[inaudible background conversations] tonight i want to welcome all the people abeveryone who may be watching on my extreme and the people watching on cspan booktv. Despite covid regulations in boston, since we are now in lockdown all the time. We are getting together for this wonderful event. Myrna talk about a very important book in our lives more than 50 of it deals with immigration both legal and illegal. I would like everyone to welcome mr. Harlan hill and mr. Ryan girdusky. [applause] [applause] apparently am going to be doing marco rubio imitation all night. Its very hot here in boston. Lets get right to it. Harlan is a political consultant, advisor for the trump reelection campaign, youve seen him on cnn, msnbc, foxbusiness and fox news. Ryan is also a political consultant, war writer for the Washington Examiner, the american conservative a [inaudible] this is their first book and for a first book you get another round of applause. [applause] were getting it just right to the book. In prep for this interview i spoke with steve bannon this afternoon, the group of populism. He said this is a great and essential primer on how we got here with a global view on the populace athat deep dives and if you can believe it, steve bannon also said a [inaudible] [laughter] [inaudible] a young man from South Carolina doing, writing about global populism, maga, yellow best. I will start. I started my career in politics as democrat and i made the transition to the republican party, i found that i fundamentally misunderstood what the Democratic Party stood for. I thought it was a working people party. I thought it was a party for Small Business owners. I thought it was a party that would fight to improve the wages and the positions of workers across the country. What we saw is the 2016 the complete revolt against the corporate interests that drive down wages for the globalization for ilLegal Immigration. And i retired abi would see these guarded towns. I would think. This doesnt make sense. Something is fundamentally wrong. To listen in washington. Their job and communities were shattered by opioids and immigration. Basically shut up and learn how to cope. I reject that and thats how i came to be a trump republican and thats how we met. I am from a very middleclass abbluecollar community in queens. Where the Republican Community in queens. I didnt have a lot of positions starting in politics. I wasnt political. Although i did tell my parents when i was eight years old i voted for ross perot. [laughter] when i was in high school i was a big protester of the iraq war. It never made sense to me. I also saw the radical transformation of communities because of Mass Immigration. I was like this doesnt make sense either. That was my only abi started working on campaigns when i was 18 years old. When i was 27 i was like, a lot of people who write about this had never been on the campaign trail. They dont know what they are a alet me start writing, i started writing for the Washington Examiner. Bill kristol was my coworker. A very hostile work situation. [laughter] i was the only person in conservative institution who said trump was good to be the nominee that was going to win and i held to my guns and i remember it was supposed to be for this horrible radio show, i remember this one radio show in idaho, like why do you hate this country so much supporting trump . I was like seriously . This is the question . I wrote an article a year ago in april 2019 about the rise of National Populism. I hear a lot about, i study other countries and other movements and i notice what was happening around the world. I was like this is not just here. Everything they are being told is kind of a lie that this is just frozen into one thing. So, i wrote an article and then i said this could be a book. Me and harlan and i said would you do this project with me . He said yes. Now we have a book. Mobility, education, corruption, future prominently in the early chapters of the book, you want to touch on . The book is nine chapters, its pretty readable. I dont have a college education. Harlan does not abwe made this as simple as possible for People Like Us to read. [laughter] [inaudible] the main point abtheres National Populism occurring on all Six Continents that there is human beings on. We break into a conversation of one was the first Real National populist leader elected to the national government. It was 1998 with victor organ. That was almost 20 years before donald trump. The reaction to trump and brexit was how did this happen . They couldnt understand what was going on that they werent paying attention to the signs, the things that were moving. A big part of our philosophy is that politics does not exist in that bubble. For instance, the 2001 World Trade Center bombing that happened in new york city in washington, affected the election of denmark, their first thing they did was they put crumb theabeverything we se our politics is typical around the world. One of the biggest governments to actually work on cracking down on immigration is angola. Both african countries and angola has the department of homeland security, yet highly more effective at controlling immigration. Why . Its not a matter of efficiency, its a matter of political power. Its do you want to do this . Not can you do this . So we saw the corruption and a list of things that all national populist movements around the entire globe overlap. Maybe not all nine or 10 but a majority of those beliefs kind of overlap globally. I think one of the biggest takeaways from this