Jane and amber. Very disorienting. And telling me it was so apparent. Almost at a loss of words and how extreme the situation is. So jane fonda needs no introduction. We know her illustrious awardwinning acting career. Currently the netflix hit grace and franky. Allie for critically important social justice issues. Everything is jane the actor jane the activists. So i went to have another side to side will see her new book. Jane is also a devoted, hungry learner. She understood the urgency about climate. She wants to learn more so dove into it into the sites. I remember one briefing in washington d. C. There was an economic and policy one of them said i dont get too much in the weeds. Jane said in the weeds, in the weeds, get in the weeds. She speaks out and listens to voices on the front line of climate impacts. Voices are often ignored. Leading with curiosity inviting others to join her. As such to work with her this year end see it captured in this book. I asked maureen dowd the other day what she thought of the book and she said something right on. She said an odyssey of selfdiscovery. That is a great description and its wonderful we have jane here and guide us joining her on that odyssey. We also have amber with us today to moderate the program. The entrepreneur work on the cutting edge but i know amber for marching together in the streets demanding more from climate action. Throughout all of embers work in fashion in business and activism, she has been committed to inventing smarter function environmental awareness and importantly inspiring others to get involved in the collective part enjoys the work of driving social change. Ambers a dear friend of janes, and a friend of friday spreadsheets toyed multiple fire drill friday speaking, marching we were all arrested together for the Capital Ideas with civil disobedience to draw attention to the Climate Crisis. The impacts which we are seeing unfold to jane and ambers great to see them both. Wish i could give you a big hug. Sending it virtually. Im counting the days till we are back demanding more from cold climate leadership. It was the science and the moment. Until then take it away. Ive got to say, amber i think ive told you this. I was about a year ago what i realized that gratitude berg was right. We have to get out of our comfort zones. I behave like we are in a crisis because we are. Right away the person i knew had to call was andy leonard, the directorate greenpeace. I mean is there a braver organization than greenpeace . I know they embrace big strong powerful actions at wake people up. Annie is at the helm. Just mean so much of me because of annie and greenpeace we could get this going and its continuing. Soon i cant wait to get to all of that i hear exactly how fire drill fridays starting. And jane thank you for asking me to it do this. Thank you for politics and prose for hosting us. And annie for all of your work and greenpeace. I love you guys. It has been a real honor to march with you and be arrested and to learn from you. I feel so internally blessed to be here tonight. I just want to say when i was reading your book, jane, i loved how personal this book was. Because you are talk about very big subjects. You are time have big issues that we are facing about Climate Change. And that you interwoven your own personal history and your own stories. I found it so inspiring. It has helped to make it human and connect the dots. I hope others will find that right when you start by saying that she appeared. I love hearing all the stories on the people who showed up for you or people from the past. Its amazing. I know you have been an activist for many issues. We were also keenly aware of the Environmental Issues as early as the 70s. But what really legend, actually a year ago now, to start fire drill fridays . Is pretty depressed. I kept asking what can i do . I did all the personal things britta got rid of single use plastic spread cut way back on meat, i have an electric car. But i know that is the onramp. That is the first step. But those of us who were celebrities had a platform. I dont use my platform appropriately . Who is naomi kleins book and maybe some of the people watching have read is called on fire the burning case for a greener deal. I was that book that really shook me. How she quoted greta the body on the line. Okay, alright, my first desire i said i want to move im good at live in a tent and camp out in front of the white house. And i remember the silence on the phone. She said thats great jane, thats great you want to put yourself out there but its illegal. We cant camp out anymore. So we have to find another way. I we eventually worked out the once a week friday fire drills. Stomach i love how you came up with that name. It was so interesting. We didnt know what to call up or a documentary film and crew following us. We spent a day in the room to figure out the name he couldnt think of one were packing up to go in the sound guy on the documentary said what about fire drill friday . We said thats the way. [laughter] so youre still kind of about feeling despair and you know, i think we all now that covid hit with all been challenge with feeling despair and sort of what is going to happen coupled with what is happening right now here in california. That massive hurricane that had in texas and louisiana. Not just here in the United States but all over the world. We are seeing the effects of Climate Change. How do you say above all that to keep fighting . How do you stay above that despair . Sometimes i dont. It is just heartbreaking what is happening. Who in california who just today on the news said, he will not tolerate people who are denying Climate