Are profiteering on the back of migrants. Can you talk about that is one of the opening points in your book . The work you are doing is so important to in my in the American Public about the vice grip the cartels have at the border. So one of the things that is really important to eliminate in chapter one is the Caravan Cartel that they could not do it alone not just to have explicit conspiratorial is out there to make billions of dollars of profit to endanger lives and wreaking violence and havoc but the fact that benevolent charities and religious organizations that may think they are doing good deeds and of course we know about the kinds of roads that good intentions pay but those religious organizations on both sides of the border are enabling the drug cartels to make as much cash as they do. We have seen the ill legal alien caravans come into your state and beyond. And the support money that subsidize the shelter networ network, especially churchgoers is from their own pockets and collection plates they think of helping their neighbors and Homeless People in their communities. But it goes straight to the network and i name many of the shelters all the way into the interior of the United States that are subsidized by the Catholic Church the jesuits and others and in concert with nongovernmental organizations like Doctors Without Borders to create those magnets and pull factors that they exploit. You are making a great point. So what i would like to explore further is the extent to which the cycle of smuggling and cartels are at the central operational control. And how it works a lot of people dont understand the extent to which people are driven off and cartels for profit with illicit organizations is a 2 million for the profit they were making not narcotics but people and the way they do it is exploiting the laws the asylum lies but i know that you know a lot about and they come across the border and then people are brought across by Border Patrol to go straight to the ngo and all of this is completing the cycle of smuggling can you talk about that exploitation . It hits the nail on the head because your average news consumer even if wellinformed has the impression they tried to evade and you know thats not true they are marching right up to the station because they have been coached not just along the route that they hear it on the radio in their home country so word spreads fast and quickly and we know now its not just Central America all these african migrants as well has been coached and what is alarming congressman, people around the world are far more informed about Immigration Law and then next and bolts on the nuts and bolts of how it works that what the American People are about the rules and the laws that are to protect us. See you have illegal alien parents that are already here. May be protected status 25 years ago with an earthquake in el salvador. Temporary is never temporary in a country with open borders and then they have the children back home they pay a coyote to bring across the negative the final passage everybody makes money. That they have these ngos who get their own cut of the profit so what is most offensive to people understand the way this works this is a global human smuggling racket to operate under the umbrella of compassion while they accuse the rest of us to be racist and heartless it always comes up about we are in a wrap themselves in the mantle of the flag that isnt in the constitution of the United States and if you look even and the statue of liberty doesnt calling it resettling in the entire world. You raise a lot of important points so i want to close the loop on the consequences. He mentioned that humanitarian reality and endangerment and vargas was murdered last summer thankfully the person that perpetrated that crime was just prosecuted and found guilty but this is a reality in america but also the migrants who come here were abused those with the illicit organizations when you said the important part about compassion this is that open borders is good for migrants it is empowering these organizations but if you talk about these in your book into your point on the on a different chapter. I agree that a massive systemic exploitation of innocent people who want better lives for themselves and their children, it breaks my heart. The number of ponds in the cruel and inhumane game of open borders is incalculable. It doesnt just stop at the border i lead in the dc swamp area and in Montgomery County area. But you could already see the signs of ms 13 taking over the Public Schools and local malls and it has gotten worse it is incredibly important to point out its not just american citizens that are victims but largely other members of the migrant communities that are victimized and raped and murdered. So what has caught my eye in the book i will Say Something that will shock you im a bald white guy. [laughter] and in chapter four of your book called hate machine the southern poverty law center. He is a lifetime Law Enforcement officer defending of orders and enforcing our laws, they call him a bigot. You see this all the time, can you speak to the on your perspective on what youve gone through in your life and why you take particular offense to that. Yes i want to go back to my very first appearance on cspan in 2002 when i came out with my very first book invasion on the first Year Anniversary of the september 11 terrorist attack, we are talking to each other on the 18th anniversary of those attacks. It was because of the love of the country that my immigrant naturalized American Parents inculcated in me that field me too write that book and now it is 17 years later coming back to the topic and really flushing out the global financing in this immigration chaos. The idea that you have an entire infrastructure that is hellbent on demonizing and smearing every Immigration Enforcement advocate, every group out there that does the research and tells the truth about the negative impacts on our culture, on our schools, on a Public Health system and welfare, but a low national security. It is really daunting because you realize these are not random people tossing out these smears. It is very well focused rated and very wellfunded. In a large part it is coming from groups that