415 329 4231. 415 4354231 and you can text the word donate to that number. The club would like to than the osha foundation for supporting todays good live even i like the name of that, good let event and its my pleasure rightnow, my just overwhelming , deep, i cant even tell you how much i love this woman but its my pleasure to welcome my very dear friensunny hostin, awardwinning legal journalist and cohost of the view. Ve worked with sonny ny years and we have talked about so much, were like sisters andbrothers, we fight but its all love. Her new book is called, here it is. I am these truths. Its a memoir of identity, justice and living between worlds. Its a revealing look at her incredible story. Sonny grew up in the south bronx and through hard work, through determination and the support of her parents, her family she obtained a laundry. She went on to become a federal prosecutorand was soon recognized for her prostituting crimes against women and children she is a fighter , shes in it to do good and to help people. After reading the book she went to notre dame. After the courtroom sonny became the Television Analyst and one of the First National reporters to cover Trayvon Martins death. She continues to be an advocate for social justice and provide a voice for voicelesspeople of this world , really. Im thrilled to be here to discuss this story, were going to dig into the timely themes she explores throughout her book. One more word, just a quick reminder were going to be taking your questions and we may do it at the end or we may do it throughout just woven in. It depends on if something is related to what were talking about so submit your questions in the chat box. Sunny hostin, welcome. We have so much to talk about, how are you . Im happy to be here with you even though its very short, i wish we were there in the same room but im happy to be on this journey with you. Thank you so much so tell me, why did you decide to write i am these truths . Ieel the truth of it all is that yodo hold the power to be thedifference. You know that ive always believedhat and i think that at this time were in thmiddle of a pandemic, and ecomic crisis, a National Debate over policing. A delayed, what i think is delayed reckoning with systemic racism. And i have been journaling for so long and i had been writing and i thought, if not now, when . And i have spoken to justice sotomayor, that sods like a huge name drop but its the uth. Ive spoken to her about sharing my story and my story as you know donhas more ilures than success. And i thoug, is it time to share that . Warts and all because my story is painful. You grow up in thsouth bronx object with teenage parents and do youant to share all of that . Is it hopeful enough, ist aspirational enough and she said youe got to share it because it is read and it can be story for otr people and prise me one thing, you do it in spish and in english beuse its so important for those people that ybe sharing english as a second language and english as no doubt is my second language with everything thats going on ithe world do that though the little girl or little boy would rd it in spanish and hassle. Imure you thought what are going to people going learn from me cause everyones writing this book they do that and especially when you have the humility, when youre as humble as you are you will you wonder is anyone going tocare about wh i write . You said you have more failures than y have successes. But people dont realize its nd of like those, you take thosfailures those are building bcks to the success. Why did you el that way . Why did you feelou had all these failuresr whatever and did you struggle with thinking no ones going to care . Absolutely. Its the age of socialedia so i get immediate feedbac on the show. And i tried to be a way for the voicelessbecause that seat on the view is so important. I would get these messages that just talking about income inequality and youre talking about poverty and youretalking about the struggles. Youre sitting on the view. Youre wealthy, you dont know anything about it and i just remember thinking they dont know. Like, people dont know my story. They dont know how hard its been. They see you on the view and they think overnight success. Ive been working at this for decades. Ive been a lawyer for 25 years. Ive been on television for a long time area this is just the success youre seeing but youre not seeing the failures and theres just so many of them. What did you learn from those failures, what did you learn from that . I like to use my haters as motivators and my failures as the building blocks, what did you learn from those . I learned a tremendous amount of resilience. Ive learned, my father used to say you have to be twice as good to go half as far. Ive learned that no one can take excellence from you. So every time, there have been many times, the timey contract wasnt renewed. I knew that i hamy best that i had an excellent. And so i could lead with my head up. And i certainly len that. And i learned that there would be another day. I learned to use my voice that it was okay. I learnethat hility is okay. I actually also learned recently that im not as good at sticking up for myself i am at sticking up for other people. Who told you that . My husband told me that, you did. Our offices used to be right across from one another andwe go to each other for advice and comfort and feedback but go on. Youve often said leaning in,sunny. You dont