher small ascher small founder president of the institute for the study of global antisemitism and policy and director of the most visited Fellowship Training Program for critical contemporary antisemitism studies at cambridge. Also a prolific author and writer. Wonderful to have you with us, gentlemen. Im going to start by just running a little bit where we are today. I think for jews all around the world right now we are in a state of shock and horror pic on october seventh, while jews in israel celebrated the holiday, hamas infiltrated the jewish communities in southern israel, massacre 1500 people, committed atrocities not seen since the holocaust. Israel says 80 of the 1500 murdered that dave were tortured first. Hamas kidnapped young women, toddlers, babies, elderly, and he seems to have unleashed the forces of hate across the world that day. Congressman roy, i want to ask you, would you think the american response should be at this unprecedented moment . Dcfs semitism as an element of what took place on october 7 . And also could you, i know this is what, if you could comment on the call for ceasefire and the notions of proportional war. Well, first of all its great to behavior thanks to victoria. Thanks our leadership on this issue. Kevin roberts got Heritage Foundation generally. Such an extraordinary, extraordinarily important issue. And its no accident that of i dont know the exact number, 16. X million jews around the world, that 80, whatever percent of those english live in the United States or israel. Equal numbers roughly between israel and the United States. And the rest scattered around the globe. With a few in europe and then scattered around. That is because of our strong connection and relationship with israel. Importantly, it is a connection of faith, i connection of people, a connection to politically, in terms of pressure vessel security and its unmistakable. And its remained unmistakable. So youre asking what the response should be and the response should be overwhelming force to send not just a message but to win. People want to monday morning quarterback and secondguess. I saw some musicales and you talk about what would we been doing on 24 hour news looking at every bomb dropped in germany or every bomb dropped in japan, or anywhere that weve ever fought . Wars are costly. Wars are messy. Wars kill people. Thats lost on no one in terms of humanity. But there is a cost to allowing terrorists, leadership of your country. Theres a cost to it. And thats what were seeing in gaza. And israel cannot back off and america cannot backoff in its support of israel. Period. [applause] you asked about this ceasefire. Ive heard the administration talked about the need for ceasefire to get 100 million plus whatever of eight antiamerican eight. Now again, there are human beings who are in the crossfire. Lets remember call , letsh the human beings who were the targets, predominantly jewish israeli citizens, some americs who were the targets of the terrorists barbaric actions of hamas. Thats where this started. And it is up to israel and the United States supporting israel to finish it. And we have to remain vigilant in that endeavor. There is to our history there is of course the proper place for dealing with the military need, the red cross and dealing with the clear interest of humanitarian relief. But under no circumstances can we allow that to be a bruise for getting gas and getting fuel and getting supplies to our enemies. Thats what weve got to make sure were standing vigilant against and not blink in the face of pressure when we need to do what we need to do to ensure that israel can win this, which is of course is a a win for america. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Ken im going to come to you now. Not only did we see these horrific crimes, atrocities committed against the jewish people, but before israel had even responded we saw students across College Campuses come out and out in protest and rally in support of hamas. Tell us a little bit about your assessment whats going on in our College Campuses. Theres something called the marcus doctrine that is attributed to you, if you chose also what mark is a doctrine is and how it ties into what were seeing today. Thank you and thank you to the Heritage Foundation. I have been fighting Campus Antisemitism for some 20 years. It gets worse and worse but never anything like the last couple of weeks. It has been surging over the last couple of years but it really has, it is been something unlike anything we saw before. Think about whats happening now. What we just saw and as ally described was mass torture, murder, rape of civilians, burning people alive, decapitation. The Immediate Response from College Campuses in many places was to support the terrorists. In one case a professor talk about being exhilarated. In many cases student groups arguing that we should join the resistance, meaning the genocidal attack on jewish people. This goes beyond the hostile environments that weve seen over recent years. What we are experiencing now is a mass coming down. Once we see it, we cant unsee see it. For University President s and the public, we now have to face the fact that on our College Campuses something monstrous is developing. We have very substantial movements of prohamas, proterrorists, progenocidal groups at some of the most important universities in the United States. Right now their University President s arguing about whether they should or should not issue a statement. Those president who either dont issue a