book that we talked about so far is the culture and the cultural war we lost. I almost wish abwritten this book in released three months from now because the shockwaves that it happened over the last few months, whether the coronavirus or the rise weve seen sweet every major metropolitan area in the country, run by democrats. [inaudible] i wish we could have talked about this because what i think democrats are trying to do is trying to leverage the advantage they have in education, leverage the advantage they have in the cultural war, control hollywood and the news media. And they think that this is going to be there trump movement. The rise of what we are seeing happening in the [indiscernable] looking at hundreds of millions , drill down and look at the media and ask yourself, does the media really represent, does hollywood really represent . Does the newsrooms really represent the makeup of the American People . You referenced earlier, none of us have college degrees. But 92 percent of reporters around the country have a college degree. Most americans dont. The media, when they said the media doesnt represent america, the media despite the breakdowns of the book, the media is far too right, the media is far too liberal. They live in too many different democratic cities. They have a singular narrative. There is no breaking that narrative. 72 percent of the a [indiscernable] that means these people dont even know at trump voter. They dont. [indiscernable] [inaudible] [laughter]. [multiple speakers] the chainsaw mixed with an ak47, the worlds that these people are living in. They dont know. Go to washington and go to a conservative medium and try to find a churchgoing person who owns a gun and a truck. Its impossible. [inaudible]. [laughter] [multiple speakers] you bring up the media, theres an awful lot of interplay between government and the media. When we saw nbc work this week, we try to do platform a major conservative libertarian website, the federalist, we saw john bolton, who left the Top Administration who launched his book and launched all kinds of attacks against the president , intermixed between the elites and the press. They moved back and forth very easily between the press and government. Heres the thing with the media, i worked in media. Most media people in general are very good people. Your local beat reporter for the local newspaper is making 50,000 a year trying to get by, doing it because he loves the news. When you go to major outlets, its not a lot of money for most reporters. Rachel maddow is a brand, Anderson Cooper is a brand. You know what you are getting from them. There is no incentive to do news because what they are selling you, they are selling you their gimmick. Its like nike or oreo cookies, its the same thing every time, you know what you are going to get. It is worth it to becoming brand, if you are a brand you can get a book deal, you can get a television show, you can get a television contract, you can sit there and give speeches for a lot of money. [laughter] [multiple speakers] if you have abjennifer jacob from bloomberg is a fabulous reporter. Shes not biased at all. I enjoy reading her, i dont know her politics. There are fewer than anyone else. The problem with social media makes it all the more visible how openly political they are. We break this down in the book a couple times. You used to get punished for saying things, now you get career advances. Ben jacobs tweeted how he wants to punch Young Conservatives in the face. Cpac didnt get far enough to get moved to another paper and then he tweeted rick before the election, a quote from donald trump that were to bring justice the way it used to be. People instantly thought he was talking about the clan or lynching. But the full quote that trump said was at the ballot box he left out at the ballot box, why . Its easier to spread the lie than the truth, its not as sexy. Theres nothing wrong with screwing up and saying a tweet and apologizing. They dont even do that. You saw the covington schoolboys, that was as big of a hoax as the russia abthey tried to 16yearold private citizens lives over the fact that they had a picture in 1 32 video and they went wild. What happened with google the tomorrow abdemonizing ab they are fringe, mainstream conservatives, they have demonized, they got thrown off facebook and twitter. And it happened to breitbart, thats been going on for years. They made it very hard for breitbart to make money on their traffic. Now we are seeing a totally monetization of googles perspective of the federalist zero hedge. Whats next . The daily caller is going to be the Washington Examiner, its good to be fox news. They started it on the fringes but they are working their way to the middle. And now you cant even wear a tshirt for a conservative news channel without having your career threatened without having people threaten the lives of your family. Its completely unhinged. Theyre going to go after our pocketbooks, whether that means if you are a supporter of conservative media by trying to change you into the shadows, shame you for supporting that network, or if youre the network itself they make it possible for you to earn a living on the traffic that you have. Thats a problem for all of us. On top of that, the social Media Networks start making it impossible for us to get our message out. When we were going to promote the book we were running facebook ads for people to buy the book. We got totally rejected with zero explanation. Zero. I think thats because the National Populism and other