stick up for yourself and its so true. And i write in the book how it really is easy to stick up for other people, to tell other peoples stories. It certainly was hard for me to tell this story. So that was kind of mystory. I tell the story of my parents, i was telling my mothers story and my mother didnt me for a week after he read the book. But i talk about addiction, i talk about Mental Health and there are a lot of features in that sense. I found that my bigness, i do not want to talk about discrimination. I did not want to raise my hand and say this is happening to me. Dont treat me this way. I should be valued more. I didnot want to do those things. And i found that out about myself. So its just a little bit shocking that i talk the talk and i can defend other people and stick up for victims, but it was really hard for me to do it for myself. Let me ask you because i want to ask you about the title of the book but i have to seek up on something that you said because i think being where we are in this business, theres a lot of advice we can offer people thats not just in this business and professional life anywhere. You said that you couldnt stick up for yourself, oftentimes you get to be in this position, its a pyramid, its ararefied air. So you want to stick up for yourself, you want to stick up for other people but then you worry that i do that, i going to lose my platform and therefore there wont be anyone like me with this voice. Was that part of it . With the shoes consideration isnt a day that goes by that i dont get an email for eight weeks or id be on the street and even young people would come up to me and say you for being who you are. You represent me. And that meant a lot to me. And then i thought if i stick my neck out, even for myself , there wont be someone like me on the view or on television and i remember i wrote about in the book, one of the reasons that i always wanted to be, we can watch on television when i was growing and i read about a book, i watched tv t we watched 60 minutes. We watched every sunday religiously and i would pretend to be one of the reporters but there werent any that looked like me and my paren were like, dont do that. Youreot going to see yourself so i remember the power of representation and so the thoht that i would take a chance, seeing that representation for those people that stopped me on the street was nerveracking. And i remember asking my family when i was typing the forward, i typed in 25 minutes and it just poured out of me. I remember thinking is this smart . And i showed it to my husband and i said this is professional suicideright . He said yeah, probably and i was like, im going to lose my job, right . He said,maybe. I did it anyway. Ee . Lean in. I felt like my goodness, again. Economic crisis area National Debate over licing. How people of color are affected more by this crisis. Everying and if i dont have the crage to do what i talk about every daon the show. Your in a pvileged position. Im from a privileged position, wouldbe a hypocrite. Thereyou go, girl. I can so relate to you because you remember when i came out do you remember how hard that was . I remember and you ote about in your book. I sa im never going to work in this business again and i leaned in and it was the total right thing to do. It was the right thg to do. I always tell people to walk in their own truth. Youre living in your own truth. Is that where that name comes from . I came up with the title of the book after it was written. And you know, im in my office now, my home office where i do a lot of writing and i have always things on. [inaudible] de remember i use to keep a copy of theconstitution on my desk. Its we hold these truths to be selfevident that all men are created equal. Thats what idoing, im sitting here in my books sorry, go aad. And i just started thinking about one of the themes of the book about the quality. And systemic racism and pay inequity and i was like, im going to be telling the truth and these are my truths and im hoping tjust not be ashamed of where they come from. I was like, i am these truths. Thats where it came from because its very powerful to say that the truth of it all is that are equal and that we hold the power to be the difference. You are, people of color , immigrants. You are the american story. So if someone tries to other rise immigrants and people of color its a small thing because of the people, the work of people of color is no pay, slavery, all those things. When people try to otheriz, isnt that infuriating for you . Painful. It used toake me angry but w its painful. Just a year after that decision were interracial couples were allowed to be married. A white hispanic, also jewish descent. And my father is a black guy. When they got married, it had just become legal and i was a unicorn. There wasnt really people who looked like me. I write about in the book have a lives in an area that was crazy. The kkk random out of town. For me, this was my entire life. My 50s, it was just unusual. I think that is why ive lived that struggle in life my identity. It said that 50 years later most people still question it. People have to be able to categorize somhing in order to feel, to be comrtable. I can understand a little bit but not as much a you because i wrote aut in my book, the brown paper bags, in the winter i could hang out with the white skin. In the summer, i was dark skin. But i remember when we have this conversation about you