enjoy taxexempt nonprofit status. The chapter that i wrote on the Sovereign Poverty Law Center startup the way that you read because i encountered this mere machine very early on, now everybody is aware of it with a large number of d platform in that we are seeing a prominent conservatives, independents, Trump Supporters and other organizations that have found success on the internet. But very early on it was immigration that motivated groups like the national council, the Antidefamation League and a number of subgroups under the umbrella of the open Society Foundation to come up with their own guidebook. A book of code words that youre not allowed to use and for me in 2006 or 2007, theres a video that attacked me for using the academic concepts every conquistador, the idea that demographically that many of the open border sources were able to overwhelm cities that they would amass electoral power. All you have to do is look at the numbers and see that is happening. But to talk about it without being labeled a conspiracy theorist is nearly impossible these days and it helps that of tlc which itself is a highly discredited organization that even mainstream liberals in magazines like feeling sick have completely exposed and now you have internal whistleblowers who have talked about harassment and Racial Discrimination within the organization. The poverty should no longer be quoted by any Mainstream Media organization and yet cnn and the Washington Post continue to confer upon it absolute moral authority to be able to judge you as a white supremacist even if they have a brown skin as idea. I wonder, you spent a lot of time down on our southern border and i will obviously. Out to rio county which is 100 miles from the rio grande along the laredo sector. I spent a lot of time in laredo, you have two, you been to the border in texas, arizona, new mexico, california and i wonder if your perspective is the same as mine. It is often brought out, the charge of theres a racist tinge to believing in Border Security. I have two thoughts on that, i want to get your feeling on it. One look at the brave men and women on Border Control and has one agent who is on diaper patrol instead of Border Patrol who are so overwhelmed another agency there in a sector where they only have three guys and gals on the line trying to protect a 70mile stretch with a 2mile stretch of 70 miles in laredo where you can drive a car alongside the river. You cannot see the river through the king, you dont have a cell signal. Were asking to do the impossible. Heres my point the majority of the board of report patrol officers that i have come engage with i believe are hispanic, hispanic americans who believe that border is part of our sovereignty. That the rule of law matters. Thats why people seek to come here. That would be one point, the second point with respect to the rhesus charge. How is it somehow good for people of any color to be abused on a journey coming here and have open borders that empower the Legal Organization to be stressed earlier in the show and how is that a good thing from a race standpoint at all. On the first point i agree with you. I cut my q newspaper journalism in los angeles in the early 1990 and not only did i report on the perspective of american citizens and lawabiding and organs who were Early Morning about immigration chaos in the state and trying to take control the back then. But of course started building on many sources on the Border Patrol and ice then i moved up to the seattle time and was able to speak the perspective of Border Patrol agents in deportation and removal officers who worked on the northern part of the border. We spent so much time talking about the southern border and they neglect when they see themselves as doormats for the world and in large part harboring islamic extremist groups that can traipse across the northern border because all that is stopping them are orange rubber crohns, it is alarming and they have been under seas for a long time. Congress and the washington swamp Pay Lip Service to wanting to fund the more and increase their ranks but they have been purposely turned into as you say a diaper patrol because too many special interest dont want them to do their job effectively and another important point you make, the Border Patrol agents come from all backgrounds and in all colors, brown, white, black, yellow. Many of course in the southern border sectors are families that come from lawabiding hispanic families themselves. In colorado, my adopted home state, i visited the aurora and the ice ages there and the other people that work there from the private contractor, many of them are proud and recently naturalized americans who understand that to preserve the special gift of being able to become an american and you need a orderly system that is able to vent properly and decide do we want to lead in, who should stay here and how we should remove the people who do not belong here in the first place. I was about to move to business injure open border inc. , i cannot resist commenting on the overall situation. A group of folks stormed out the ice facility and turned upside down to abolish ice and raise the mexican flag. I went to that facility that saturday morning the day after that occurred in you and i talked about this. I went in there from 1200 people, i found tvs, i found ipads, i found three square meals a day, i found internet access, jims, hughes interesting point here point. There were people in the facility from 57 countries, 57 countries from around the world, pakistan, india, indonesia, this is not just a northern triangle in respect to mexico. Is worldwide and i remember when you tweeted the picture of you outside the rural facility and inspired me too do more in my own home state and not long after labor day just recently, we had a stand with ice rally that drew 200 people on a holiday. There is a hunger and a thirst among citizens to show their support in a way that has not been done until now and was so many of the ice facilities under siege being lied about with agents being docked and harassed which i talk about in the book in chapter five which i call the 18, abolish ice in antifa, again this is will sensitize and underwritten by forces that are hospital and what is