Two friends and fellow activist, jane and amber. The last time that we were together was protesting washington d. C. So its just perfect we are here with our favorite washington d. C. Politics and prose store. Im counting the days we are able to do that again. They need is greater than ever and hope all of you will read this book and then join us when we protest again. Joining us in california where it is so dark outside on the smoke that looks like its the middle of the night. Its very disorienting and the compelling need for protest is just so apparent. Im almost at the loss of words about how extreme the situation is. So jane fonda needs no introduction. We all know her illustrious legendary awardwinning acting career, currently with the netflix it which i i really recommend. Diabetes. As blizzard decades long work of being an activist and an ally for critically important social and Environmental Justice issues. Everybody knows jane the actor inching activist. I want to introduce a a differt site for jane, another site, a side youll see in new book. Jane is also a devoted, hungry learner. She understood the urgency about climate as you want to learn more so she dove in incredibly digging into the science that our member one briefing in washington, d. C. We had this climate expert briefings on economics the policy and one of them said i do want to get too much in wheat and chanted in the weeds, did in the weeds. She seeks out and listens to voices on the front side of Climate Impact voices that are often ignored meeting with curiosity and inviting others to join her. It is been such a joy to work alongside her this past year and the deceit all captured in this book. I asked maureen dowd what she thought of the book and she said something so right on. She said it unfold as an odyssey of selfdiscovery. That is a great description and a wonderful we have jane here to guide us and join in that odyssey from climate dispirited action the only to much. So welcome jane also have Amber Valletta with as to moderate the program. You recognize her from her modeling work, her acting work and move into an entrepreneurial work, founding the cutting edge responsible made fashion brands master news. I know amber for marching together in the streets demanding climate action. Throughout all of her work in fashion and business, activism, shes been committed to advancing martyr consumption, environmental awareness and very importantly inspiring others to get involved in the collective heart and joyful work of driving social change. Amber is a dear friend of jane. Shes joined multiple friday rallies speaking come marching and were all arrested together in front of the Capitol Building with civil disobedience to draw attention to the Climate Crisis. The impacts of which were seeing unfold on the west coast and around the world today. So jane, amber, it is great to see book. I wish i could give you a big hug. Im sending a virtual hug from berkeley and counting the days and two were back in d. C. Demanding more from climate leadership that leads with site in the moment. Take it away. Thanks, annie. Got to say amber, i think i told you this but a year ago, it was just about a year ago when i realized that Greta Thunberg it was right. With a get out of our comfort zones and behave like were in a crisis, because we are, a true crisis. Right away the person i i knewi had to call was Annie Leonard, the director of greenpeace. Is there a braver organization and greenpeace . I know they embrace big strong powerful actions that wake people up and annie is at the helm. It just means so much to me that because of annie and greenpeace we were able to get this thing going and continuing, is continuing and growing. I cant wait to get to all of that and here exactly how friday started. Thank you for ask me to do this and thank you for politics and prose for hosting us and annie for all your work in greenpeace. I love you guys and its been a real honor to march with you and to be arrested and to learn from you. I feel so eternally blessed to be a tonight. I just wanted to say when i was reading your book, jane, i love how personal this book was it because you are talking about very big subjects. You were talking about big issues where facing about Climate Change, and yet you interwoven your own personal history and your own stories, and i just found it so inspiring and get help for me make it human and connect the dots. So i hope others will find that. I just wanted to start by saying that to. Thanks, amber. Love to all the stories and a people that showed up for you were people from the past, just amazing. I know youve been an activist for many issues. You are also keenly aware of Environmental Issues even as early as the 70s. But what really lead you, actually a year ago now, to start fire drill fridays . I was pretty depressed because i kept asking what can i do, you know . I did all the personal things. I got rid of single use plastic and cut way back can meat and have an electric car but i know thats the onramp. Thats the first step. But those of us who are celebrities have platform. How do i use my platform appropriately . It was Greta Thunberg and naomi klein spoke to make some of the people