Recent Political Trends given clues on how the state might vote in november. Today our focus is North Carolina. Were joined now by Jason Roberts university of North Carolina chapel hill professor mr. Roberts happened in 2016 in the state of North Carolina. Why is it a battleground state heading into november . 2016 was one of the least close elections. They been very evenly divided, 2008 barack obama had a very narrow victory here on president obama. President trump won by about three points heremp in 2016. The biggest change between 2008 and 2012 to 2016, we saw a sharp decline in turnout in 2016. House the ray shaping up for november . Is very, very close. If you look at the real politics average going into today, they have Vice President biden with. 5 lead. Think its the closest of any of the battleground states gradual thing ive seen a poll yet this election season that shows either candidate leading outside the pole margin of error. At this point its 50 52 close to call. And a candidate when the white house a without winning the state of North Carolina . Certainly. I think for Vice President biden it will be nice for him to win North Carolina from his point of view. Thinking can put together a winning without that if he wins the battleground states. President trump i think north cologne is a must win pretty think that its been reflecting what we are seeing from the trump campaign. There on air at a lot of ads. President trump bee here today prwill be a visit to North Carolina. In the month of september alone. This is the former post president coming to charlotte on wednesday, the campaign focuses on North Carolina that is the headline from the news observer. So when you look at the map of North Carolina, where it does trump need to win. Where does the former Vice President into wood in the state . North carolina is a very diverse state with the tech sector weve a large military presence around fayetteville. So lots of rural areas. So President Trump needs to rackck up large margins in the rural areas. The former Vice President need to do while the cities had each improve upon if he wants to win the state. What is early voting, mail and voting looking like at the state at this point . Crazy to be honest with you. If had a Record Number of mail in ballot request. The first in the country to send out mail and ballots. Think as of yesterday over 170,000 absentee belts have been mailed back and accepted in North Carolina. I think we are approaching about 1 million mail in ballot request. This is a state that had about four and a half million cast in 2016point we are approaching about accorded the electorate has requested and there still about a month left to request a mailin ballot. What safeguards are put in place in the state to protect the legitimacy of mailin ballots there . Its actually very secure. I serve on her local county board of elections. I really thought hard about one could go about circumventing the controls in place. Its really difficult to do. The Computer System knows whether youve sent the ballot if it has been accepted or not. Your belt has been accepted from the mailin, to not be to vote on election date you could vote provisional would not be accepted. I feel very confident in that. T went invite the viewers to join in on this conversation as well. Battleground series the focuses North Carolina and we have divided the lines by which candidate you support. If you have former Vice President and center hairs out 202 7488000 if youre supporting President Trump and Vice President tent two oh 27488001. If you are undecided or supporting someone else, 202748002. When then a line for North Carolina, residents this morning, 202 7488003. So, when will ballots be counted in the state of North Carolina . I think will have a good idea what the results look like on electionha night. They allow county boards to process ballot started about five weeks before the election. Think next tuesday the 29th be the first meeting were boards of elections eight to process absentee ballots. Those that arise before election day that arise by the middle of theyre down election day they will be processed have run through the machine and recorded in the first batch of results. Now you can have your belts postmarked through election day. Those that are postmarked by election day those will not be any of the accounts with the Election Night. Given the rate of return on mail m ballots withl a mostly but votes will be in by Election Night. But will we know who won the state of North Carolina on Election Night . Thats hard to say. They have been close. The Gubernatorial Race the wind was about 10000 votes over 4 million cast. So if its that closeness with the pole is suggesting may be a well before we know. House the senate race there shaping up . What impact could that have on the president ial race . The senate races also quite competitive. Interesting dynamic in this races with most of the point ive seen senators running behind Cal Cunningham and the support is not as high as what President Trump had the state. So for him to win the seat, hes going to have to bring out this people horse supporting the president but not supporting him. And why not . What is that discrepancy there . What is happening . I think center telesis had a difficult time navigating the complexities of the party areen now there are some that dont perhaps support President Trump. And he has been in some ways very loyal to President Trump or think that is turned offed some people. The same time center tills or tried to separate himself from trump in various ways. I think that has offended some of President Trumps most ardent supporters. Theydl tried to thread these needles in a fury man stabbed himself a little bit there. He is really trying now to really lapse on to the president and close the gap between his support of what the president is receiving an state right now. Often the 2018 midterms in your state, how do you think that impacts the 2020 race inth november . 