actually going on i was stunned on congressman and you these detainees and many criminal aliens, repeat offenders and deeper patient fugitives who have free access to lexisnexis. They have telepsychiatry appointments, fullservice pharmacy and Colorado State department of corrections phil sees, those that dont have a fraction of these amenities and if you believe the hysteria driven squad its absolutely ridiculous the incitement to violence is not just speculation. In all the targets and the shots that were fired in san antonio, the cocktail throwing at the cis office in florida, and obviously attacked by the antifa in tacoma. If they had fallen on the other side, this would be declared an epidemic in congressional hearings out the walls do of how to prevent the epidemic of violence from continuing. You make a great point, i will add one more point about the ice facilities, one consequence of the massive influx, almost 900,000 people who have been apprehended since last october 1, that is not counting apprehended as you know. 600,000 have been caught and released. A huge number that we have to find a place to put them, where are they going, theyre going to ice facilities. When i was at the facility in aurora, i was told that 80 of the 1200 are people who had come across the southern border recently, what does that mean to your point, criminals, were not being able to do as much interior enforcement because we dont have a place to put them, by interior enforcement, were talking about hardened criminals, dangerous people, people engaging in battery or assault or murder or whatever it might be and having a tougher time doing our job because theyre all overwhelmed, Border Patrols overwhelmed and ice is overwhelmed. I wish we could shout it from the rooftop, every single day. The problem is when we talk about the policy consequences, these are hitting cost, it is not just a viral photo of you nella sanchez that you can photoshop onto a time cover and exploits this ability to tell the visceral stories but we can tell the stories of the hidden impact of other types of victims of crimes that we cannot know about in the displacement and places like the aurora ice facility of hardened criminal repeat aliens like you say with these people who are searched across the border and enabled by the ngos and the entire open border that i have exposed. I moved away from Montgomery County to colorado thinking it was escaping in the point for Everyday Americans across the country, there is no safe space for open border inc. You cannot be more right, the mayor of texas in san antonio did a press conference in san antonio. Because of the dangers that are now posed, 50, 60, 70 miles from the border, we have a real impact for folks. Its in colorado and Montgomery County. And people are coming here illegally from the northern triangle. In the book is titled open orders inc. , there is a correlation in a tie to the Business Community, one thing i said before, i think we shoul should its wrong to stand on the rio grande with a no trespassing sign but then wink wink, nod nod hold up a help wanted sign. We do that a lot in this country we need to have a robust conversation of whats actually going on. You talk about big business, amazon and how that plays into all of this. In fact most of the Silicon Valley overlords have their own vested interest if not nearly virtue signaling to spread money around to the racist project in texas that provides Pro Bono Legal services to illegal alien family members, i suppose the problem would not be so intractable. But for a lot of the Silicon Valley companies and i wrote about this is the focus of my last book sold out with a former American Software programmer turned lawyer for american it workers who have been harmed by the cheap labor pipelines from china and india. They are explosive goals are to bring in as many cheap laborers as they can who outsource the work. The problem of course, a lot of the Silicon Valley companies have invited the f tlc into their inner chambers to help them identify their worst political opponents into d platform them and completely throttle them from telling the truth. It is connecting the dots of the money, tim cook and jeff bezos have donated to many of these deeppocketed nonprofit organizations that are crusading for illegal alien rights, you wonder how it is that they have instant representation in court to sue over every last Trump Initiative to enforce the law. So big business and the u. S. Chamber of commerce are a huge reason for that. Let me ask your perspective on this. As you know ive been working in this universe for a while when i was on the hill and the Senate Judiciary committee, 12, 13 years ago and is senator cruz chief of staff and also what is attorney generals office, the fifth circuit of the United StatesSupreme Court trying to enforce the law. It struck me that the circle that we find ourselves in is significantly apart of the chamber of Commerce Business crowd that wanted to team down any effort of having a sensible order security solution, one like for example democrats so buster a reyes to hold the line, building a fence in el paso that would work and now his successor wants to tear that down. We know the Border Security needs and infrastructure in fencing, southern california, we had 600,000 apprehensions in the mid1990s, that is down to 30000. Why, aaa or fencing. This is not Rocket Science for most americans. We can never rational borders policy. My concern and my question for you, why do we end up in an endless cycle with some interest, not all with bigger businesses and bigger representation, the u. S. Chamber in d. C. Not wanting us to enforce the law. Money talks and i think a lot of local chamber of commerce members have noisy a what the National Chamber of commerce actually represents and i think most of the grass roots local members would be appalled to know that and it would be one thing again if we can point fingers that Julian Castro would say they are really out there. They want to decriminalize border trespassing and theyre talking about this seriously. They want to abolish ice and not replace it with anything else. But lurking behind them are larger corporate interest that allow the crazies and the radicals to give voice to the ultimate