in washington reddit, watching have read it, called on fire and it was the book that really shook me and it was how she quoted gratis to get out of your comfort zone and put your body on the line here that was why realized okay, all right, actually my first desire was, and i called annie and i said i want to move to d. C. For a year. Im going to live in a tent, camp out in front of the white house. And remember this silent on the phone and then she said, thats great, jane. Thats great joy to put yourself out there but its illegal. We cant campout anymore. So we have to find another way, and then we eventually work out the once a week friday by our drills. I love how you guys came up with that name, that was interesting. We did know what to call it. Theres a documentary film crew following us and we spent a day in a room tried to forget the name and we couldnt think of one and we were packing up to go, and the sound of the documentary said what about fire drill fridays . We said thats the one. You spoke about feeling kind of despair and i think we all especially now since covid hit weve all been challenged with feeling despair and sort of whats going to happen coupled with whats happening right now in california or the floods, the massive hurricane we had in texas and in louisiana. And not just you and the United States but all over the world. We are seeing the effects of Climate Change. How did you stay above all that to keep fighting . How do you stave off that despair . Sometimes i dont. Its just heartbreaking whats happening. Here in california we have a government who just today on the news said he will not tolerate people who are denying Climate Change, and he keeps signing permits for further fossil fuel drilling and infrastructure and fracking. Thats what we have to stop is a fossil fuels. So when i see that somebody like how the newsom and have the state is on fire and he claims to be, and in many ways is a climate activist gavin newsom but he cant stand up to oil so i get kind of down. But i dont know, its talking to and being with the young climate strikers, many of whom have been on fire drill fridays with me since ive been back in california. Its knowing how people change. When we started in d. C. A year ago, i think annie was one of them, i think 16 people got arrested. When we left it was about, well over 300 people. I remember. You remember. And now were doing, weve been doing them for six months virtually and last fight with 750,000 people following us, which is pretty amazing. Tens of thousands of people have signed up to be volunteers, and they are doing things that really matter. Calling and writing and texting and reregistering people who have been purged from the voting polls, and loving how they feel that theyre making a difference. Thats what helps me get over climate despair is activism. Yes. Taking action, right . What defects of the first time you were arrested a year ago, october 11, the most a year, that first rally, so much has changed and especially in the United States but globally theres been a lot of people here but here in the United States a lot of upheaval. We sena summer protests and just massive amounts of social change. How would you feel now when you think about that first arrest compared to now . Im more glad than ever that i was there and i did it and annie and all those other wonderful people were there with me on that first day and we kept at it. It was real scary in the beginning. We didnt know. You know, there were more photographers than the were protesters. We did know if it was going to gain traction, in the midst of the triple crises that were facing now, theres a a climat, the covid endemic and theres the uprisings following george floyd. I mean, this is an important time, a time when, not only do we have to do with the election and making sure that biden gets elected, we also have to really dig deep to ourselves and figure who we are. Who do we want to be . And we have to fundamentally, and hope we will and i think we will, we have to change the way we think and feel and function. And learn to care for each other and not let these dog whistling politicians who really dont care about us at all, lead us down a a deadend road, which s whats happening now. I always tend to look at the bright side. Covid didnt break us. Covid expose where we were already broken. People saw things that are dont think they were aware of. They didnt realize how our federal government has been so weakened and crippled by that guy thats in the white house right now. When youre facing a pandemic and a Climate Crisis, you need a strong federal government that were donated and strategic and prepared, and people are now faced with what happens when you dont have that. Thats one thing. Another lesson from covid is Pay Attention to the experts. The medical experts and the scientists, which has not been happening and i think people see what happens when you dont do that. And then i think that people are seeing the essential workers, the farm workers, the nurses, Domestic Workers comp the delivery people, all the people that make our lives function that are risking so much and getting so little in return, clapping for them in the evening isnt