2008 team is very similar to other states. We found a very high turnout, very high turnout especially among democratic voters. Several state House Speaker and state senate seats hoslipped. The republicans had a super majority going into the 2018 election they lost that going out. If democrats were counting on that enthusiasm in 2018 caring over into 2020. Its difficult, john in st. Louis missouri supporting themo biden harris to get good morning. Caller good morning maam how are you . Sue and find junko ahead with your question or comment. Caller my question is, about the young lady who was killed in her home. Is it okay for me to it speak on that . C1 how do you think it relates to the election . Caller well number one, and has a lot of confusion and its motivated by the election. The political argument in terms of hope apologies thought we lost him there. You can try calling. Back. Well take up this issue of what we are seeing across the country. The breonna at taylor grand jury decision, how do you think all of that dynamic plays in the state of North Carolina . I think a place like a placement lot of the country. He mentioned before we are very diverse state. Of a lot of rural areas of the state that a very supportive of President Trump and the police. We also have a lot of residents who have experienced the issues we experience in other issues and this is an issue for voters here opposes some the other battleground states with a greater than 20 africanamerican population North Carolina. That is a big part of the vote here. And how is the former Vice President doing with africanAmerican Voters . How is the president going with them . Typically the Democratic Party does much better with the africanamerican vote than does the Republican Party. You can see a lot of effort by Vice President biden. He is running new ads this week. Both of them feature africanamerican women who are Small Business owners. All parts of the state one is entitled kimberly and in what is celeste where they both feature Small Business owners who are complaining about the way the cares act is implemented and how to has affected their lives. Its a very clear effort on hisve part to try to relate to the african about here. Select warrenton, now enjoy North Carolina. Yes. C1 good morning go ahead. We were saying thinking about. [inaudible] onco the barcodes correct . Are the barcodes correct on the ballots in warrington or any other county if you looking . Professor robert can you answer that . Yes the new mail m ballots to have a barcode on them. It allows the voters to go onto the ballot track on the internet and track in their ballot. Was entered by the county board they conceive their palette has been mailed. Think importantly for people given the mail in ballot they will be able to see if there county board has scanned innate ballots and received it. Kathie from ohio supporting the president. High kathie. High. I am wondering, how does he feel that the appointments and the announcing of the president s to the Supreme Court, how do you think that is going to affect the christian votes ine america . Guest that is certainly very issue for evangelical voters. This is something that is immobilized that section of the electric for years. They feel very strongly that Supreme Court affects a lot of the social issues they care about including abortion. And so a big reason why President Trump did so well this group in 2016 was his focus on appointing conservative justices and the current opening battle over the opening will highlight for the voters. It may help the president or that group of individuals. What about in the state of North Carolina who care about this issue . That tops their list and how they vote. Yes it does. Its a very important issue. It may end up helping senator tillis was somebody voters who support the president of not been supportingid him. Senator tillis has been very outspoken about this thing but he will support whoever the president nominates whoever it is. I think is really trying to attachng himself to the president to try to bring inde those voters that maybe were little more reluctant to supporte him. Host how big is up voting bloc in North Carolina . Guest thats hard to say based on turnout. Its a fastgrowing state. Understate the move in and out of the lot. Especially bit over a million peopleve moved in and out of the state since we last vote in a president ial election 2016. It is really hard to know how the electorate with the continuing of the electorate is election to election given the flux in the population. To nj at Long Beach California supporting biting, good morning to you. Caller good morning to both ofca you, thank you for taking my call. So you guys, have worked in many elections for quite some time. Even worked in 2016, im not worried about that. But what i amm concerned about is a comment yesterday that related donald trump set even if he loses hes going to win. So i am wondering, are you guys going to certified the bout . I