statement or want a both sides statement are utterly incapable of understanding the moral issues. But even those who do issue a a statement and even a statement with moral clarity, its just a statement. If you are the president of the university today, you are now aware that for all the millions you put into dei, you have created the opposite of dei. For all that your admissions that admission to denigrate the student body that reflects the as you pretend to all, youve come to a student is in favor of murder. For all that you say that your curriculum should do more than just provide information or critical thinking, you have curricula that is training proterrorist people. Its beyond statements. We are at a time that if you are at a University President and you have not thought about cleaning house, you shouldnt be there. Its not about do you issue a statement . It is about to you realize youre running an institution that is fundamentally and totally wrongheaded in its approach, and that is in this country in the wrong direction. Even a good statement isnt enough. You asked about what i call the 2006 policy and what other people call the market policy or marcus doctrine enters perhaps an obvious reason what i call it Something Different than the others. Thats the notion that title vi of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which prohibit certain forms of race, color, dissemination of Public Schools and colleges and universities but that doesnt mention religion. Nevertheless, protects jews and certain of the groups that have ethnic backgrounds as well as religious ones based on the notion that a group which is ethnic or ancestral characteristics shouldnt lose the protections that they would have if they did not have a shared common faith. The Biden Administration to its credit has just expanded the use of the marcus doctrine to include that only the Education Department through Civil Rights Agency i headed and the department of justice also ate other agencies. So there are now ten cabinet level agencies. I am pleased with this pick this is something thats taken some 20 years to establish a once we have this notion that theyre going to deal with antisemitism, are they going to do with antisemitism . Because a site are not great. Assigned route are not great. Okay so now they know they have to do something. Lets see them do it. Bravo to that. We would all like to see them do it. Charles, im going to come to you, but go back to hamas if i may. Could you brake out for us a little bit about the ideology that is inspiring this war on jews and on israel . We hear a lot about this is about land and despite the fact that israel unilaterally withdrew from gaza back in 2005. So first of all im honored to be here so thank you for inviting me. I want to first start by saying Professor Research center that i had, always taught that antisemitism begins with the jews but it never ends with jews. This is not a parochial problem for the jewish people or for the state of israel. This is a problem for all good and decent people around the world and i think especially in this country. So once this form of antisemitism or hatred is unleashed it knows no boundaries. It attacks starts with the jews but doesnt end with the jews. It affects everything that is good and decent in our society including institutions and our values. What we are to witness in this country, in this country, in 2023 is unadulterated antisemitism. The fact that students at our best universities and professors at our best universities are turning out our leaders cut universities of the most Important Institution in our society, this is where young people go to learn how to become citizens, that are journalists, are industry leaders, our professors, are learning that killing innocent people is a form of decolonization and resistance. This is not just on the campus led by students for justice in palestine, which is an offshoot of the Muslim Student association which is a Muslim Brotherhood organization, those are the shock troops on hundreds of campuses in this country. But this is happening in the classroom and not just in middle east studies but in philosophy, in theology, in the social sciences and humanities. And now spreading into the schools that are professional schools. This ideology in our universities comes about after decades, decades of billions upon billions of dollars being pumped into our finest institution. This is a research were doing. Billions of dollars. Some of it coming illegally and some of it coming illegally. Oxford university where i studied, joseph started islamic studies. Joseph was head of the motion brotherhood who preached that the true believers need to complete the work of hitler. This is the gentleman that became the first director of islamic studies at Oxford University to , the head of te Muslim Brotherhood. But the infiltration of this ideology at our finest universities come with the president s of university come within City Government offices knowingly taking money from people who preach the killing of jews the destruction of israel. But they forget to look deeper that this ideology is also close to democracy and weakening democratic country and including the United States of america. So very briefly hamas has an ideology that comes out of the Muslim Brotherhood. The brotherhood started about 100 years ago as a reaction to british colonialism and is the root of political islam. Hamas, hezbollah, fiorini revolutionary regime, daesh, isis, they all come from this route. They fuse the very narrow