enough. We have to really fight for them. Not just for now but in the future, that theyre able to earn a decent living so they can support themselves. All these things and reflect on who we are as a people are happening at once and think were being shaken awake, so i feel very hopeful. Yes, we are. Thats one of the things that ive come to realize since really getting involved in different types of activism is that all of these paths converge, that racial justice, womens issues, indigenous issues, labor issues, even things like clothing. Everything, oil industry, clean air, everything emerges into one, like all paths lead to rome. I think that people just dont realize how interconnected everything is. I know that you brought so much of that to life in fire drill fridays. Thats what each phaedra fight it was about, a different issue but you also people speaking from different backgrounds and you collaborated with people from different backgrounds. Can you talk about why its a vitally important that we collaborate, why we are all, that we collaborate with different movements as well . We are not going to win unless we collaborate, and youre absolutely right, and become when you say theyre all interconnected. The mindset that is, sorry to say, the foundation of the United States, that builds the economy of the United States, the slavery. Its a mindset that people are fungible, that the land is to be used and overused and then discarded and move on. Theres always a place you can move do, theres always been new frontier. We treat human beings and land and nature as disposable, and its now we are at the far extreme of that mindset and what it has given birth to. Its late stage capitalism, globalism, and its scaring us right in the face and its all the same thing. Staring. We cant just have new politician and some new policies. To have a new civilizational paradigm which guides us into the future. Yes, it is all about a new paradigm shift. I think one of the things that is so important having that big shift is listening to the youth and hearing how they feel so, i dont understand how we could have kissed away the future. I know you had a lot of young activist, and work with you during fire drill fridays and ive even from the some of these young people in instagram now. One talk to personally. Talk about that, how you merged your you are a woman of, you didnt necessarily need to do that and you guys at greenpeace all joined together with these imagine if i hadnt. Imagine if this aging movie star from hollywood had walked into d. C. And started these actions on friday without ever meeting with the folks that a been there every friday for a year already. I mean, it would not have worked. It is to try to credit that she knew before this was going to work with the second with the people that its it already ben there. That included a young time it started but it also included the heads of all the other environmental organizations that believe in action. There are some environmental organizations that are about conservation and they dont do big action. We got the organizations together that understand the value of actions, and really it was together we figured out what we needed to do and a lot of them later spoke at the rallies. And then i brought in celebrities who are my friends, because not to pretend they were experts, although the dance and knows a lot about the ocean, but ted danson to be the ones to introduce the frontline people, these people of color, these young women, these young Indigenous People from Standing Rock, people whose voices are not heard normally. We wanted to use our celebrity to give them a platform, and boy, their stories were potent and heartbreaking and important. But there was one, which was it . It was Environmental Justice i think was this particular friday. What a lineup. There was a young girl from Standing Rock and there was abby disney, the niece of walt disney, arianna from houston who lives in the shadow of a refinery and described what it was like growing up in a place where people couldnt breathe anybody had lung disease and so forth, and then it was bobby kennedy. It was just beautiful, and it made me so happy. And one of the things i love about this book is that when you look at the pictures, you can see how it was centered in joy, love. You can see all the loving peoples faces. It was great. There was a lot of support i know when i was there several times. There was a lot of love and support. I brought my mom to the very last fire drill friday in d. C. , and the martin sheen spoke and he gave that amazing im not even sure whose speech it was, but it was so powerful, and he was so generous and gracious with so many people. And there were so many, you know, other incredible people that came that day. Walking, and then you have activists and people from all over. It was just powerful. It was an amazing job. I want to talk about some of the real demands you all were making for fire drill friday, and one of the biggest, not biggest come but you talk about a lot in the book and im not sure people understand the Green New Deal. Would you give a very quick, if its possible, you know, summary so the people can understand why its so important, why