going to honor the well the people are you going to allow it to be circumvented and vacated . Thats my question, thank you. Guest i think certainly all of us up the ballot results will be accurate and be certified by the certain the intention of the board of elections here at the local and state level but we a process called the canvas. In the second friday after the election they will be official. I did see the president s comments yesterday its always unclear whether to take this seriously or not. Certainly frightens a lot of people who fears those comments. Think weve seen in the years of President Trump is been in office theres a lot of things he doesnt follow through on. So this is one of those issues i think you care about the integrity of the process hope its one of the things hes saying something about but will not follow through. Reporting the president. Yes, i do support the president. Iat dont think that biden will win and North Carolina. I dont think he will win in virginia. I think virginia will flip it back because people are tired of listening to the democrats do nothing butbu hate trump. Policy wants to impeach him again after three years and waste more money instead of taking care of the american people. That is ridiculous. Trump has done a great deal part i wish everyone would learn on the news, cnn, msnbc, he is President Trump not donald trump or trump, or that guy. It is a respect for the white house, for the position, no is in, democrats dont do that. When a democrat wins republicans accepted and going roa road. What a republican wins, all everybody hates it, everybody screams and yells. We dont burn down buildings as republicans. Alright doug, professor roberts how large is the president s base support in the state of North Carolina . I think its very similar here that it is in other states. Mid 40 of the electorate here seems to be with the president. A unique thing about President Trump is his Approval Ratings have both and North Carolina and nationwide have very little since he took office. Its highly and usually we trackf how president ial popularity. So his bases supported that support them in 2016 i believe is still with them. Thee question for his his campaign is coming expand that base enough to win and states that have changed in ways North Carolina has . C1 south carolina. Good morning. Caller goodar morning. I have a question for you, i understand that two people resigned from the North Carolina election board. I want to know why and what effect would it have on the North Carolina election . Guest i think with the collar is referencing and i only sought literally one minute before we came on the air. The two republican members of the state board of elections resigned late last night. I have n not had a chance to look into that as to why they reside, with the dynamics are of that i do believe the process would be that the governor could appoint two replacements for this individuals. They could serve for the rest of the election cycle. Sue and anita, cherokee North Carolina. Caller yes my comment is for mr. Roberts. I actually just, while i mailed off my absentee ballots and had it postmarked on the day that i did. This is my very First Time Ever voting. I think people get intimidated with justt registering to vote. And trying to find out i guess the ins and outs of it. But you know it was very, very simple and very easy to do. So i encourage people to get out and to get motivated to vote and to usury voice. Even if this i is your first time to vote in an election. I think it is very, very important. It is a way for us to be heard. So thank you so much. Thank you certainly. My point of view is that people have of your politics and encourage them to register. The colors correct theres stuff taken in North Carolina to make it simpler. The. Absentee ballot is much easier to fill out than it was for the primary here. The layout of it is little more busy its a little clearer the voter to see what they need to do to fill up the envelope properly. Im hoping to be fewer rejected ballots in the past as a result of that. Ration during the Charlotte Observer say absentee belts and black voters are rejected at higher rates of those of white voters. Do you know what is happening . Guest i saw that story. In some ways that stories little misleading. At this stage of the election no ballot has officially been rejected. What will happen if there is a deficiency and how that mail and ballots was cast, the board of elections will contact those individuals and allow them for the process so that there is a missing signature or the witness information is incorrect where there is a process by which they can fix that. The nice thing about so many people trying to vote early in the process is it gives them time to solve any problems that arise from inadvertently filling the ballot wrong in an incorrect way. Caller yes im delighted to be here with you this morning prayed the fayetteville rally was a wonderful. President trump was very, very well received. His policies regarding it being pro police and pro military work very well here North Carolina. We, my has been higher voting in person. I believe it is my Civic Responsibility to go to the pole and vote. We are pro america. I believe we are in North Carolina withex a group that has experienced a very erratic shutdown from governor cooper. There are quite a few people who want to change and they are very pro trump. We see signs and flags and in conversations with them. I have