working agenda of their own organization. They will be very happy as every last willing worker in the world if they were to cross the border for a dollar an hour wages. Let me ask you this and are related point, were talking about Business Community and free trade is really important in nafta and having three good and services across the border to mexico. My observation, yoga growing middle class in mexico because of nafta getting free trade. Our goal ought to be davin encouraged Economic Growth throughout the western hemisphere, mexico, northern triangle, we want that to occur, we will to decrease the pressure. But isnt part of that the Economic Situation and making sure that we stand up for free trade, i would note that nancy pelosi is blocking the president School Getting usmc done because she does not want to give them victory. Why dont we recognize that enforcement in order to stop the magnet for people covered across as part of that previous better for mexico, guadalajara, honduras, and all of south of america to have a secure border where Everybody Knows what the rules are, theyre welcome to come to the open doors and that would result in better lives for the people in all these countries. I agree with you. The formulation is basically interior enforcement and enforcement of our own borders is empowering to the people the home countries to create more wealth in their own countries and to convince them to take more accountability for their own home. But nowhere just racist for believing that the best way for people to improve their lives and their propriety is to not have to risk their own kids lives and enriched drug cartels and all the ngos. Here again the financial imperative comes into play, i have a section in chapter one and i talked specifically about the Financial Institution from wells fargo to bank of america or bank of illegal aliens in america i suppose and now theres these apps and paypal in Silicon Valley to send remittances back home. We of President Trump who has promised and signaled and telegraphed that he will start taxing the billions of remittances that are sent back to mexico and the rest of the world and he hasnt done it yet and for most people although i know that you know this and people who have these issues, they run a Remittance Program where it recruits illegal alien customers in america by throwing festivals and having carnival games for the children of illegal aliens to sign them up so they can get across to. One thing that i think ground my attention in your book is talking about the media and i think you referred to what the media personality has done to create a climate of hate, extending to what weve been talking about, can you talk about that and how thats impacting the whole conversation right now with respect to how we solve the problem in a rational and sane way, believing and sovereignty in free trade and believing in people of faith who helping people who need help. The best way does have a system that works in the laws of enforce in words not an open borders that harms people because theyre being controlled by dangerous cartel. Can you talk about the media fomenting that wrongly . It is incredibly difficult to talk rationally about policy consequences open borders and is constantly smearing patriots as hate roo and the moral Authority Card to confer essentially and only the illegal aliens and their families at the expense that have been separated prethat never comes up. And questions that i know that the open border media are not going to ask these democrats president ial candidates. The debate is in houston. Which is a centuries base where Joslyn Johnson lost her husband both of the members of the Police Department and she has american courts to sue and hold the sanctuary and our kids accountable, where are the bleeding hearts on the left for families like this, she and her husband are both africanamerican and there are so many stories like that and yet you have a open borders media that when President Trump finally embraced many of the angel families and told their stories during the state of the union, these media types on twitter were proactively smearing them, smearing at them when they were being applauded in the chamber. They had absolute content for american citizens while they exult every last victim of the illegal immigration and in many cases life. I talk about the straightout narrative deception and we talk about sanchez in many cases like that but it does not help out right illegal aliens who have been supported by the money out there calling themselves a real american invalidity rating the very fundamental differences between people who came here legally from the philippines and people who came here illegally from the philippines. What youre talking about and respect to houston in the century problems, i mentioned earlier. Who was murdered last july and antonio got to know his wonderful mom and his family, his brother its a wonderful family. They are blown away by the state of our laws. They are really hurt, they lost a loved one and some critics will say there are crimes that are committed by american citizens and they played percentages of whos done more. That is simple and it doesnt do anything to bring jerry back. This is somebody who is here who is not supposed to be here. By the way the 900,000 people who came across the border, 600,000 at least, were not performing adequate screening and if even only 1 of the people are coming in are bad people and associated with ms 13 or gangs, thats a lot of peop people, thats 9000 people. Can you talk more about the angel family, the direct impact on american citizens and one last point a lot of people dont know the stash houses and the abuse that continue. We found a stash house, the United States government in houston with 54 people in the basement being held hostage to pay ransom back to cartels on the other side of the rio grande, that is real, happening in america. Can you talk about these things. The most important thing is the point that i always try to stress and i have over the last 25 years that it covered these issues. , the open border propaganda will go back and forth, whatever the proportion, 100 of the criminal aliens committed crimes that were 100 preventable. And if the gun control