we need this. I think its easy to understand it if i start out describing what happens if we dont there we go. We are facing out of coal and so theres all this coal miners, a lot of them have black lung because of their work. West virginia, kentucky, the mines have closed down. The owners of the mines have canceled healthcare for these people. Theres a fund that is supposed to support mineworkers, you know. That disappeared, and so they are all these out of work coal miners who see no future, who have no institutional help, right . They are the victims of the transition away from fossil fuels. That cannot happen. We need to make sure that when we moved from a fossil fuelbased energy economy, of the workers and communities and families who are impacted by that transition are trained for new jobs, where they live, in their communities, union jobs with the right to collective bargaining so that they dont lose anything. Except now their jobs are healthy and clean and they are still earning a decent salary, a cousin in the fossil fuel industry there is a unionized, a lot of the workers are unionized so they can earn 85, 100,000 a year. Its a. Its a good living. We had asked him to leave that to go to work making solar panels for 30,000 a year, 40,000 a year, you know. What the group knew deal does what the Green New Deal does come its a vision of how to move forward in such a way that we leave nothing behind, that we raise, not just that we dont retrain a fossil fuel workers to work in the Green Economy but we raise up those who work in the low carbon sectors, the ones that we call essential workers now and that they are lifted to a place where they dont live in constant anxiety about how much money there early, that they would earn a decent salary and they would be respected, and they would have family leave and they could have Maternity Leave and paternity leave and they were taken care of when they were sick. We should take care of our people, our working people. The Green New Deal its us the right to do that, to move away from fossil fuels into a caring, clean, sustainable economy. Now, its kind of like what roosevelt did in the 30s when he was trying to lift this country out of this despair during the great depression. And by the way, he didnt just do it because he was this great guy. There were millions of people who forced him to do it. He said to them at one point i agree with you, now go out and make me do it. Go out and make them do it. Because the same kind of people who were opposed to him, and i was once married to a guy whose father, well, he was already dead, the father, but he would have killed me i think if you didnt live knowing that his son was mary somebody who loved roosevelt. My father, the only time i saw him cry was that they roosevelt died. That was very part of our dna as a family. Big, rape, bold actions to lift people up brave. Thats with the Green New Deal does. Its not just lets just take green paint and paint over the civilian conservation corps and all those programs with the Green New Deal would be original new deal. It requires, it requires changing the way we think and the way we live. And all the people that are opposed to it, they say its too expensive, its not real. Sounds like socialism. This is what they did with Franklin Delano roosevelt in the 30s. One of the things that codefendant Viktor Shokin when theres an emergency government can come up with money. Not only to have to have the money needs to be used, not to put us back where we were before, but use the covid mining after the election so please, god, we make a turnout the way it needs to covid money the money need to go to put people to work in the Green Economy. Our country is not resilient. We dont have country that can stand up to whats coming. Look what happened in california. Look what is happening in houston and louisiana. We like resilience. Our homes, our stores, our schools, hospitals, our Healthcare Systems need to be shored up and restructured so they can withstand the assaults that are coming. Absolutely. Even when you look at all of our bridges, roads, rivers, bandwidth with internet, electrical, everything water systems. Pipelines are not bad. Lets move away from hyping oil tell hyping clean water to flint, michigan, and all their places that dont have clean water. I was a victim of the crime of clayson is lack of water. Its scary. I mean, directly to that point, looking at flint and talking about lack of water and drinkable water, how much this country are racial and economic inequalities are linked to the Climate Crisis. Talk about the disparity between, you have this White Privilege. You never have an oil drill or no clean water in santa monica. You wouldnt have oil drilled shooting at chemicals and poor air quality for people in a sort of White Privilege neighborhood, where as you do in low Income Housing and indigenous communities. They are being tracked and drilled. Theres this huge disparity even though we all will feel the change eventually, right . But talk about how linked these racial inequalities are to Climate Change. I write about in the book. Annie, after she got out of school and she studied, i dont know, i dont how she describes it, but