keywords, they said, no. I think is important statistics in the book that we bring out, i mentioned it yesterday on tucker carlson, if anyone saw that, we are having a conversation right now but antiracist movement, what words are triggers, whats the truth going on in our country. We break this down to specifics in the book is not around 2007 certain words like whiteness, like racist, like white privilege, like social justice, all were terminology exploded and the average content in most major news outlets. We were being inundated with conversations that we were really having. They werent reflected in the truth that was going on in our country. I think that is really Something Else, whats very stunning as the people who took over the University System and the Education System with the terminology, in college i heard trigger the first time i was like thats not a real thing to me you are joking. I was like this is never going to come and be widespread. They moved into the media and slowly took over the entire institution. Thats really what we are seeing now coming through. We certainly hold that in such Great College town of boston. [laughter] this is wouks wokesville. Italy to besiege, shift after shift of refugees, landing on the beaches, calling in the coast guard and we have over 7000 indians a year that are on our southern border trying to cross mexico. They remind abnevermind mexican and Central American illegal immigrants. IlLegal Immigration makes up well over half of this book. a immigration. Yes. Lets talk about the sanctuary city, our neighborhoods that have been plagued by fentanyl, children have been caught up in addiction and overdoses and crime, it really i think is a lot of people around here certainly no the pain of ilLegal Immigration because of the drug crisis. We are one of the worst states in the country. Can we talk about how immigration and crime have gone together . The book breaks down immigration in four sections, one is ilLegal Immigration and then the other three are types of ilLegal Immigration. Talking about crime, the economy, and culture. Those are the three ways we break down Legal Immigration. When it comes to the situation in europe, we all live in a bubble, when the United States and several russian allies as a aone thing always affected the other. The Swiss Peoples Party in switzerland, benin government since 1999, became the lead party in switzerland because we started abkosovo refugees because the backlash. In the United States you have a situation when it comes to crime, the problem with United States and crime when it comes to immigration you have very very little abif someone is a criminal is a child of illegal immigrant. In the United States would just break down who is a citizen who is not a citizen. Its very hard to understand. Noncitizens are underrepresented in certain crimes like they are in murder but they are overrepresented in many many many crimes like identity theft, like drug crimes will stop just legalize drugs. Everyone get off opioids. Be a libertarian, get drugged out. [laughter] i think the problem is that when it comes to ilLegal Immigration is that 1986 ab Ronald Reagan and then was supposed to stop. We were supposed to have an answer. We had two institutions fought against that. One was big government, which sat there and said this works in our favor, these peoples children will become democrats. It will be good and we will have synthetic stories of the illegal alien crying. The republicans this is good for big agriculture and big agriculture fed this monster. In 1986 or 97, barbara jordan, democratic congresswoman, black woman from texas, created a commission how to create prosperity in the black Community Ends said reduce ilLegal Immigration. Bill clinton said okay. Ill do it and the person who stopped it. And Newt Gingrich and paul ryans mentor. Had they done that, trump probably wouldve never been president. We wouldve reduced immigration over 200,000 years over 1. 2 million a year and the mass effect of immigration on our culture landscape and crime and Everything Else would diminish. IlLegal Immigration and crime is especially bad in communities like in los angeles for example where they are caught in between gangs. The daily times covers it very well. But the fact that it doesnt get any National News im sure you know jamil sharp. There so many stories like that that go completely unwashed. Nobody hears of them. Was watching jamil shaw, a Young African american man who was up and coming football start, great academic, and he was murdered in the neighborhood where he grew up in. While his mother was serving our country in iraq. He was murdered by an illegal alien who got out of jail that day. Multiple arrests for gun charges. His dad had to call his mom to tell her her son was murdered. Did al sharpton come to the rescue . Did black lives matter come to the rescue . No one came, there was absolute silence by every other community. Actually it was just two years ago i heard about this when i was at the Washington Examiner that there was an illegal alien gang throwing molotov cocktails in the home of black communities. Picking out which bedrooms black children slept in. Did not even abthe only times it was silent across the media. Had it been any other situation it wouldve Gone National attention but because they fight their ideology so much that, we point is out of the book because the media is so liberal and white specifically, white liberalism, there is Research Done about this, the only group in this country to have a negative bias