Change. But he keeps signing permits for further fossil fuel drilling and infrastructure and fracking. That is what we have to stop as a fossil fuels. So when i see someone like gavin newsom and half of the state is on fire. Claims and in many way is, a climate activist print but he cannot stand up to oil. So i get kind of down. Out of its talking to them being with the young claimant stryker and many have been on fire drill fridays with me since ive been back in california. X knowing how people change for ago we in d. C. At year ago, i think annie was one of them. I think 16 people got arrested. And when we left it was well over 300 people. You remember. And now we have been doug them for six months virtually. Last friday we had seven have 50000 people following us. Which is pretty amazing. Tens of thousands of people have signed up to be volunteers. Calling and writing and texting. And loving how they feel they are making a difference. That is what bullies me up and helps me get over climate despair. And taking action, right . I think the first time you arrested a year ago, on that first rally. So much has changed, especially in the United States. But globally to theres been a lot of upheaval. Here in the United States we have seen the big summer full of protests. And just massive amounts of social change. How do you feel now when you think about that first arrest compared to now . Snack im glad her than ever that i was there and i did it. And annie and all those other wonderful people were there with me on that first day we kept at it. Israel scary in the beginning, we did not know. There are more photographers than protesters. We didnt know if is going to gain traction. But in the midst of the crippling crises theres climate theres the coed pandemic and theres the uprising following george floyd. This is an important time. Its a time when not only to have to do with the election making sure biting gets elected, we also have to really dig deep into ourselves and figure who we are. We want to be . I we have to fundamentally i hope we will, we have to change the way we think and feel and function in order to care for each other. And not let these dog whistling politicians, really dont care about us at all, lead us down a dead end road, which is whats happening now. I always tend to look at the bright side. Covid did not break us. Covid exposed we were already broken. So people saw things that i dont think they were aware of. They didnt realize how our federal government has been so weakened and crippled. By the guidance in the white house right now. When you are facing a pandemic in a Climate Crisis you need a strong federal government that is coordinated and strategic and prepared. People need to face whats happening when they have that. Get the thing is Pay Attention to the experts. The experts any scientists which is not been happening. And then i think that people are seeing the essential workers the Domestic Workers the delivery people, all of the people that make our lives function that are getting so little in return, clapping for them in the evening which is enough. In the future they are able to earn a decent living to support themselves. But all these things and reflect on who we are as a people from i we are being shaken awake. Thats one of things i have come to realize its really getting involved in different types of activism. Is that all of these paths converge. That racial justice, womens issues, labor issues, clothing, everything, oil industry, clean air, everything emerges into one all past lead jerome. I think people dont realize how interconnected everything is. I know you have brought so much that to light and fire drill fridays. That is what each fire drill friday was about a different issue. You also had people speaking about different backgrounds and collaborated with people from different backgrounds. Can you talk about why its important to collaborate. That week collaborate with different movements as well . We are not going to win unless we collaborate. You are absolutely right amber when you say they are all interconnected. The mindset im sorry to say the foundation of the United States, that built the economy of the United States is slavery. It is a mindset that people are fungible. The land is to be used and overuse and then discarded and moved on. Theres always a place you can move through theres always a new frontier. We treated human beings in the land and nature as disposable. And now we are at the far extreme of that mindset of what its given birth to. Late stage capitalism, globalis globalism, and it is staring us right in the face. Its all the same thing. We cant just have a new politician and new policies, left avenue paradigm which guides us into the future. Yes, its all about a new paradigm shift. I think one of the things that is so important having that big shift is listening to the use. They feel so they dont understand how we could have pissed away their future. I know you had a lot of young activists come and work with you during fire drill friday. And i am even friends of some of these young people on instagram now. When i talk too personally. Talk about how you merged you are a woman of you did not necessarily need to do that. I knew guys at greenpeace all join together. Imagine if i hadnt. Imagine this aging movie star from hollywood had popped into d. C. And started these actions on friday without ever meeting with the folks that had been there every friday for a year already. I mean, it would not have worke worked. It is to annies credit, she knew that in order for this to work. Before anything was done we need to sit down with the let people who would already been there. That