understanding of islam. Im not speaking about islam, speaking about muslims. The vast majority of muslims are good and decent people around the world but political islam uses european antisemitism, genocidal hatred of the jew with this narrow form of islam, and they fuse of this and they are influenced by the nazi party and european fascism and antisemitism, and they want to read the region of all foreigners. They call for not only the destruction of the state of israel, they call for the murder of jewish people around the world. This is in their charter. This is not the extreme wing of hamas or the militant wing of hamas. This is in their constitution and it comes under the brotherhood. Your main revolutionary regime, qatar qatar is a paymaster of hamas. Qatar is one of the most important military basis of our country in their country. Why is this country not demanding from qatar the extradition of people who ordered the massacre of innocent people . When the washington stand up and make demands from our allies who are harboring people who committed this . Qatar celebrated, celebrated october 7 with iran and hamas. So we have very important domestic questions and international questions, and the rot is in our country. The rot is intermediate and in our best academic institutions. Thank you for that. Congressman roy, you have worked to counter that rot. You have introduced legislation that United Nations release under canada and transparency act. If you tell us about that and what inspired you to bring that legislation forward. And who else you would like to see held accountable as we do face this type, this overwhelming tide of jew hatred. Well look, a longstanding history of effectively supporting palestinians and antiisraeli policies, and that funding going through u. N. Needs to stop. I mean going to the party here, if i had to say what they, i introduce legislation and happy to press for it. Weve introduced other bills to defund the United Nations Human Rights Council which is an absurd entity on its face. But yet we keep doing it. You can walk out of this room with one thing from elyse muppets patient is why in hell do we find the very things destroy our country and undermining our freedom at her own National Security . But we find it all day long everyday. If you want to know what is at the center of this fight over the speaker of the house, yes, we need a speaker ask yes, i hope we get it done this week, but not at the expense of changing this town. This town has got to change. We have for my tie like i am 51 years old, my entire life weve been funding the very things we campaigned against. We campaigned against them but we find them. We find the United Nations. We found under it. We fund the Human Rights Council. We find all of these entities direct funding to the palestinians which goes directly to hamas. We have been doing that. Why on earth would we do that . And thats at the center of our debate right now about what were doing in this town and whether not we should continue doing the same thing weve been doing. And expect a different result. I would say that this is all directly connected by the way to the funding of higher education. Everything ken, just talked about respect what great honor universities is 100 correct but to go back to my point. You are funding it. With your tax dollars an hour borrowed dollars you are funding it. Hundreds on hundreds of billions of dollars over the years going to be socalled elite institutions of higher ed cowboys and the might of her kids to hate america, to hate western values and principles, to frankly run into not actually learn skills to be meaningful participants in society but rather sit around on twitter and social media in your parents basement harassing americans are actually adding value. You are funding that. Dad ask yourselves why. Its a fundamental question that i went to the university of virginia and you know, jeffersonian tradition blob law, you know . But its an embarrassment of an institution. Im going to say it right now. The university of virginia is an embarrassment of an institution. Students for justice in palestine release a statement at uva in support of the palestinian liberation calling the brutal attack on initial quote, a step towards a free palestine. A professor at uva offered extra credit for student who attended a discussion about how to quote stand in solidarity with palestinians resisting occupation. And hes a professor at a taxpayerfunded university in virginia founded by Thomas Jefferson dating extra credit from professor to the students. I could go on and on about some of the step at uva distribute an article on social media that they focus on the crisis in israel and gaza particularly entering the University Personnel are not in immediate danger. Thats it. They did issue a statement of moral clarity. Compare that though to something closer to leadership from ben sasse at the university of florida. In which he said quote, i will not tiptoe around the simple fact what hamas did is evil and there is no defense for terrorism. This shouldnt be hard. Sadly, too many people in the elite academia have been so weakened by the moral confusion and when they see videos of rape women, here of of the head head of a garment of a grandmother murdered in rome the for each first reaction of some is to provide context quoteunquote and blame the raped women, beheaded baby or the murdered grandmother. Another grotesque cases they support the terrorist are the thinking is he just wrong. Its sickening, dehumanizing. It is beneath