toward their own kind. Black americans, hispanic americans, white americans, looking at fellow racial groups and they have warm feelings. Its completely natural. What liberals look at other white people have a feeling toward bias. The only group in this country that do that. Because the media has done it they cant sit there and break down those narratives. We have Unemployment Rate hovering between 13 percent to 16 percent. The Trump Administration is doing everything can to keep the economy chugging along. We have 916,000 work visas still being issued in the city of boston we have 58,000 opt students, students who have special visas to come to school in boston and they get a tax break if you hire them afterwards. We spent all this time putting money into a plan so your son can go to abtheres tax incentives for our businesses to hire immigrants over your son or daughter. Can you talk about, i know you dont want to get in on the a i want to ask this question. I pose this from the perspective of foreign immigrants. I used to do a lot of work with unions. One of my first fragments from the party, i would look at the message being put out, i asked myself why would this Teachers Union care about ilLegal Immigration . Why did the Teachers Union care about Legal Immigration . Why did Teachers Union care about lgbt, the list goes on and on. I would think the union working for awould be more interested in the safety and wellbeing of their workforce. There is this wild lettuce sensation on the left that every Major Institution in washington that liens left had to subscribe to the media communion, think tanks, or members of congress. Its that we need to engage in the whole transformation of demographics of the United States of america. I think they realized they couldnt win necessarily along ideological lines purely. They set out to transform the financial and demographic makeup of the country. I think thats what this largely is. In terms of Legal Immigration, we go to this a lot in the book, it comes down to one financial interest. Every Big Corporation in this country. Whether in airconditioning manufacturing in indiana, or the tech company in silicon valley, if they can import cheaper labor or even high skilled jobs, there to do everything and invest as much power and money as the return on investment justifies then for that cheap labor. Want to touch on that . Immigration is really important. I think we will talk about the three things, one is which ab the reason we have Mass Immigration is because of the corporations abi spoke to the Trump Administration many times to people in the administration about this and the question always comes down to, there is a thinking in washington. There are a few good congressmen, a few good people in the Trump Administration but its a machine. I think a we walked it. We havent been able to hold up to the administration in this. [multiple speakers] we didnt get 280 miles of border wall construction built, we didnt get abwe did get the third states of our country agreements, which reduce massive ilLegal Immigration. All these things are fantastic for ilLegal Immigration. Anterior deportation did go up a little bit. The one thing we didnt get is Legal Immigration because of the financial interest to control a lot of washington. They are is a definition called post democracy do you go when you vote and the people inside the machines do whatever they want regardless. I think we are not there yet. I think trump is the close weve ever gotten, i know he believes the monthly that we need to crack down on immigration. We are supposed to get an executive order this week. I know that all the usual suspects are spiting against it tooth and nail, leaking to the media, leaking to the chamber of commerce. Doing Everything Possible to stop him. And win him over. Its the same line. What they do is basically higher all the same people from the same institutions. Its a greek chorus. They just hear the echo over and over again. We will see. The biggest thing is culture when it comes to immigration. Thats what affected the most. There was, i cant remember his name, the city in california, im totally ruining my reference. There was this big city in california where all major hiphop artists came out of, compton. [laughter] its been a long week. You know that compton is almost 80 mexican now . Matt king waters will be the last black person to represent compton. Its not black anymore. That culture is gone forever. When white yuppies move into a neighborhood, gentrification makes 500 different headlines. When massive immigration alters the character of the cities and neighborhoods that have a long traditional culture as american cultures whether they be black or white, which is the true traditional american cultures and obviously within that culture abjust talking in the most specifics. We never have that conversation. We dont ever abwe are always afraid of being called racist. Thats what they label you as to shut you up. You cant have a conversation. In the book we talk about culture and we break down ab theres a ton of different studies about this. When you invoke mass diversity among people that do not want it and do not accept it, what happens is social trust goes down. Not only among those abnot only do you not trust people who are different than you can you trust people who have the same issues and your willingness to invest in an institution goes down. Whos the least trusting group of people in america . Generation z, the most diverse. We sit there and we celebrate diversity, it can be