realize the bill on cnn, they dont know im latino they just think in terms of africanamerican, black and white in the country. I said sunday, let people know you are latino. But you felt stuck in that world. I did. That no mans world, sort o do i have to choose one . I did. For a lot of reaso. It was weird, they never asked me to do any reporting. I just thought, thats kind of weird. I think one of the reasons i write about in the book also, one of the reasons i blame myself is because i changed my name. We called you by your real name. Di you mph to make it more american or just tell me about that. My family brought me up, my friends from back in the day all called me by my real name. When i was in college, there were a couple of people would say no and i noticed and i would say cal me whatever you want to and they would call me sunshine okay, fine. They called me sunday, sunshine. When i staed, ty could not pronounce my ne. She would beike the cohost day is. [inaudible] it was a hugetruggle. On one of the breaks, she said can i Say Something to you . Said yes, maam. She said this name thing, i cantay it. I said well, what would you like me to do about my name . [laughter] you have a nickname . I felt the pressure at that te when i have this legend telling me this name is not going tout it. I said a lot of people call me sonny. Right thenhe said change it. I didnt even have a spelling for. [laughte changed it and i just went with it, to be hont. I didnt like it but i wt with it. After that, myareer kind of took off. Sometimes people get maybe rightfully so, sometimes people are just looking out for your wellbeing and she was like ts will work for you because i know tv. You just sometim have to roll with it. That is what she told me. She also told me, i write abo this in the book, she told m that. She said youre going to make i in this business. I havent see anyone do this as well as you without any training. You are amazing. The name will hold you back, people cant remember it. Ve got to tell you, she was right, i fel like i had a piece of myself. My grandmother never forgave me for it because i was named after her sister. People would say hey, sonny. She didnt like it. But i do think that cnn, people would have known my identity. I kin of did that to myself. If i had to again, i wouldnt have changed my name. Iould not have. [laughter] i cant g back now. Everybody knows me now. My first news recd, when i was a reporter, she didnt like my last, cleme. I knew in tv, its not the end think people can remember, it great. Thats what people change their names too. She wanted to be like don clark or something really simple. Unlike no one will remember that people will remember john lemon. People will remember sonny. I want to ask you because you talk about you are too lightskinned for the black community, to dark skin, people didnt get it. I want to ask about this. In an essay, the test of a firstrate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time. I do think it is so hard for people even intelligent people in the past to understand someone cant be black and latino. [laughter] it is fascinating, isnt it . Take barack obama. Half black and half white but nobody can really reconcile that. I think a lot of it has to do with the history of this count country. The one job rule, if you were one drop blonde, you are considered black. I think, i remember growing u up can we justalk about that for a little bit . That one drop. Yocould be 99. 9 Something Else but if you have just a smidge of black and you you are black. Because of that history i the couny, legal documents reflect the. Race i just a social construct anyway in my Life Experience reflected that. On my birth certificate, is black. It also says hispanic which is intereing because i look back at it and it says mother. Intesting, right . But when youere still out o a standardized test, you have to choose black, white or hispac. I would sometimes t to circle evything. Of course you did. [laughter] and i think again, it goes back to the htory of our country and the way people a indoctrinated to this day. I remember feeling, if i choose one, does that mean my mother doesnt exist . If i choose the other,oes that mean my father doesnt est and who i am and all my complexy . I really believe it is uniqueo this country because ive traveled to a lot of places and i have more complexity andhose other places and i am here. That is an american thing. That personifies wha we are going through right now. Theyve got to put you in a box even now, people want to put you in a box, everyone is so divided. People cld not understand when we were on cnn together, we could holdo thoughts at the same time. Just go on t, what is wrong . Would go have a drink later. People cant do that anymore, what is it about the country and societyhat cant hold those opposing views at the same time . I know that now its worse than its ever been and i remember holding back when i prosecuted cases at the justice department. I read a little bit about it in his book t sense that i would argue t the death in the courtroom, if you are the defense attorney, younew. I need to win because i was prosecuted in a crime tha i felt like i was in the white side. And you stood in myay. I wen to the wall with it. We argue and then go have drin drinks. Some of my closest friends, much like you and i, our dear friends and we wou battle on cnn much like we do on the view. People are always shocked that we are