people called educate our next generation of americans. They could go further to be clear. But thats the kind of thing we need to see from leaders at universities. Thats what we need to see from universities around the country and we should be demanding at, particularly from taxpayerfunded university but also donors to all this massive endowments at places like harvard where youve got kids trolling around university up and down stairs acting like they are somehow better than the rest of us telling us now to live our lives. But i need to give a shout out to do Governor Desantis in florida for taking this had on. For absolute returning the education establishment of floating upside down. And every republican governor every governor but i would be partisan, every republican government in the mission should be ashamed you are not doing the same thing. Taxes should be doing that in texas. [applause] every single state. Enough enough. Thank you. I couldnt agree with you more. And ken, congressman roy just mention students for justice in palestine. I know that the Louis Brandeis center was leading an effort recently on an sgp Campus Program they had on december, sorry, october 12 the national day of resistance. Kenny tells a little bit about what happened there and, and you know, how do we turn this tide of whats going on on the campuses . Ill give you a few samples of whats happening on the campus and white is respectfully i agree that the present ben sasse statement was one of the best, maybe the best. Its a little low for an usher was good enough for the university of florida but it certainly has been enough for the universities that are saying much worse. We are seeing campuses, theres a handful were a gun reports of physical attacks and in the wake for the cold resistant. Thats what resistance is come when with use the term resistance to using the hamas term. Theyre calling for people to join in a Worldwide Movement that has reached its culmination so far in a Program Involving torture, rape and murder. So theyre calling for people around the world to join in the atrocities that have always happen. In the wake of that of course we are seeing physical attacks on jewish students. Of course we are seeing vandalism of jewish institutions. Of course we seeing students being followed, being taunted, harassed and very sorts of ways. This is happening all over the place and it is often supported by faculty members, and seldom are University Administrators really doing very much if anything. Keep this in mind, if you are thinking about the campus and the same way after october seven that you did before october 7, you are not thinking about it right. Because prior to that, yes, we were seeing environments may toxic by antisemitic and antiamerican ideology. Yes, we were sitting jewish students who were being harassed, marginalized and excluded to the extent that zionism was an integral part of their identity. But what were seeing now is university funded and in some cases taxpayer funded efforts to advance in a conscious and intentional manner the program and Communications Agenda of the state department designated terrorist organization. To be clear what im describing is potentially a felony. So if you are University President who is not sure whether he should or shouldnt make a statement, let me say that on many campuses, its too late anyhow. Statement are okay in response to statements. People are simply saying all stinks you can say things that are true. If people are saying things are immoral, you can give them moral examples. If people are committing assault and vandalism, you cant just make a statement. If you are universities, facilities and resources are being used in a way that intentionally advances the agenda of a terrorist organization, if you are not sure whether you are committing a felony, forget about the statement. You need to take much greater actions even than the best of the University President s are making. We need a very strong messages from University President s from attorneys general, from governors that this cant continue. Its not a question of political disagreement. Its that if just a question of bigotry or harassment anymore. Now its also a question of whether our Public Institutions are being used that only to undermine American Foreign policy, the potentially to advance terrorism in a way that is federally criminal here. Its really just unbelievable, and as we talked it through, its just kind of hard i think for all of us to process where were at right now. And part of where we are at, charles, i want to bring this one to you, is not only the prohamas rallies that we saw in the College Campuses but also prohamas rallies in cities all around the world. If you could help us understand what do we make of that . What do we make of these houses of people point out in the streets not only in europe but right here in new york, right in washington, d. C. As well but also new york and brooklyn. Yesterday we saw, and also i want to just contrast that with the fact that not that long ago we were talking about a potential peace between israel, the kingdom of saudi arabia, something that Prime Minister netanyahu at the United Nations described that only as a piece between countries, nationstates, but really a bringing together of islam and judaism. So how do we understand whats happening right now . So i think its complex. Just also touch on this what happened on campus, in a way they are the sharp troops are endemic faculty and student feel uncomfortable. Texas a m, your home state, we discovered 1. 