included the young climate strikers could also include the heads of all the other environmental organizations that believe in action. There are some environmental organizations that believe in conservation. I dont do make actions. We got the organizations together that understanding value of actions. Really it was together that we figured out what we needed to do. A lot of the later spoke at the rally. And then i brought in celebrities who were my friends because, not to pretend they were experts for other ted danza knows a lot about the oceans. To be the ones that introduced the frontline people. These people of color, these young women, these young Indigenous People from Standing Rock. People whose voices are not heard normally. We wanted to use our celebrity to give them a platform. And boy their stories were potent and heartbreaking and importance. But you know, there is one it was environmental justice, i think was this particular friday. What a lineup. There was a young girl from Standing Rock and then there is abby needs of walt disney. Arianna from houston who lives in the shadow of a refinery described what it was like and everybody had lung disease and so forth. Then it was bobby kennedy. It was just beautiful. And it made me so happy. One of the things i love about this book, you look at the pictures you can see how it was centered in joy. Love. You can see the love in peoples faces. It was great. There is a lot of support. I know when i was there several times there is a lot of love and support. I brought my mom to the very last fire drill friday in d. C. And martin sheen spoke. He gave that amazing im not even sure whose speech it was. It was so powerful. He was so generous and gracious with so many people. There were so many other incredible people that came that day. There were activists and people from all over. It was just powerful. He did an amazing job. What about some of the real demand to all were making through fire drill friday . One of the biggest are not the biggest boot talk about a lot in the book. I dont know if a lot of people fully understand the Green New Deal. Would you give a very quick responsible summaries so that people who are listening can understand why it is so important. Civic i think its easy to understand it if i start off describing what happens if we dont. There you go. We are facing out of coal there all these coal miners a lot of them have black lung because of their work. And west virginia, kentucky the mines are closed down. The owners of the mines have canceled healthcare for these people. Theyre supposed to support mine workers. That has disappeared. There are all of these out of work home miners who see no future, who have no institutional help, right . They are the victims of the transition away from fossil fue fuel. That cannot happen. We need to make sure that when we move from a fossil fuel based energy economy, that the workers and communities and families are impacted by that transition are trained for new jobs. Where they live, in their communities. Union jobs but the right to collective bargaining, so that they dont lose anything. Except now their jobs are healthy and clean and are still earning a decent salary. Because the fossil fuel industry there is a unionized, a lot of the workers are unionized. So they can earn 85 or hundred thousand dollars a year. It is a good living. We cant ask them to leave that and go to work making solar panels for 30,000 dollars a year, he thousand dollars a yea year. So what the Green New Deal does is it is a resolution. It is a vision of how to move forward in such a way that we leave no one behind. That we raise up, not just that we dont retrain the fossil fuel workers to work in the green economy, we raise up those who work in the low carbon sectors. The ones we call essential workers now. And they are in a place they do not live in constant anxiety about how much money they are earning. They would earn a decent salary and they would be respected and they would have family leave. They could have maternity and paternity leave. They were taken care of when they were sick. We should take care of our people, our working people. The Green New Deal gives us a way to do that. To move away from fossil fuel into a caring, clean sustainable economy. Now, it is kind of like what roosevelt did in the 30s when he was trying to lift this country out of its despair during the great depression. And by the way, he didnt just do it because he was a great guy. There were millions of people who forced him to do it. And he said to them at one point i agree with you. Not go out and make me do it. Because the same kind of people that were opposed to him, i was once married to a guy whose father, while he was already dead, the father, but he wouldve killed me me had he been live knowing his son was marrying someone who loved roosevelt. My father the only time i saw him cry it was the day roosevelt died. Those part of our dna as a family. Big brave bold actions to lift people up. That is what the Green New Deal does. Its not lunches take green paint and paint over the conservation corps and all those programs with the Green New Deal with the original green deal. It requires changing the way we think and the way we live. And all the people who are opposed to what they say its too expensive its not real, sounds like socialism. Just the way did with franklin donor roosevelt in the 30s. One of the thing the Covid Pandemic is shown that when theres an emergency the government can come up with money. So now we just have to have them the money needs to be used. Not to put us back where we were before, but use the covid money after the elections and please god