great, not all immigration is bad, not all immigrants are bad, certainly control over long periods of time is great. It makes the fabric of our country. But in 1965 we passed the immigration act abdue to ted kennedy. It was a high speed rail. The constant narrative we have in the country from 1924 to 1965 we put a hold on most immigration practices. We assimilated. We went to a world war together, the korean war, mass media, international highways system, we grew more tolerant of one another, things happen to make us more of one country. Its not easy and it doesnt happen by accident. Its really easy to break down, sweden and finland were the same country for 800 years and they couldnt make it work. They are practically the same people. Creating a tower of babylon saying, it will all work because we have america as a nation of ideas, is no effect bull crap. We took a long time to get here to make ourselves a commonality to be an American People. It doesnt happen by accident. The book breaks down the transformation on a cultural level and why that caused backlash. And bigger backlash abthe percentage of americans feel like they are a stranger in their own country. Its something you see in country after country after country after country whether brazil or chile, italy, it happens all over the place. It is so fragile and so easy to destroy. If you get something thats really important. I think this book is important because a they are all footnoted. We are nerds as much as college dropouts. We have lots of facts. If you feel this way but you cant describe it, dont really know how to make the argument, this book i think puts you in the right direction. Thank you very much. Going to ask shelby to collect questions. While shes collecting the questions, we are going to ask maureen i know she was there. If you will abeverybody else could hand questions forward to me, id appreciate it. [inaudible question] it still is a very important issue to many americans. At that time he had a 10 point immigration plan. A big part of that plan was cutting off the abto come to our country. To cut off the benefits. Implementing tariffs and ending birthright citizenship. My question is, do you think President Trump has been influenced by those around him and softening on these issues . What is your opinion on that . First of all, im so sorry about your loss. Thats horrible. The thing that i think, when it comes to President Trump, i will be frank because i dont have friends in washington so i dont care, the thing about President Trump is when it came to hiring practices early on, Stephen Miller obviously Everybody Knows who he is, really aggressively pushed out a lot of immigration laws because in my estimation i believe hes a abhe pushed out a lot of people who could have been an ally to him and he stands as one of the only people in the room. He wanted to make himself indispensable to the president. At the same time you have a lot of people are different voices. Lets take ending the benefits toward abwhich i am a supporter of but then you have somebody who says if you do that, you make new york city a more likely terrorist target i understand where they are coming from but my point is, theres not a uniform voice by the administration and there could have been had things gone differently early on. It wasnt just Stephen Miller, i attack him a lot. It was one of many people in the administration who purposely pushed out immigration. Our Border Crossing numbers are down i think they 18,000 board apprehensions are down 18,000 a month, where well before the a ai know that there are other things you could do he hasnt done. I know the executive order was written, i know people who wrote it. I dont know why it was never signed. I think in the right settings President Trump really does believe that americans are being shafted and americans got the wrong side of the sale on many many issues. I just think that when youre constantly being told, if you do something, youre going to crash the economy or you are going to lose reelection, over and over tickets hesitate. I do know for a fact that they are working on this executive order and it may be very very good and hopefully it is. I know hes being pressured to do the right things now and hopefully for the promises he made to people like i saw President Trump when he ran. Back in the day hes always going to be a billionaire, hes always gonna be a rich guy. The Campaign Promises he made, its not like the promises he made were really for people like you and People Like Us and people who really needed to sit there and believe in something because we had been so badly lost for the presidencies of bush, clinton, bush, obama. Theres been constant cycles of that. Thats my estimation of what goes on in the white house. I know there are more good people around him now than there were a year ago. If he wins reelection, i believe we will see a big transformation within the deep state and within the administration to actually bring good people there because i know people working on bringing people there and i know people getting ready to go inside the white house administration. If he wins a second term and feeling confident things will continue to go in a better direction. I found that this is always been true with President Trump. Its been exacerbated by coronavirus. I think when he is at his best, outside washington when he is part of it is not being around what you call the greek chorus. The greek course of the white house. Part of it is being outside that bubble. I think part of it is also