5 billion went to texas and him. Texas a m. I would be happy to share for report with you. Which of the iceberg, it is pervasive across the state and country. The Muslim Brotherhood it so much traction with 35 years ago the columbia diversity professor early scholar and propaganda. You proclaim 1982 he was last jewish intellectual was all the jewish professors were warriors in the suburbs of america and inheritor of the school of thought in the last jewish intellectual. They dismiss the disconnect from reality. Creating in this ivy league letter critical of American Power and western in the west have to take a step back from work order and administration and it has become weaker and in a weird sense there is this alliance because is rather islamics and the resume and Muslim Brotherhood they believe in colonization and reducing the power of the west so the radical postmodernist and intellectual home islamic has a similar agenda. Forty years of missed education combined with convergence of political islam and countries that are weakening, they have been able to push this alliance with intellectual and the west and islamist and arab and muslim countries and directly alliance during group and reported on the streets of london and the bbc and it swept into north america and canada and a maestro on the weekend and a group of friends will homes were jewish is a form is a call to isis and the revolutionary regime activate the in europe and got and read and the west and as the congressman said our democratic values, the American Values and the anti democrat anti jewish antichristian who. I heard you say right now, american use right now are frightened beyond words our institutions have daily security briefings and found out the president of a synagogue in detroit that of her home, everyone thinks it is he. Meanwhile Rashida Tlaib and ilhan omar deadlines about israel. What would you like to see from all members of congress and what you think governments responsibly as to the jewish minority population flex. That is a question, the amount of things to talk about but in short, you need very clear, unmistakable solidarity, with israel and the Jewish Population and it needs to be unequivocal. There needs to be zero tolerance, not just universities but around university with respect of the violence we see and its unfortunate in the murder and more democrats, this is discrimination up semitism we will see the facts out but that is what we are seeing and i want to we have to and leaving maintain briefings expressed you but the you, i was working as a mob minneapolis minnesota, the idea that we allow mom to rule in this country we need leadership to be clear are leadership for the administration will this resolution. Signal . We are to stand with israel thought of judeochristian values around the world itself meant to back with robert energy, then we are going to lose all of civilization put the right answer it will be clear and to stand on moral footing of our leave and own values not being apologetic. Are being told. I wonder if you could speak about the Biden Administration during combat, do you think they should be doing for . What initiative would you recommend . Me lletter the administration issued a National Strategy and should get a pot for this issue but as of substantive work, i would say the last ministrations, i would say there have been offense the Biden Administration, i hope no one since october 7 because while there are some good things, it wasnt sufficiently for october 7 and it is insufficient for now. The Biden Administration has continuously promised to issue a formal registration that would implement executive order on combating antisemitism and continually throughout this administration delayed doing so. The current deadline by the biden notably little about it i have not mentioned in many months and they are not even going to do it at minimum they should do what they promise. The Education Department office for civil rights issue some material but when it comes to the anti zionist form spoken in the white house they should be able to that now the campuses in which there is so much all have google and you substantial off of various which the government is obligated progressive. The department shouldnt be going to get there should be nationwide at 200 campuses for their problems they are the pavers i am not an advocate of hate crimes. I do not like government into people making determination why crime was committed. I voted against this and a lot of amount well. Very clear we funding the growth this year and spend time with to stop people running the lab i am telling you, its also mindboggling all unimproved everyone will not be here. We talked about moral clarity judeochristian principles and i hear things about the race to where when they pay someone come in and help them like there is a guilt factor and i dont understand how it motivated them and all of a sudden we feel filthy fortune tell people it was somebody elses fault while pointing fingers at somebody else instead of so been, they play, they found this think it comes from a good place particularly in women, i dont know if you seen fire facilitator, whose the woman who wrote the book on robin dangelo. They hire a type like her to come in and the get a group of friends and this woman starts picking them apart, you are a racist and this is what you do and we come out feeling small market we can moral 30 and im wondering if you have any suggestions, a policy that will fix that. My answer is along the short answer churches