that we make it turn out the way it needs to. The money needs to go to putting people to work in a green economy. And we need, our country is not resilient. We do not have a country that can stand up to whats coming. I mean look what happened in california. Look whats happening in houston and louisiana. We lack resilience. Our homes, our stores, our schools, hospitals or Health Care Systems need to be shored up and restructured so they can withstand the assaults that are coming. Absolutely. Even when you look at all of our bridges, roads, our bandwidth and internet, electrical, everything. Pipelines arent bad, pipe ones goods lets move them away from piping oil to piping clean water in flint michigan all the places that dont have clean water. As a victim of the Climate Crisis is the lack of water it is scary. Directly to that point, looking at flint and talk about lack of water and drinkable water, how much this country, our racial and economic inequalities are linked to Climate Crisis. I mean talk about the disparity between you have this white privilege. You never have an oil drill or no clean water in santa monica. You not have an oil drill shooting out chemicals and poor air quality for people in aye privilege neighborhood. Were you do in low Income Housing and indigenous communities. They are being franked and drilled. There is a huge disparity. Even though we will all feel the change eventually. We will all avert the crisis. Talk about how linked these racial inequalities are to Climate Change. You know, i write about in the book. Annie, after she got out of school and studied i dont how she describes it, but she studied things like why you would how you would choose where to put an oil rig or a refinery, or waste dump or Something Like that. In his school she was taught well you dont put it close to an aquifer, you put in this type of geological place for obvious reasons. When she got out of school and faced reality theres a study that came out of think it was 1987 if im not mistaken, that showed how the decisions were made about where to put the fossil fuel infrastructures and refineries and incinerators and everything in communities of color and low income communities. Where it is assumed they do not have the power to fight back. And so generation after generation grows up in the situations where kids are constantly having to use emulators with methane over the playing fields. People are dying of cancer and Heart Disease in all kinds of things because they are called sacrifices zones, these places. We focused on that several times with the fire drill fridays. And now we are south of there the whole community, wilmington where you can just smell in the air. The pump so they go up and down throwing their oil, right next to a home right next to a school because they are hispanic. So they cant fight back. While they are fighting back no now. And we are all standing together in this fight back. Because that has to stop. It is one reason why those communities are so much more vulnerable to the Covid Pandemi pandemic. They are already suffering from lung diseases and other things that make them very vulnerable. Host exactly. I know that women are also disproportionately affected by Climate Change. Many of the refugees we are seeing around the world are women. Guest 80 . There also caregivers in general are the ones going out and working and taking care of the children at the same time. So, how do you see women leading this Climate Change . This claimant movement . There were a lot of reasons women are in the leadership theres also a lot of really good men. There a lot of really good men leading. Two thirds of the people there were women and a lot of them have gray hair a lot of that is hormonal. Men tend to get less they become a little more sedentary, there is more estrogen and testosterone in the men. As our estrogen drops and so theres more testosterone. We get pretty feisty. Also women are less vulnerable to the disease of individualism. We are conditioned socially to depend on each other more. But its also think evolutionar evolutionary. When back in the hundred gathered days, it was the men who would go out to fight me which often never happened because they couldnt find any. But it was us, sitting on the campfire helping each other give birth and take care of the young children, the older women tell the younger women were the tiger was hiding her where the water was better or the poisoned weeds were growing. We became conscious of being interdependent. And that grew into sewing circles and quilting bees in book clubs. We hang together. And the way we are with each others just different, it is. We relate facetoface, i to i own a soul level. And feel kinda bad because men are kind of side to side looking out the car races or sports or whatever. Its a little bit less on a soul level the weight they are with each other. This is extremely important right now. Because the people who are in charge, want us to believe that individualism is a good thing. They are trying to make the word collective a bad word. And women dont fall for that. So i think its one of the reasons that we, we also relate to the earth more than men do. We are the ones that bear the children. And boy did children suffer with the Climate Crisis. Because we carry toxins in our bodies. We have more body fat than men do. The toxins go into fats. Thats why whales, i camera the word now, they sequester, whales sequester in their fat. Women sequester toxins in our body fat. Goes into the fetus goes into the breast milk. And kids are getting really sick in huge numbers. All over the world part i want to know right to lifers dont get on bandwagons to stop the