reconnecting him to his roots because i think if he really does thrive on that, i think if that motivates him it shows him that there is this world beyond the poll numbers. Im really excited that hes breaking out of that. There will be one major change when he was setting the agenda whether speaking to abor controversial muzzle ban. Whatever it was, was undoubtable that President Trump was leading the National Narrative he created it and he has completely lost that. I predict now that hes getting back out there it will change. I hope that answers your question. Alex tribec, try to get everybodys questions. What you say when someone calls you a racist . Its a great question. I cant prove anything to you. I dont care, if thats the charge im getting your really not to listen to me to begin with. I dont believe the antiracist movement. Im just not a racist. Black americans, white americans abif it was a race issue, then the voters of england wouldnt be getting angry at mass emigration in poland. The angola wouldnt be fighting against congolese. Its not a racial issue, it is a cultural issue. So fine we are not going to have a reasonable conversation. Im not in it to win friends. I take a similar path, ive never been someone to block or mute friends on social media. Its really disheartening actually that we totally advocated to principles of classical liberalism. We dont engage in debate conversation like this, we shout down, cancel, ruin the lives and careers a [multiple speakers] [inaudible] when i have an email saying the d word i know its either some running mates or my brother. Im not going to engage. Like whatever. [ it was almost german out of office because he took extraordinary measures to combat covid19. Just call it coronavirus, youll be fine. [laughter] the question is, how does populism succeed with a gang of nine a this is great especially with the Supreme Court being so horrible this week. Theres a guy named adrian manual, im totally slashing his last name. He has an idea of having common good constitutionalism. The new term is probably on botching the understanding of it. The just is abhes not a dumb person at all. His basic understanding is we should do something physically because its an original interpretation of the constitution, we should be pushing for the common good of everybody. So dont worry about being an originalist, be worried about being a common good constitutionalist and i think that really may be a trend for the future. Really society just lost a lot of cases this week which i think are really important. I was a can have faith in them anymore. What happens up there just like john robert . John roberts makes ted kennedy look like scalia. This reminds me of something that steve bannon describes trumps victory as the most highly leveraged hostile takeover of any organization in the history of humanity. What i was hoping would come out of this movement what would come out of the early days of the Trump Administration wasnt just a great presidency but i hoped to see a thriving culture of think tanks, media organizations. It wasnt enough to just take over the establishment the carcass of the dying Old Republican Party because unfortunately a lot of people that they were part of the problem before trump took over, were still there after he took over. You look at some of these other institutions lindsay graham. This is important because they drive a lot of discussions and for washington moving forward. I think the most important thing people can learn from the Trump Presidency is personnel is policy. Very important to understand that, the person the undersecretary of some other department really has a lot more power than you would think he does. Its why some departments in the administration are very good. Peter navarro. We have dhs which is hostile President Trump from beginning to end. Thats why we need to create national policy, think tanks and institutions to combat the heritage foundations of the world. [multiple speakers] why dont you tell people your twitter handles so they can follow you. And what websites and blogs do you recommend for somebody that wants to know more about population and nationalism. My twitter handle is ryan girdusky. [multiple speakers] littleknown fact, jd vances quote on the book miss a misspells my name and i was in charge of proofreading. [laughter] i have a national populace newsletter its free, i do every sunday. Attack ryanits auntran7a. Com. I write breitbart all the time. I spent time reading a lot. My twitter handle is harlan hill. I can spell my name [laughter] i bought that handle for 100 when twitter first came out. I was like yeah a probably soso way. I will never use it and it turned out to be so convenient for my own personal branding. I read a lot of breitbart i love brians newsletter i think that i was talking about this previously these news organizations im hoping the people in the room people watching on television will invest the time to write themselves. Thats the whole section in media in the media how basically the number one way to become a journalist in washington is to have everything predict to be wrong. [laughter] our social media is doing very well right now. You just failed at the lightning round. We are going to wind this up in the prologue of the book ab you think your parents and ab why did you think . First of all abhe would never let me live it down. He was in charge of the war room in the brexit hes come to the United States and hes a commentator on a blog on excuse me, a podcast called war room. Work. Yes. It