and synagogues have to stop sucking. Theyre not promoting 30 there sitting around wishywashy, they give something nice 20 classes, its crazy. If you dont have the ability to spend time doing stuff, youre not going to. My greatgreatgrandfather was a texas ranger and Central Texas area in the 70s. Had to get water, food and freight wasnt sitting around wondering will i get my free my therapy session . Im sorry, he borrow money from universities and pay people not working wonder why they are running around doing. Until we stop doing that, going to keep getting more. My name is erica, i am happy to be here today. I am a conservative. Survived to tell the tale. Yeah. I tend to agree with this how can we do this . When we have individuals at dhs betting rescue is unable to fire her because she is on leave and we have individuals who want advocate for boots on the ground to pregaza and u. S. A id with individuals like that in our government with ukraine. When they wonder talk line, it was coming out, i dont think anyone would want to see boots on the ground yet that risk so people see that and wonder how we support israel without escalating russian conflict and theres not a lot there to support this one is for you but i do have an extension. On this question there is a lot but in First Quarter the most important, we have to separate those issues, and have a debate about ukraine and about National Security interest but separate those. It is not an amount to be 114 billing all the people out there saying we have to make sure refugees come to the United States, hold your horses. I do not trust the administration for people to come in as refugees, i dont. Other respect to ambassador haley, i disagree and that is the stuff that comes from drinking a little wine. The practice, we need actual policy stand on the back of american sovereignty unapologetically in reno comes in we have a strong for and we stand alongside israel, getting it to ukraine. It was 8460 doing, we need a debate on the floor of a hostile work center. He why National Security is important anybody in the house you will pay for it, you take a lot of the inflation reduction act. We will maybe take out of the question. I am windy singleton. In the complex against corporate wokeism, i am curious what you think companies should be saying about this, is it different than im coming out and talking about other issues . What Corporate America could look like. To begin, those in the corporate world and Human Resources can look to the society good source of advice on that. Things they should begin corporations have months to recognize africanamerican women and other workers but dont have the poor jewish person. Jewish american instrument and let them recognize that. Some of them have employee resource groups, africanamerican, hispanic and other identity groups refused to create that notion religion only, provide opportunities for jewish employees for others. They should monitor their programs to see whether they make it worse because sometimes that is the case and it should make them better to the extent that had forms of determination and make sure some of the antisemitism we see in the leftwing to the extent invasion or others about hamas as well to the extent other workers they should consider is really American Employees will to this accommodation for others. The islamic perspective here the revolutionary regime and brotherhood declared war against the jewish people and destroy jewish people United States of america and other western prophecies dedicated to of other countries. We got in terms of operations from a corporation responsibly. Youre doing this with businesses and entities, we have kicked the can down the road i dont know if you can go down any notion america spoke to everything said what i tried to be clear about his tube in my you generally need to be about what we are doing and not allow it to continue funding with no strategy so thats why i want for consideration of how we deal with israel and ukraine. A strategy with ukraine but during money is not a strategy in our National Security interest in by i want it separated visiting of the use of military force. I dont want to remove the ability to go back, i just want to operate under a 20yearold black, thats insane. We need a clear vision of what we want to accomplish. The corporate stuff my only skill is the corporation need to get out of politics business. Lets be very clear like i dont need to hear all of your politics and everything corporations are too big and powerful in this country, we have been having government funding and support corporate entities, im a believer need to build up Small Businesses so corporations dont have as much power and im glad target and bud light have gone their careers kicked over the last three bucks. I do believe our time is running out. We have time for one last question. I am a Jewish College student and me and my friends have personally experienced antisemitism pacifically of the organization you mentioned. In my University George washington university, personally harassing jewish students myself included, how can we ensure jewish students illfated College Campuses expressing jewish identity and belief . Happy to talk to you about it now or after about it, i think you might have heard the introduction will be teaching at George Washington University Teaching there. To the brothers and sisters arrest local center afterwards, there are a lot of resources. We talk to students everyday about that. Of course there are others so will will there is a