she studied things like why you would, how you would choose where to put an oil rig or a refinery or a waste dump or Something Like that. And in school she was taught, welcome you dont put it close to an aquifer. You put in this kind of geological place for obvious reasons. When she got out of school and face reality there was a study that came up, i think it was 1987, if im not mistaken, that showed how the decisions were made about where to put the fossil fuel infrastructures and refineries and incinerators and everything in communities of color and lowincome communities, where it is assumed they dont have the power to fight back. And so generation after generation rose up in these situations where kids are constantly having to use insulators when they play sports because theres methane right over their plane feels and people are dying of cancer and Heart Disease and all kinds of things. Because the called sacrifice zones, these places. We focused on that several times with fire drill fridays. An hour south of here is a whole community, wilmington, where you can just smell it in the air and the pumps, that they go up and down drilling for oil right next to a home or right next to a school because they are hispanic so they cant fight back. They are fighting back now and were all stand together in this right back because that has to stop. Its one reason why those communities are so much more vulnerable to the covid endemic because they already suffering from lung disease and other things that make them very vulnerable. Exactly. I know women are also active by Climate Change. Many of the refugees were seeing around the world are women. They are also caregivers and generally they are the ones are going out in working and taking care of the children at the same time. So how do you see women leading this Climate Change, this Climate Movement . Theres a lot of reasons why think women are in the leadership. Theres also a lot of really good men. Theres a lot of really good men that are leaving, but we know month after month after month in d. C. That twothirds of the people there were women. So we get pretty feisty and women are less vulnerable to the disease of individualism and were conditioned socially to depend on each other more and i think its evolutionary. Way back in the hunter and gatherer days men would go out to try it find meat which often never happened because they couldnt find any. It was us sitting around the camp fire, helping each other give birth and taking care of the young children. And the older women telling the younger women where the tiger was hiding or the water was better or poison weeds were growing and we became conscious of becoming interdependent and grew into sewing circles and book clubs and we hang together and the way we relate is different. It is, we relate facetoface eye to eye on a soul level and i feel kind of bad because men are kind of side to side looking out at the car races or the sports or whatever, you know, its not its a little less on a soul level the way they relate to each other and this is extremely important right now because the people who are in charge want us to believe that individualism is a good thing. That theyre trying to make the word collective a bad word. And women dont fall for that. So i think its one of the reasons that we and also we relate to the earth more vicerally than men do. Were the ones that bear the children and boy, do children suffer with the Climate Crisis because we carry toxins in our bodies that we have more body fat than men do. It affects. The toxins go into fat and thats why whales, you know, they i cant remember the word now, but sequester. Whales sequester in the body fat. And women sequester into the fat and goes into the fetus and kids are sick all over the world. I want to know why right to lifers dont get on the band wagon for the Climate Crisis if they care so much about children. There are all kinds of reasons that women are in the leadership of this vital movement. In africa, you know, they come up with the ideas of having solar panels to heat schools and bring light into cottages while so baby arent born and surgeries arent done by candlelight and theyre and also the countries that have with i am in leadership roles tend to be the ones that sign the climate treaties and huh . Theyve also done better during covid. During covid, thats right. Good point. Yes. Beautiful. So who are your heroes . Im curious. Youre surrounded by incredibly i am. Heroes of my friends, my women friends. And Laura Flanders and elizabeth lesser and Annie Leonard, and, you know, you, i mean, my friends are my heroes. Well, we love you, jane. Youre our hero. This doesnt seem like it would be connected to Climate Change, but war. We were talking about women and now generally driven by men and not but it is driven by that power and i dont think most people even think that the two are connected, but Climate Change is vastly connected to war in the last 80 years, all the wars have been fought over oil. Oil is our number one offender. Talk about how we could possibly change that and you know, could we move military budget over to the Green New Deal. Now youre talking. I didnt realize how connected the military