Climate Crisis if they care so much about children, right . So theres all kinds of reasons that women are in the leadership of this vital movement. In africa, you know they come up with the ideas of having solar panels to heat schools and bring light into cottages so the babies are not born and surgeries are not done by candlelight. And also, all the countries that have women in leadership roles, tend to be the ones that sign the claimant treaties. So when theyve also done better during covid. Yes that is right good points. Yes. Host beautiful. So who are your heroes . Im just curious. I know you are surrounded by incredibly. Guest i am. Heroes are my friends, my women friends. The influencer, Laura Flanders and elizabeth lesser, and Annie Leonard, you know you my friends are my heroes. Sue and what we love you jane you are our hero. This doesnt seemed like it would be connected to Climate Change, but, war. Were talking about women, now this is generally driven by men, not to bash men at all but is driven by that power. And i dont think most people even think the two are connected. But Climate Change is vastly connected to war. In the last 80 years, all of the wars havent fought over oil. Oil is our number one offender, talk about how we could possibly change that. Cody move some of the military budget over to the greater deal . Guest now youre talking. I did not realize how connected the military is to the Climate Crisis. The pentagon is the Worlds Largest user of fossil fuels. Now this really blew my mind. The military has been exempted. The pentagon has been exempted from environmental regulations. And as a result, superfund sites are all around military bases. Guys are getting that, i mean lethally sick from the toxins that are in and around military bases. You have, what the u. S. Forces did in iraq. Uranium, spent uranium things tossed into villages. They are not going to get in trouble because they are not going to be held to account, right . Environmental regulations. Then on top of all that we have the largest, such as the Largest Military budget in the world, our military budget is larger than at the, iran, china, north korea, all of the big countries combined our military budget is bigger. You know . We have basis, i cant member now how many. But we have bases all over the world. Other countries do not have that many bases. We have i dont know a dozen aircraft carriers, russia has maybe one. Its just ridiculous. A huge portion of every dollar in america close to the military. Is it making us safer . No its not. Whats makes us safe is children who dont have asthma and homes that will withstand storms. People not worried about eating or things like that. So we have to take that money, we have to take the money away for the fossil fuel industry. Right now its been 20 billion a year, we do, taxpayer Student Support the fossil fuel industry for a that many take the pentagon money and put it into the Green New Deal. Put into a green future. Education, innovation, collaboration. Right . Yeah. What about water. We know water is life. I loved when you talked about in your book how important whales were. And of course everyone loves a whale. Its an important mammal. But how important they are to actually Climate Change. They sequester so much carbon. Make algae and plankton, we dont realize those species are those plants they actually are creating, helping us with the air we breathe cleaning it taking the carbon out. Some only disturb all of that, we harm ourselves. Its a price the ocean is one of our greatest allies in addressing the Climate Crisis. The water in the ocean, the plankton in the ocean, the whales, all of those animals and plankton absorbing our poisons and our carbons and absorb so much of our heat. And, as a result its becoming acidified. What happens is the plankton that creates, supplies us with our oxygen are being damaged. Thats pretty scary, i mean whats going to happen when the ocean cant supply us with oxygen anymore . Look whats happening in the amazon as it is burning down. So you know, our lifesupport system is unraveling. The scientists tell us we have ten years to cut fossil fuel emissions in half and then begin to gradually phase out to zero by 2050 by mid century. That is a huge undertaking. It is a greater task than is ever happened before in human history. But the scientist tells we can do it. We have the smarts, the money, the technology, we have everything we need except numbers of people ready to roll up their sleeves and make it happen. And that is why i am so committed to fire drill friday and greenpeace. Yeah. Water. So much good is being done around water. So what i was there. Switch to on that fire drill friday we did on water, Annie Leonard got borrowed to come which was a big two. Modest like the water person in the world but she knows more about water and what to do. And she has been creating all over the world, they are called blue moon miss a pallet is . Whether it is a community, a church, a university, whole city, a whole country can make the determination that it is going to go blue. Each means i will not have privatized water, water will be a public right taken care for people. We will have a piped system is transported that is clean and resilient. A huge percentage of Water Management in the knighted states are really worried that they wont withstand anymore extreme weather events. They are too vulnerable right now. Fax the system that takes our water relies on that system to be strong. I mean it is scary. Theres so many millions of people in the world dont have clean water. Its going to keep expanding. So water is something we need to be really, really careful about. We will