report about the letter should not be universities across the country, they are directly facilitated the work who want to not only destroy israel but jewish people so organizations operating on campus, can you imagine if there was another Organization Going for the murder of another group of students on campus by their religion, race or gender it wouldnt be tolerated. I think university of president Law Enforcement needs to understand. I will close with this, you are not alone. Remember that. Helpful here in d. C. , let us know and i taking solace and how much i have seen jewish students around universities let their voice be heard and the face of whats happening so god bless you. Be with you. We are all here and we are here for this continuum and drop bless you for being here today. We need to now, i just want to say it seems like we are at a real crossroads for our country and we all have decisions to make right now. I want to express gratitude to the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts for hosting this important conversation to my panelist, its wonderful to hear from each of you, thank you so much,. It is a pleasure, two things. First of all, we welcome you to the Heritage Foundation, this is a timely topic especially now and secondly, a pleasure to introduce our speaker and hearing comments, served as president of the World Jewish Congress in 2007 and International Philanthropists in our collector and Public Service he demonstrated the commitment to judaism to a wide range of other endeavors around the world. As president , meet regularly with heads of state, Prime Ministers and government representatives and causes of concern, jews and jewish communities internationally. The importance of supporting israel especially in times when the state is under attack. Encourages and aids vibrant jewish communities around the world. As you know will the most powerful on to will you. [applause] is a great honor to be here Heritage Foundation which is directly connected to my hero. I first met governor reagan the mid 1960s and my parents living room. I was inspired by america, optimism. Governor reagan became president in 1980. This administration and the defense department, it was Ronald Reagan who set off a chain of events that changed my life completely. Let me explain. In 1986, president reagan. 2 u. S. Ambassador, the same time of the controversy, secretarygeneral of the un, just left the United Nations but instead of going away quietly, went home and ran for president. He didnt do anything they didnt do. They elected him as ambassador of the decision. Because of its multi half i was no longer the american impossible. I was referred to as a Jewish American ambassador. The first in my life i came up against antisemitism it changed me. Contacting the jewish people. This topic said long ago the future of the u. S. Alliance was 75. Over the last two weeks the alliance has never been more important. Also the growing threat right here in the United States and around the world, a threat that no one can no longer ignore. That is today first, i want to make one thing clear. How much terrorists go through the fence separating from israel. They could take hostages back gaza. The captivate, decapitated jewish babies. The greatest jewish life since the holocaust. The hatred of jews, they were proud of it. We see this here in full color so you have expected the entire world to condemn it instead not just the middle east but london, new york, los angeles, and almost every College Campus we watch demonstrations not sympathy but israeli, men, women and children were butchered and said people are waving and supporting hamas. Israel will bring an oppressor and sat with burger terrorists 134 student groups armored say we hold the Israeli Regime entirely responsible for all violent, something has gone very wrong in our education system. Not long ago the age of israel and academics refined to a few socialists and the middle east. It was spread everywhere in every College President and administrator afraid to stand up and condemn it. How do we get there what can we do to turn this around . The radical change was slow, steady few people noticed it was even happening. In 1960 my generation of anti war began Teaching College classes around the country and cut off different points of view in the pipeline and people who share their opinions, if you work on a phd and hold conservative views, there was no job for you. These radical ideas put down secondary schools. Selfdescribed socialist and howard and peoples history told us it was america. This was not a serious scholarship. It was my High School Teachers who were taught by radical professors it came down to this. All opinions are equally valid. Some opinions are dead wrong so the next generation was learning this marxist history and high school. The book sold over 2 million copies, a negative impact on this generation. Remember the name cofounder of the underground, public buildings in 1960. The fbi checked his case. They went back to school and became professor of education. A huge impact on the book Elementary Students have read over the past decades. Paint usa as a racist evil country. There many others, schools and campuses around the country, they brought us to this present day. Wonderful colleges, the envy of the world in america who built bridges and say and a half students. Women and children in america was evil over the last 50 years in the core curriculum of western civilization wound. Instead classes in di, diversity, equity and inclusion in every