is to the Climate Crisis. The pentagon is the Worlds Largest users of fossil fuels. Now, this really blew my mind. The military hats been exempted, the pentagon has been exempted from environmental regulations and as a result, superfund sites are all around military bases. Guys are getting sick, i mean, lethally sick from the toxins in and around military bases and then you have what, the u. S. Forces did in iraq, just, you know, uranium, spent uranium, things tossed into villages and you know, theyre not going to get in trouble because theyre not going to be held to account by environmental regulations. Then on top of all that we have the largest its not just the Largest Military budget in the world. Our military budget is charger than, lets see russia, iran, china, north korea, the big countries combined our military budget is bigger, you know . We have bases, i dont know, i cant remember now how many, but we have bases all over the world. Other countries dont have that that many bases. We have, i dont know, a dozen aircraft carriers, russia has one. Its ridiculous, just a huge portion of every dollar in america goes to the military. Is it making us safer . No, its not what makes us safe is children who dont have asthma and, you know, homes that will withstand storms and people not worried about eating or things like that. Thats what makes you so we have to take that money, we have to take the money away from the fossil fuel industry. Right now we spend 20 billion a year, we do, taxpayers to support the fossil fuel industry. Take that and the pentagon money and put it into the Green New Deal. Put it into a green future, yeah. Education, innovation, collaboration, right . Yeah. What about water . We know water is life. I loved when you talked about in your book how important whales were. Of course, Everybody Loves a whale and, you know, theyre an important mammal, but how important they are to actually Climate Change . They sequester so much carbon and like algae and plankton. We dont realize that those species or their plants, they actually are creating the helping us with the air we breathe and cleaning it and taking the carbon out. So, when we disturb all of that, we harm ourselves. Theres a price. You know, the ocean is one of our greatest allies in addressing the Climate Crisis. The water in the ocean, the plankton in the ocean, the whales, all of those animals and planktons that are absorbing our poisons and our carbons and our heat, and absorbs so much of our heat and as a result its becoming acid phied and what happens it the phyto plankton that supplies us with our oxygen are being damaged and thats pretty scary. Whats going to happen when the ocean cant supply us with oxygen anymore and look whats happening in the amazon as its burning down. So, you know, our life support system is unravelling. The scientists tell us we have 10 years to cut fossil fuel emissions in half and then begin to gradually phase out to zero by 2050, by mid century, thats a huge undertaking. Its a greater task than ever before in human history. The scientists tell us we can do it. We have the smarts and the money, the technology, we have everything we need except numbers of people ready to roll up their sleeves and make it happen and thats why im so committed to friday and greenpeace. Yeah. Water, so much good is being done around water. Theres barlow who i met i was there. Yeah, on the friday that we did on water, Annie Leonard got maude barlow to come which is a co coup, and she has been creating all over the world. Theyre called blue blue municipalities, but whether its a community, a church, a university, a whole city, a whole country can make the determination that its going to go blue which means its going to not have privatized water. Water will be a public right taken care for people. We will have a pipe system to transport it that is clean and resilient. I mean, a huge percentage of Water Management firms in the United States are really worried that they wont withstand any more extreme weather events. Theyre too vulnerable right now. Thats the system that takes our water, relies on that system to be strong. I mean, it is scary. Theres so many millions of people in the world who dont have clean, Potable Water and its going to keep expanding, so water is something that we need to be really, really, really careful about and we will be and we are going to fight for it and were going to win. And thats what the Green New Deal will do. It will fix all of these problems we keep talking about, you know. Before we go to questions, i think i would love for you to talk about whats in store for you in the next year and what people can do. Well, im sure well address more about things people can do. Whats in store for you this next year . Welcome, i dont go back to work on grace and frankie until mid january, so a lot depends whats going to happen with the covid pandemic. Im itching to get back into the streets. I dont know what im going to do except that im waiting to im staying as healthy as i can. Im staying as positive as i can. Im trying to stay on top of things. Im doing a lot of reading and when the time comes, im going to go back out with the girl friday community and greenpeace