be, were gonna fight for to be will win. We will. That is with the Green New Deal will do. It will fix all these problems we keep talking about. Before we go to questions, i think, i would love for you to talk about what is in store for you in the next year end what people can do. Im sure we will dress more things about what people can do. But what is in store for you this next year . Guest like dont go back to work on grace and franky until midjanuary. So a lot depends what happens with the Covid Pandemic. I am itching to get back into the streets. I dont know what im going to do except that i am waiting im staying as healthy as i can. Im staying as positive as a kid, im trying to stay on top of things. Im redoing a lot of reading. When the time comes, going to go back out with the fire drill friday community and greenpeace. And make it happen. You know we have to do everything we can to make sure that joe biden gets elected. And annie and i run into a lot of young people who were big bernie supporters. Theyre not sure they can bring themselves to vote for biden. I dont know if ive already said this, then so many interviews today. But this is what annie says to them, she let me use her phrase. Its better to push than fight a fascist. So hopefully that will have some effect. So we have to work real hard with fire drill friday and greenpeace is doug and many, many other organizations to make sure as many people are registered to vote and will vote. I have had to Postal Worker Union workers on fire drill friday the last several weeks. They are quite confident that the Postal Service can handle mail in ballots for the have to do soon have to make a plan. Once the election is over, no matter who is elected, we have to roller sleeves up and make sure that on day when they start doug whats needed. Host absolutely. Absolutely. We have a bunch of questions. So, alright. Sorry minute to down at my phon phone. I think you kind of spoke to this actually read the first question was about the new administration. What you hope biden and harris do to address the damage its already been done by this current administration, denying Climate Change and doug nothing. Join up a little more on that . Think theres actually listed ten things he can do by executive action in the first ten days. He has ten days, we have ten years and on day one he has to, with the executive action to things like declare climate emergency, get us back into the paris climate treaty. And then no new fossil fuel permits. No new fracking permits on public land. Begin a gradual phaseout, theres a few more that i cant think of right now. Were good have to force him to do that. We are gapped to shut down the government if necessary. But we have to force him to do that. It is not going to be easy which is why we need many people to read this book and to sign up jane, you text jane to 877877 to become a volunteer and to actually do something and join this army that we are building a nonviolent army to make him do it. Host absolutely. The other question is i keep hearing that non voters tend to lean left. Is it despair and hopelessness that keeps them on the couch . How do we convince them to vote . Guest i dont know if thats true. I am not an expert in why people do or dont vote. And things like that. So i am not sure. Im not sure they tend to be liver people who do not vote im not sure that is true. Sue and what advice would you give her small Environmental Advocacy groups doug local on the ground work . From your perspective were the most pressing priorities with pressing for change for local governments and communities . Guest its really important for people to realize that it is good to have a president who we can work with. And a senate and a house that we can work with. But oh my god how important are governors . How important are secretaries of state . And sheriffs and boards of supervisors and city council, down ticket is critical. June who did this . The Koch Brothers and all of these oligarchs in america. Under the radar created all of these operatives in think tanks and political organizations that little by little took over and won state legislatures governorships and so forth. And suddenly, there they were. And people thought it happen overnight. It was working silently under the radar to make this happen. Now granted that many mill billions of dollars are willing to spend on this. But this down ticket races are really, really important. People have to pay close attention. Dont vote for somebody is taking money from the fossil fuel industry. That says a whole lot about them if they take money from, people who are killing us. Leaving the trash behind. Sue and how does someone find out who people are taking money from . Guest i think you can go into their Campaign Donation records to find out gives them money. Sue and thats really good to knowing to not know that. Guest and also, i dont know who all is watching, if any of you who are watching have stocks, invest in stocks, make sure they are not in fossil fuels. Or pentagon related investments and things like that. And try to make sure that your school, your church, your university, your city, that whatever institutions you are involved with invest from the fossil fuel industry. Stop the money pipeline. Has were calling in this Movement Toward many trillions of dollars have already been taken of the fossil fuel industry because of these efforts. And it has to continue and get more. C1 have you been surprised by any pushback or support from emission from other people in the Entertainment Industry . Guest no. [laughter] i have not been surprised by pushback . No i havent been surprised. Maybe im missing something but