school. Administrator. The dissent of di. Di court addresses it. Branded as colonial and that means they build the country out of nothing and created in the middle east who defended the home and end at this very moment there now be oppressors. Everyone here in this room falls into that category. Human colleges, israel is evil, u. S. Is evil. Washington many of the programs across the line. Great newspapers and always been our democracy but today they have been in too many places and it was evident last weeks you read in the New York Times how much clout israel close hundreds and it was a site on gaza and it was changed to at least five killed and they were not hit by israel, they were hit by hamas. And it wasnt 500. But most of the world was because of the headline. Last weeks headline in the countries. To leave and omar based on this lie, its no different than they claim jews to use the blood. One iota in the middle east. The worst is the cdc. They cant even call terrorist. Do you know the same lies and truly hate our country and something all of you remember throughout history whatever begins with the dos never ends with jews. One is all over, 60 million human beings were dead and two continents destroyed. Look around you. The practice, we are living through another. This one radical left. The new leftwing has been on gender, politics, race, history and especially core values that make the United States for the world. We must not let it destroy us. Donations of americans to achieve millions and leave families to come leaving grandparents hungry and a jew all of you and ancestors as well. Freedom of expression for all to let them just disappear. I will let not let this be destroyed. Fighting back, urge Congress Jewish communities from all over the world and the Prime Minister and make them aware we are watching everything going on in the country for one simple reason, so jewish citizens can practice their faith for dignity and safety. Thirty jewish schools in europe and jewish communities almost destroyed. These schools restarted jewish life for all americans who care about our values and our childrens futures. All of this in the national business. Millions of dollars over the years because we believe in everything. Palestines right and focus on palestinians. Instead, the biggest antisemitic anti israeli rally ever held. One of the main speakers, pink floyd. The same used a large inflatable piece is contrary. I pointed out that this conference would tarnish and she refused to cancel it. Remember the reason all opinions are equally valid, i have to wonder if it will allow, they should know, why is it acceptable . Because we are the oppressors and it might be the worst possible time and congressman on two weeks later 1500 jews were slaughtered because they were slaughtered because they were jews and i spent the past 40 years of my life all over the world and never in my wildest imagination thought i would have to buy it at my university. My family alma mater. John was not jewish, just a humble man. Every single university, every cable channel understand theres consequences to your actions. We can no longer be silent. None of us can sit back. Albert einstein said it well. The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch by without doing anything. The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything. This is the time to stand up and say the insanity is over. We all have to stand up to islam because a deadly court and terror, a war that not go away after 9 11. We have to fight for our alma mater. Our childrens schools, everywhere. We had to get up and get involved, create a new syllabus to deprogram young people brainwashed and university to believe america is evil, that israel is evil. I am well aware we have been fighting this fight for over 50 years. We have to be honest, we are losing. We have to fight hard. The good news, we are not. The radical left is not have more people behind us, they are just louder. We live in washington, new york, california. We might think we are a minority but we forget theres a great Big Wonderful country out there with hardworking people, honest people who are generous and good. But they dont like to get shoved around and they certainly dont like to be told what to think especially for this. Ronald reagan said, shining city over there. It never went away and its still worth fighting for. As any other great nation than ever before, lets fight this together for our children and grandchildren, the battle we cant lose. Its also about america. We all have to work very hard to make sure countries flourish for many years to come. Together, i know we do this. May god bless United States and god bless all of you. Thank you. [applause] [applause] ive never been more proud of my dear friend ambassador ronald louder. I say about Heritage Committee we are ready and able to get into fight and continue the fight with all of our friends to protect this critical relationship 25 years and beyond so thank you for attending and thank you to our friends online joined in. Anyone would like to join us in this conversation because this is the opening gambit and what we tend to have a major heritage Going Forward. Mike. [inaudible conversations] tonight watch cspan series in partnership with the library of congress, books that shaped america will feature mark twains novel, adventures of Huckleberry Finn written in 1884, the model is controversial from the beginning because of the subject matter and use of dialogue. 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