friends even though we may battle it out anday crazy things to each other on air we can go out and drink bourbon later. Unfortunately, i think that kind of respect or difference of opinion is gone in our country right now. Is just gone and it requires this kind of relationshi that we have, don. Requires a respect for difference of opinion. A level of forgiveness and being curious rather than just physical. It definitely requires curiosity and a lot of people, unfortunately, dont have that. From the dont have a respect for differences of opinion. You have that curiosity, what that means in my view is why is this person saying that . Would experience to other people have to say that . Do i see value in this . Theres always value in a difference of opinion. Only for you to strengthen your feelings about the opposite opinion. Its only to make you feel that way for some reason, we cant do that anymore. The relationship that Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg and justice scalia. You read their opinions and you would think they hate each other. On is hard for me because sometimes im like okay, they are they went out to lunch together every friday. I think we need more, i left out an important part, also changed name in the 70s and here you are in the 2000, did you talk to him about that . Yes and i read about it. There are allhese words for it it. You know what is weird though . Hes like you talk to people one way and then you like hey, whats up . You talk that way but then you get to a certain position after a wle and it all becomes one thing and y just do it. Its much more natural now and i find now it doesnt surprise people. I told chris the other nig on the air, i said your stupid. [laughter] thats just h we talk to each other, sorry. Also, my father, when my parents were cing up, it is now the early 70s a they are trying to get an artment in manhattan,heyve got me, my school cant reallyeach me properly, ive see my uncle stopped in front of me, weve t to get out of the projects. Th start to interview together for apartment. The minute they show up, the apartment is no longer available. When my mother realized was, her maiden name, she realizesf i change rosa to rose and my father comes if i show up with my light hair and light eyes, im going to get the apartment. My father realized when he sent s resume out, if he uses another name, then he looks like a white guy but if he changes it to Bill Cummings to william cummings, hes going to get the job. So he changed his name. My mother changed her name to rose. We got the apartment in manhattan and got the job. That is just the way it was. With my dad, it shouldnt be that way. Is a little bit of difference. I understand how you feel about your name, trust me. Especially because of your grandmother, they are proud of you. Bettina, right . But you didnt do it because you did it because sunny was easy and perfect and it fit but i understand how now, if you look back, he would have to change your name. It is a different time now but i do have to ask you, we always ask, what would you go back and tell your younger self . Were nervous about, miscarried about medical, their treatment with medicine, being a woman with kids in this business and so on. So look at what is happening now, this racial reckoning. The summer of george floyd. Okay, if you could go back and tell your younger self jacob blake, that shooting, would you tell yourself when you are reporting about Trayvon Martin or entering news television, would you take say to that sunny . That is a tough one. I didn know he would ask that. [laughter] when i was younger, i definitely thought if you did the excellent work, that you woulducceed. I ink that was a very simplistic way of looking at things if i am bng honest, would advise my younger self that it isnt america talk chrissy and to be ready for that. It isnt just working really hard and being those things help but go on. They help but it is not just a meritocracy and you d have to look out for those pholes and you do have to i a sense, play the game and be more strategic. You got to betrategic. You e a fighter, and activist and im like sunny, thats great but youve got t be strategic. [laughter] strategic and certainly be moref an advocate for self. I think i would tell myself. I often thought that, as you know, it only about the work and its just not. It is not only about the work. There is aigger picture. Yes, you need the work life bance as we call it. What i think about is your activism and your love of family and sense of family and the kind of mom you are and the daughter that you are. You are well rounded. I think the most successful, women arehe smartest. You can bring home t bacon, raise kids, all that. But men have to do that. Sunny, another question coming from the check. Its really small so forgive me but this is from, think it is a washy in this time of racial injustice, covid natural disaer, how can we channel our anger and despair to positive action . En there is anoer question for both of us, whatou admire about one anoer . First, how do you channel your ger into positiv action. I am always on 100. I alway feel like there is work to be done grade i start the book out by saying i wasorn in 1968. He got the backdrop of the civil rights movement, the backdrop of president kennedy aassinations of president kennedy, Martin Luther king junior, i was born in to that. Unrest. I feel like i get it in my spirit, i really feel we need pele