no. Sue and thats a good one. I had the privilege of being arrested during a fire drill friday and im so thankful to have had the opportunity to be welcomed into the movement. My question is, how can we stay focused without burning out when there are so many disasters at the moment, covid, racial justice, the ongoing crisis of the border et cetera. On the top of liberal fires with Climate Change. Guest personally, i think that it is good to look at this moments arent i lucky to be live at a time that is so crucial. The entire future of humankind is at stake. I am so glad i am live right now where i can place some role in fighting for that future. It is a generational responsibility that we are lucky to have. With every tiny little increase in warming, millions of lives of humans and species will be lost. So what a great responsibility we have two make a difference and to save lives of ourselves and our species. That is what i think when i look at the fires and the protests, they filled me with hope. Not the fires. But we are so wonderful because of the diversity on every level. So it is a terrifying time, but it is also i would not want to miss it for the world. Im so glad im still live and able to do something. Even if i could not leave my home. Even if i was in a wheelchair, there is so much you can do. We talk about every friday. And this book, every chapter is about a different aspect of the Climate Crisis. In the end of each section is a section called what can i do written by Annie Leonard and other experts for its very userfriendly and very practica practical. So this like has everything that we need to move forward the right way. So what i love how you state problem, solution, problem, solution, a personal story and you make it human that connected to human us for all of us. I think that is what is so vitally important right now. That we realize how connected we are to the planet and to each other. You are amazing. So when youre talking like were done. [laughter] stomach five minutes. I would like to talk about civil disobedience lastly. Because as the summer, theres been a lot of civil unrest and rightly so. When we had the privilege of getting arrested, i would say in a way because we did it for something we believed would be lined values and our bodies. Would you talk about, you know, your birthday is coming up in december. And you spent your birthday last year being arrested and spending the night in jail. What is the importance of yes peaceful protests. Also civil disobedience. Why is it so important . I know its not safe right now necessarily for a lot of us because of covid. But why will it continue to be vitally important, not just signing petitions. To get our voices out there. Guest well, history has shown civil disobedience is what works. Its not where you start. But for 40 years, we have petition, with march we protests as we written articles we have pleaded, we have used all of the levers that democracy makes available to us. And we have not been heard sufficiently. So the next step is civil disobedience. God needed it to free india by rule by the british. Martin luther king and all those wonderful kids in the couch and turned south that set at the lunch counter to break a law saying black people cant sit at these counters, that civil disobedience. And they were beaten badly forward and put in jail. Rosa parks and she refuses at the back of the bus, that is civil disobedience. She was arrested for. Breaking bad laws and being willing to get arrested for is what works historically. It changes history. It may be the only thing that does. And, only started fire drill fridays, i write about that in the book. We were aiming for people who know there is a Climate Crisis and no its caused by humans. But theyre not sure what to do. We offer them something to do and voided they start coming from all over the country. Annie and i would ask them, have you ever done this before . They were newbies. And that gail project on Climate Communication says there are 13 Million People in america and said they would do civil disobedience but no one has asked them. So i now think of the great un asked. We have to go out and ask the great and asked to come and join us. It is a wonderful feeling to put your body in alignment with your values. It is like stepping into authenticity and empowerment. It is wonderful. Very transformative. It is definitely transformin transforming. Definitely did, and thanks to you i learned so much great and i know everybody who came ended never been arrested learned so much. Guest and they kept coming back. We went yes we came back for more. Guest is so diverse. Host jane, thank you so much. Amber thank you. It sped right by. [laughter] its amazing. I think we are actually right on time it is a miracle. [laughter] host you did great, amber thank you so much. Thank you everyone for doug this. All of this proceeds go to greenpeace. So consider your donation. This is one of those books that is imperative to buy right now. And i am just so honored to host jane and annie here to talk about this extremely pressing issue. Thank you so much for everything youve done for the movement. Guest thank you and thank you to all the people who tuned in we really appreciate your presence and your questions. Thanks. Host here are some of the bestselling nonfiction books according to the boston globe. Topping the list is rage, Pulitzer Prize winning Journalist Bob Woodward examination of president Trumps National on Foreign Policy decisions. After that Pulitzer Prize winning author Isabel Wilkerson just floors what she talks about a hidden system in the United States. 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