and make it happen. You know, we have to really do everything we can to make sure that joe biden gets elected and you know, annie and i run into a lot of young people who were big bernie supporters and theyre not sure they can bring themselves to vote for baiiden. I dont know if ive said this ive done so many interviews. And she lets me use her face, its better to push a separatist than a fight a fascist. So hopefully that will have some effect. So we have to work real hard which friday and greenpeace is doing and many, many other organizations. To make sure that many people are registered to vote and ive had two postal worker people on the last several weeks and theyre quite confident that the Postal Service can handle mailin ballots, but we have to do it soon and make a plan. Once the election is over, no matter who is elected, we have to roll our sleeves up and make sure that on day one, they start doing whats needed. Absolutely, absolutely. We have a bunch of questions, so all right. Sorry, im going to have to look down at my phone, but, i think you kind of spoke to this actually the first question was about a new administration, what do you hope biden and harris will do to address the damage thats already been done by this current administration, denying Climate Change and doing nothing. Do you want to put a little more on that or do you feel oh, i think theres actually a list of ten things that he can do by executive action in the first ten days. You know, he has ten days, we have ten years, and starting on day one, we have to, with executive action do things like declare a climate emergency, get us back into the paris climate treaty and then no new fossil fuel permits, no new fracking permits on public land, begin a gradual phaseout, theres a few more that i cant think of right now, but we are going to have to force him to do that. Were going to have to shut down the government if necessary, but we have to force him to do that. And its not going to be easy, which is why we need many people to read this book and to sign up, jane you text jane 877877 to become a volunteer, and to actually do something and join this army that were building, a nonviolent army to make him do it. The other request is whether its you i keep hearing that nonvoters tend to lean left. Is it the despair and hopelessness that keeps them on the couch . How do we convince them. I dont know if thats true. Im not an expert in why people do or dont vote and things like that. So, im not sure that they tend to be liberal people who dont vote. Im not sure that thats true. What advice would you give for small Environmental Advocacy groups doing local on the groundwork from your perspective. What are the most pressing priorities for or pressing for change within local governments and communities . Its really important for people to realize that, yeah, its good to have a president we can work with and a senate and a house we can work with. Oh, my god, how important are governors, how important are secretaries of state and sheriffs and boards of supervisors and City Councils . You know, down ticket is critical. You know who knew this, the ko Koch Brothers and operatives and think tanks that little by little took over and won state legislatures, governorships and so forth and then suddenly there they were. And people thought it happened overnight, but it was working silently under the radar to make this happen. Granted they had many billions of dollars they were willing to spend on this, but those down ticket races are really, really important. People have to pay close attention. Dont vote for somebody thats taking money from the fossil fuel industry. It says a whole lot about them if they take money from people that are killing us. Leaving their trash behind. What . How do find people find out who theyre taking money from. I think you can go into their Campaign Donation records and find out who gives the money. That by law. Yeah. Thats good to know, i didnt know that and also, i dont know who is all watching, but if any of you who are watching have stocks, invest in stocks, make sure theyre not in fossil fuels or pentagon related, you know, investments and things like that, and try to make sure that your school, your church, your university, your city, that whatever institutions are involved with, divest from the fossil fuel industry, stop the money pipeline is what were calling this part of the movement and its really, really, many trillions of dollars have already been taken out of the fossil fuel industry because of these efforts and it has to continue and get more. Have you been surprised by any pushback or support for your mission from other people in the Entertainment Industry . Thats from cassandra. No. [laughter] i havent been surprised by pushback and i havent been no, i havent been surprised. Maybe im missing something, but no. Thats a good one. Somebo somebody i had the privilege of being arrested during a friday, and had the opportunity to be welcomed into the movement my question, how can we stay focused without burning out when there are so many disasters at the moment, covid, racial justice, ongoing crisis at the border, et cetera, on the top of literal fires of Climate Change . And thats i think that personally, i think its good to look at this moment as arent i lucky to be alive at a time that is so cruci crucial. The entire future of humankind is at stake. Im so glad im alive right now where i can play some role in fighting for that future. Its a generational responsibility that were lucky to have. You know, with every tiny little increase in warming, millions of lives of humans and species will be lost so what a great responsibility we have to make a difference and to save lives of ourselves and our species. So, thats what i thats what i think when i look at the fires and the protests, they fill me with hope. Theres the fires, and diversity on every level. So, this is a terrifying time, but its also, i would wouldnt want to miss it for the world and do something. Even if i cant leave my home or if i was in a wheelchair, theres so much to do. And we talk about it every friday. And each chapter in this book, Annie Leonard and other experts and its user friendly and practical, this has everything that we need to move forward the right way. I love how you state problem solution, problem solution. Yeah, exactly. Personal stories and make it like connect the humanness for all of us. And realize what we are to the planet and each other. Youre amazing. Youre talking like were done. Five more minutes. I would like to talk about civil disobedience lastly, because as this summer has been there has been a lot of civil unrest and rightly so and we had the privilege of getting arrested. I would say, in a way, because we did it for something we believe, we aligned our value and our body. Would you talk about, you know, your birthdays coming up in december and you spent your birthday last year being arrested and spending the night in jail. What is the importance of, yes, peaceful protests, but also civil disobedience and why is it so important. I know it not safe necessarily for a lot of us to go out and do that because of covid, but why will it continue to be vitally important, not just signing petitions, to get our voices out there . Well, history has shown that civil disobedience is what works. Its not where you start, but for 40 years weve petitioned, weve marched, weve protested, weve written articles, weve pleaded. Weve used the leverage that democracy makes available to us, and we havent been heard sufficiently. So, the next step is civil disobedience. Gandhi did it to free india from colonial rule from the british. Martin luther king and the wonderful kids in the south who sat the lunch counters to break a law saying that black people cant sit at these counters, thats civil disobedience, and rosa parks when she refused to sit in the back of the bus, thats civil disobedience. Breaking bad laws is works historically, it changes history. It may be the only thing that does and when we started fire drill fridays and i right about that in the book, we were aiming for people who know, who know theres a Climate Crisis, who know its caused by humans, but they dont know what to do, we offered them something to do and boy, did they start coming from all over the country and annie and i would ask them, have you ever done this before . They were newbies and the yale project on Climate Communication says there are 13 Million People in america who say they would do civil disobedience, but nobodys asked them. So i now think in terms of the great unask. We have to go out and ask the great unasked to come and join us and its a wonderful feeling to put your body in alignment with your values. Its like stepping into authenticity and empowerment. Its wonderful. Very transformative. It definitely transforms. Definitely did. And thanks to you, i learned so much and i know that everybody who came and never been arrested learned so much and they kept coming back. Yeah, we came back for more. It was so diverse. Yeah. Jane, thank you so much. Amber, thank you. Sped right by, amazing. Were actually right on time, its a miracle. You did great, jane and amber thank you so much and thank you to Annie Leonard for doing this. And goes to greenpeace. Yes, all of the book proceeds go to greenpeace. Yes. So consider it your donation. This is one of those books na is imperative to buy right now. And i just am so honored to have you folks and annie here to talk about this extremely pressing issue and its just thank you so much for everything that youve done for the movement. Thank you, and thank you to all the people that tuned in. I really appreciate your presence and your questions. Thanks. Tonight, on the communicators, mit Research Scientist daniel wisener on security and privacy issues with artificial intelligence. The people is that trying to regulate encryption is kind of a quick fix. It might feel good, but its not going to help because the concerted criminal activity is always going to find ways to hide their communications one way or the other and just leave all the rest of us, you know, more vulnerable state. So, im concerned that policy makers really should look at the whole picture when theyre making this choice. Mit Research Scientist daniel wisener, tonight at 8 p. M. Eastern on the communicators. On cspan2. 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