to understand that you do hold the power to be the difference. It doesnt have to be in big ways. I think people feel powerless because i dont have that and what do i do . If you fl angry, that doesnt mean, you have to channel the anger and that can be in many ways. At could be being a poll worker and making sure people are not turned away inappropriately. It could be as simple as making sure you go to your local meeting and make sure your local School District is doing right by the kids in terms of covid plans. It could be protesting or organizing a protest. Getting a group of friends together and virtually plan something. One in five people voting. Theres so many ways to harness the anger in a positive way to affect change. I often think about the fact, when you think about, this is not a partial thing, lets say you were a hillary person and decided not to vote because he didnt think your vote would count or make a difference. Hillary lost michigan by 11000 votes. In some districts, she lost by seven. Imagine if one person thought they made a difference and went. That would have been the difference. That is how i feel like you channel your energy. Make your passion your purpose and do something. As you said, it doesnt always have to be 100, it doesnt always have to be a fight or something that involves the legal system or police or any of that. I had an experience recently, i went to a store and they were opening. I worked for the sidewalk and said i wanted to buy something out of the store. The guy said you can come in because of covid which i understood. Then as i was walking back for somethin like a bag, i saw this woman inside the store, a white lady shopping. I said to him what is going on . He said the, she is training. I wasnt sure if she was training or not, i didnt want to go to 100 and be like, because i didnt know exactly wh it was but isked him what was going on and he knew from the book i gave him in the conversation, he got it. I said i am not comfortable doing this, i dont want it to be a big deal but he got it. He had his lesson in tt moment without being a big deal. It is just a thing so youre right, you have to figure out how to do that. What is the appropriate step . Make a stand and it could be however small but do something. I think i said what i admire about you but i can add to that. I love sonnys ambition, it is not blind, its ambition in the right way. I like that youre able to evolve, i like your evolution. You dont have to say what you admire about you. I admire a lot of things about you. What a lot of people dont know, don is so supportivef others, so supportive and n just of me. Ive seen it before across the board for a lot of people. Ther are many things where i would get a text from don which could be a small as h are you doing . Why just watched a show that was bad a. Or you could have done this better but i always know hes watching and supporting and he wants you to be your best. In this business, and even in life, their people in your corner and want you to be a better version of yourself. I have always appreciated that. Thank you because i am so lucky to have this position. I say lucky becau i think i am talented a fine but there is a certain degree of being in the right place at the right tim but there are so few people lik me and you in these positions, we must look out for each other. I am not in competition with y you. No one can do me like i do. No one can do you like you. But here is the thing people should know. Its not just always you look great. Ill say sunny, dont get mad at me but the lighting today, dont do that. [laughter] you can tell me somethi and ill say its not my business. But k this next and it is so helpful a lot of people wont do that. Listen, that is not the name of the pson asking the question, that is the name of theerson sending me the question. As a prosecutor who is also a person of color, how do you view policing in america . What nds to change . That is a great question. I used to get by the way, thank y for th. I used to get a lot of flak for being a black prosecutorr prosecutor of color because a lot of times people of color go into crinal law, they dont go into that sid of the law. They become civil right lawyer lawyers, defense attorneys, even judges but certainly not prosecutors t people need to know a prosecutor is t most powerful pern in the courtroom courtroom. I read about this at the judge or the defense aorney but the prosecor. Im so happy you have such insight on camera in ktucky because he says i count do this because of this or thi but its like no, the prosecutor has the power. The prosecutor runs the narrative. Sorry, go on. People a upset about that and they areot being an indictment there. They are upset bause cameron was the prosecutor. He has the power toring the charges and put the narrative in front of t grand jury and chose a different narrative and that i why i choseo be a person of color as a prosecutor. You work intimately Police Officers. I know firsthand they have a very difficult job. They want to get back home to their family as well. The problem is multifactorial but the Police Officers i worked with, and im still friends with, they tell me they are in a situation that they are not prepared for nor do they want to deal with. They are sent into schoolso police children, they dont want to be there. With the right tools to police appropately and that may mean diverting fds to Mental Health officialtanza those calls