took me a while. Its important, you dont know how many books you will write in your lifetime. As im sure many of you my parents sacrificed immensely to put me through school and all the practices and sports and debate. It got me to this point. Not quite on their level but. You think your parents and your sixth grade history teacher. I hope shes alive. I havent spoken to her in a long time. I hated school. When i was in third grade i said to my parents and ready to drop out. [laughter]. I know everything and didnt need to know at that point, im good. Mrs. Endo was one teacher in my life that got me interested in the subject of history. Hated every subject in school i was a kid who was finding ways to get out of school every chance i had she may be like history. I wouldnt care about politics and i didnt have her as a teacher. Thank you, wherever you are. We have a wonderful night with brian and harlan. I want to thank everyone watching on cspan booktv. Everyone tuning in on live stream and what it would take out with the next round of applause. [applause] here are some of the current bestselling nonfiction books according to politics and prose bookstore in washington dc. Topping the list is President Trumps niece mary trump and her critical look at the president and the trump family in her book too much and never enough. And appelbaum looks at the rise of authoritarianism and nationalism around the world followed by abram candys argument that america must choose to be antiracist and work toward building a more Equitable Society in his book how to be antiracist. Friends jordan blazek and ab travel the country to find common dialogue in union wrapping up our look at some of the bestselling nonfiction books according to washington dc politics and prose bookstore is me and White Supremacy by good ancestor podcast host layla saad who addresses White Supremacy and racial injustice. Most of these authors have appeared on booktv and you can watch them online at booktv. Org. Journalist Janice Kaplan highlighted some women geniuses who gone unrecognized by society in this portion of the program she discusses lees minor who discovered Nuclear Fission. This amazing woman in the 1930s who discovered Nuclear Fusion she was the first person to understand that when you split an atom the nucleus of an atom of uranium there was a big explosion of energy. That of course led to nuclear energy, a lead, unfortunately, to Nuclear Weapons which she was not willing to have any part of. It was also something that turned physics on its head. It was really important. And it won the nobel prize. I say it won the nobel prize because lees meisner did not win the nobel prize. He went to her lab partner a man named otto hahn a chemist. From what i read he was a very nice man and a very good chemist and maybe even deserved the nobel prize for Something Else but he sure didnt deserve it for Nuclear Fission because he didnt really understand Nuclear Fission. The men on the Nobel Committee couldnt wrap their heads around the idea that it could have been a woman responsible for this enormous breakthrough. They fell back into what they are talking about before it must be the woman behind the man. Many years later the proceedings of the Nobel Committee were released a certain number of years the nobel proceedings are released. A group of physicists look at that and called it the most egregious and indefensible oversight ever. Believe me for egregious and indefensible oversight theres a lot of competition. [laughter] kelly was referring to is that many physicists since have tried to make it up to lees minor and there is now an asteroid named for her theres statues of her all over berlin where she did her work and my favorite the periodic table which i mentioned just before there is no element on the periodic table named mike miriam. To watch the rest of Janice Kaplans talk visit our website booktv. Org. Type in her name or the title of her book the genius of women in the search box at the top of the page. Heres a look at some Publishing Industry news. Former president george w. Bush will publish a collection of his paintings of american immigrants, the book out of many won will be released next march and include 43 portraits with accompanying biographies. This will be president bushs second book of paintings, his first, which was of American Veterans came out in 2017. Rick gates former aide on the truck 2016 president ial campaign who was a witness in the Mueller Investigation and was imprisoned for 45 days for lying to federal investigators about his role in a criminal financial enterprise plans to release his memoir titled wicked game on october 13. Mr. Gates is said the book is not salacious and takes a middleoftheroad approach. In other news, novelist shirley and growl died last week at the age of 91. Her books focused on race and class issues and included the novel the keepers of the house which won the Pulitzer Prize in 1965. Mpd bookscan reports that print book sales are up 15 percent for the week ending august 1. Adult nonfiction sales continued their recent uptick with the gain of 90 and were led by mary trumps book which is critical of the president titled too much and never enough the American Library association has announced their Midwinter Meeting scheduled to take place in indianapolis in january now being held online. This policy associations decision to go virtual with their annual conference this past june. Sixtyfirst up from 1992, heres a portion of the late author and journalist richard van kramers discussion of his best