received however, i will tell you, three applications to vote. None of which i haveic requeste. So i do think there is still work to be done regarding cleaning up voter rolls. I dont know what it will take for North Carolina to get there. But waiting until the first two months before an election when you have got for years seems to be a little bit is to be done on that end. In terms of peoples excitement about voting for this president , all i am saying is pro trump. We have. Our flags out, we are talking to each other, we need to converse about we are pro america. Thank you for letting me speak. Like this color i had received numerous forms in the mail to get me to it fill out a request for an absentee ballot. What is going on there as there is a lot of groups in the state and country are encouragings people to vote by mail this year. Quite a few people realize that Voter Registration is public. A lot of these outside groups not affiliate with the state or campaign or mailing people applications they can fill out and return. Think ive received five of the them. The caller also talked about a couple of other issues. The governor coopers response to the pandemic is something of an issue here in the state. Overall, they enjoy the approach i take but theres a group of people very upset about that. Like other states have had a lot of businesses close, tourism has struggled because of this. About two thirds of our k12 students including my own are being educated remotely. It is still a very disruptive time of life for people. Its very much on voters mind. Christen henson, West Virginia supporting former Vice President. High chris. Caller good morning. I am a former living in West Virginia. My understanding is that the Republican Party successfully engineered a massive gerrymandering of the Congressional Districts in 2010. And furthermore, i believe there is considerable efforts at shrinking the electric with voter suppression. And i imagine professor roberts about how theyve been at thwarting the will of the popular vote . Guest yes. The North Carolina redistricting plan both for the state legislature and the Congressional District or put in placeut in 2010 were very efficient part of gerrymandering from the Republican Party. The averagehe congressional election, the decade of vote from republicans and most congresses that is translated to threeme democratic numbers theres a courtroom struck edwn that districting plan for the democrats are expected to pickup three congressional seats this year, just as a result of the redistricting and the delegation will closely match the breakdown of the electric. This also been intensive battlegroundth over the rules of voting. The voter id laws that comprehensive voter reform bill that was struck down by federal courts because the court decided it really had to American Voters theres an intensive battleground for gerrymandering and the right to vote. Host North Carolina, william is watching there. Good morning to you. Caller hello. Host hello go ahead you are the air with the professor. Caller professor i am so fed up with all of the lies. I saw that man can do is lie, lie, lie, lie. He doesnt open his mouth. Telling a lie. And we need Something Else in the white house. Spent professor roberts the president s character. Guest thats certainly an issue for a lot of voters. One of the advantages and disadvantages President Trump faces with the election battle is hes a different politician print doesnt feel constrained by the norms many politicians have felt constrained by over the years. Some of his supporters find it refreshing but others like the call here find it revolting quite frankly. Think that illustrates the dynamics of this race. You have a lot of people are going to vote for the president no matter what. Have a lot of people who will not vote no matter what. I think that is some of what the data has been and how the candidates are really trying to turn their base around as much as theyre trying to persuade to vote with them. Pontiac michigan, you are undecided perspective yes i am. I am wondering about the loopholes that the president is trying to go with the to hang onto power. What loopholes are there in that he can hang onto power without us of voting our conscience and stuff . Speech am not sure exactly what the caller is referring to. Itr did upset a lot of people in 2016, the way the Electoral College is designed in a candidate can leave the popular vote as President Trump did, so when a electoral majority vote. Their concerns i could happen again this year but theres also been some speculation that satan having a disputed election outcome prediction of state legislature thats controlled by the republicans, pointer electors and set aside the popular vote results. Thats just all speculation. E thats certainly something to keep an eye on as we see those in the days after the election. Sue went more to come amount. We thank you for your time. Spent thank you my pleasure. Coming up so i am cspan2, the legal battle for President Trumps tax returns and other financial records continues with an oral argument in the case trump versus advance. The House Speaker ways and means subcommittee exams a Coronavirus Impact on the restaurant industry. After that House Speaker speaker nancy pelosi, hosting a Virtual Meeting on Climate Change with her legislative counterparts in the g7 nations. Oco you are watching cspan2, your unfiltered view of government. 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