and diverting funds to so that you have full professionals in schools that are dealing with troubled children. Guidance counselors and things of that nature so Police Officers can do police work which is what they want to do. I figure sending police into situations where they have no business dealing with, i also think that we have over militarized our police department. There is no reason why Police Departments have Armored Vehicles and these assault weapons used in war, bayonets in some Police Departments. There is no reason why the Police Departments have huge budgets for governments because they are killing black and brown people as opposed to tapping into the budget for training, bias training in how to deescalate. There is a problem with training and resources that doesnt seem to be fixed ever. And i also think we need more people of color that are not only enrolled in the Police Academy but also elevated to positions of supervisory positions so that they can teach lowerlevel Police Officers how to effectively police in communities of color. So you think we need to ask people say reimagine policing. We have gotten to a certain way we think thats the best way and i dont know, maybe the us and maybe it isnt but its interesting to me that people are offended by it. I understand the whole term defund the police you know how i told you about that. With that into an argument about it. People on the street were crowd surfing that term and taking it to advertising agencies and trying to figure out something that sprang up. They would have would have come up with something different. But they didnt. Its about the ideas that come from it. I get it but i think in an Election Year you know what im saying just because people are hyperaware in the end and even more so the people who dont want what you want to or at choose it as a cajole. Its true but yve got to realize i do write about these cases in the book. Theres everything you talk about it. You cited in some way in the book. I mean that and how to be succesul being a mom and being a prosecutor and all of that stuff yowrite in the book so eaking of anoth question from the viewer. What is the most significant profsional learning you have experienced as a part pertains to racial issues and thathe followup. What i have learned is that, where . The most signifant professional learning yohave experience as a pertains to rac relations. Probably its like what is the biggest, what have you learned the most and maybe one experien that you had. Whats the most significant professional learning you he experiend as a pertains to Race Relations . You know i tnk that my recent experience at abc if im beg honest has been, was reallyyeopening and i start the bo out with it in that we dont tal. Sunny experience someone who had big role in her career at a company and was in charge of people le sunny who is accused of makg insensitive racial remarks which included sunny. I say accus,. It was an investigation. She wasired. She was terminated. You know what im sing, so anyways it was se very har things, unprofeional about sunny and sunny fought back and she continued to fight back. That is recent. It was reason. It was just the summer. For me professionally the person was responsible for contract negotiations, for my career as well as development of my career so in terms of Race Relations you know what i learned was that i think we go through life again thinking that we are and hateocracy and people cant take excellence away from you. My father taught me that i might mother taught me that. What i did learn unfortunately its not just a meritocracy and race does still play a role in our lives and outside rolled in this country and we do have to speak up and speak out about that. Although i was very reluctant to do that, i chose to talk about it, write about it. Obviously i started the book with it and what i learned is that while i thought it was professionals of the slide in fact at least at abc people were very open about thank you for telling us this is how you felt, how you experienced it and how we calibrate and what can we do to make it better and how can we be better . I thought there was going to be this reluctance to talk about it. There was a reluctance to talk about it initially because when i first wrote the book and handed it in the response i got was no, no you cant talk about this stuff. You have got to take it out and i was like that im not going to take it out. I went so far as to hire a lawyer because i felt this was my truth and this was my experience but now fastforward we were going through this delayed reckoning of systemic racism and people are talking about it and protesting it. I feel a sea change because neither response has been how can we make it better . So thats what i have learned. Its a real professional change for me. You were standing up for yourself as you began the conversation. You stood up for yourself and that was something youd didnt do in the beginning. What i have admired about you is the evolution you have had so what happened to you unwittingly you didnt understand that you ended up helping others i just standing in your own truth. I will tell you this offline because you know this person. I just got a text from someone before we started this. Its that im reading your book. Thank you so much. Im going to the same thing and i really needed to read it, and im going to take some action myself. I was just floored that what i thought was professional suicide turns out not to be that and it is giving up that the people the courage to speak out. I think it is a moment we are at in this country. The power you have this one individual and you dont think you have that power but you do. And other people do as well. To what extent someone wants to know funny is social media responsible for the ability to communicate like human beings . I feel like social media is sort of like this two headed dragon. We get so much from it. Think you and i does ve covered a littlbit of it like the ab spring. Th can be used for such good and then it can be used to the deiment of so manyeople. My husband and i were just watching the social network. The social network. Its not the social network. Its a netflix. The social something, yeah. We immediately changed screen time for the kids. It is that instructive and the reason its so destructive that then it goes to some of the themes in the book is because people would never say in person or they wouldnt even say it virtually because we cant see each other. People become anonymous and so now all of a sudden they have these twitter on their im mamas basement and they have this courage and the burdens people to lose all decorum and it just sort of just keeps on replicating. I think it led to the demise of true civility. We have seen it from the top. There hasnt been in our history of president who is willing to expel people on social media. No qualms about it. Its social dilemma by the way. Social dilemma. I think social media has given everyone permission to save these nasty things. If i read to you the things that were said about me on social media. Oh i know. I have heard it all but every now and then im like oh wow. I have limited my comments on certain social media sites just the people i follow you no. Oh my gosh you cant especially an instagram and you can do it on twitter as well. Once you concede and you can set up where not everybody can respond to something that you tweeted. I called twitter to hook me up and you can go an instagram. I love this exchange of ideas. I love the feedback but it has led to this incivility that i never thought that i would see. Do you want to hear the love and the hated the people you respect . You dont have to hear from the people you dont love or respect. You know everyone loves you. You want to see the comments because you want to see oh my gosh. I love the criticism because if im getting it wrong, i want to know that. And you know this im such a Firm Believer in the freedom of speech. I want to hear from people but i am always shocked again at the crass incivility of it. Okay sunny can we do it lightning round because we literally have a couple minutes. I want to go fast. Sunny why did he want to become a lawyer and if there is one question you could ask President Trump what would it be . First of all why did you want to become a lawyer . I wanted to fight for people. I wanted to be someone superhero and i thought that would be the best way to do it. Is there one question you would like to ask President Trump and what would it be . Are you doing all of this because your father didnt show you enough love . And the same to president biden. What would i oust president den . Yale. Whats the first thing you would do to restore the soul of this country . Wow, those are good questions. I think i would have two. One is why are you so jealous of barack obama. That is a good one. Its because barack has more money than h has. Aughter] if you had to get the truth and it was a truth serum it would h dennis taxes did you pay . After writing this book and sharing of personal experiences there anything that defies you that you have learned about yourself . I wrote the chapter on motherhood which was the hardest chapter 4 me to write because i shared that i went to went through fertility and five miscarriages and i almost lost my son in the pregnancy. I havent told my children that they are ivf babies so i have to share that with them. Ive learned when i narrated the book he gives a narrated the audio book i knew that i was, that i had a really tough time when i was going through all of this but i realized that i really have fallen into a deep depression and i realized that about myself as im generally such a happy person. You know that don. Im a very happy person. Sunny calm down. You are too happy of a person. Im in a bad mood. I learned that about myself. I have a new found empathy for people that deal with mental illness. I really felt all the pain that i felt when i married narrated that part of the book. I have a last question for you. This is a question that i always ask. Who do you think you are, sunny hostin . I think that i am the beneficiary of my parents sacrifice and the love and dreams of my ancestors. I love you. Thank you sunny, thank you. We have to get together when we were when we are not so limited. More than a virtual hug and a text. I would like to thank sunny hostin and everyone will one where you are cohost of i am these truths a memoir of justice and living between worlds. Please support your local bookstores and pick up your copy of sunnys new book and if youd like to watch more the program and support the Commonwealth Club visit www. Commonwealth club. Org. My name is don lemon and i think you are being here and i thank you sunny for everything. Sunny you are amazing and stay safe everyone. Good buys sunny. Goodbye everyone
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