lobby saves just one life to immigration control, we would be so much better off in the revolving door has victimized so many people, we talked about it before, its not just american citizens but people of all races and backgrounds. And from the callousness and winch the media and hollywood, especially whole entire chapter on that, the intersection between hollywood and open borders inc. , the calluses in which they show in particular, families of color to borrow their own radiology is stunning to me and i contrasted the outpouring of compassion for you now listen chose by the immediate and elected democrats in california to the near code of silence that there was when there was a hero with illegal immigrant of indian descent from fiji was ruthlessly murdered on christmas day, just a couple of years ago and at the same time, nancy pelosi and Kamala Harris were tweeting about the separation of families of the border, they had 0 to say about and i would love it if there was a media moderator that would ask the democratic candidates, read your hand if you know who roan l is . You have so many great subjects that are covered in your book, im not sure we will hit the mall but you reference one and there is more. You talk in this whole open borders inc. , we talk about sanctuary cities. Another background on all of this is the base community. I find that her erotic the community is complacent in allowing this Illicit Trade of people because again it is in the false name of compassion that this is a good thing to be able to do, can you talk a little bit about the Catholic Church, you mentioned in the book the evangelical churches that are a part of the network, sometimes wittingly and sometimes unwittingly maybe for good purposes in their hearts but at the end of the day there is a part of the in list human smuggling cycle. Im catholic myself and over the years i have become more aware that the vatican and the u. S. Conference of Catholic Bishops are actively involved in our borders. But i did not know how deep and how many billions of dollars were at stake, many of them and form of government contracts for the refugee settlement racket in the case of Catholic Bishop exclusive subcontracts dealing with sheltering and paying for foster care for unaccompanied children and unaccompanied minors south of the border in Central America. What is alarming yet many unwitting catholics were giving money to Catholic Services or charities or the Catholic Campaign for human development. They dont understand that these organizations have been hijacked in some cases by social justice warriors or its in their dna that they were an alliance in chicago. So we give money everything skimming as part of the National Campaign and as i said before, people are under the impression that this is going and staying in their neighborhood when its been sent abroad and its like a vicious cycle, its like Money Laundering machine. As such as the Catholic Church, i talk about the lutheran immigrant and refugee services, this is one of the voluntary exclusive refugee settlement contracts in their responsible for bringing them here in their larger responsible for transforming the twin cities into the biggest breeding ground for jihad that are not only taking place here domestically but many of the young men that were brought here in their toddler years or the Early Elementary School years, now going back to somalia and killing their own people are targeting american soldiers. I find a highly ironic that you have these liberal though terry leaders who published a piece in the Washington Post arguing against a more radical reduction of Refugee Resettlement numbers by saying it would make us more unsafe because we need to import more arabic translators from afghanistan and iraq back here. My answer to that is an appendix in open borders inc. Which profile 60 of what i call refugee hotties including at least two muslim translators that were employed by the u. S. Army who were arrested, charged or convicted of plotting jihad against america. You mentioned a little bit ago something that, my attention in your book and it struck me about the funding on a lot of these entities out there and george soros, mentioned my name, he spends a lot of money around trying to push an agenda of fairly radical agenda and i wondered if you could talk a little bit about his and or other wealthy donor forces that are impacting this debate. It is become verboten to talk about george soros, he has many of his minions that are employed by groups like media matters or the progress, groups like this that have labeled any criticism of his suspending as antisemitism. As you mentioned on the wife of a grandson of ukrainian jews and this does not insulate me from these ridiculous charges. The chapter that i wrote about is filled with facts about how the large bulk of his 25 billiondollar net worth is now being directed toward the open Society Foundation. 18 billion, he has an earmark to achieve his agenda. Again, this is not conspiracy theory, i read his book for Global Governance and he says he considers sovereignty and obstacle. An obstacle to his goal of using the United Nations to achieve his own and for financial reasons or ideological reasons. What is daunting is for your informed readers on my side of the ideological aisle, we know hes involved in many high profile groups that always become active during the electoral season. There are hundreds and hundreds of them that proliferate with names that you do not understand what they mean. The abolished ice movement in new york city has been perpetrated by a group called make the road new york, i dont know what that means but they came out of nowhere to organize thousands of people to descend on the airport to new york city when trump tried to introduce the travel ban. Which was all centered on making sure that we do not have another 9 11. There are numerous of these groups that turn around and take their sorrows and griffin to other organizations. I think its important for people to see how many layers are involved and to ensure their own neighborhoods there doing their own homework about who is filming sanctuary cities in whose spearheading the drives for drivers licenses, for illegal aliens or instate tuition discount, we talked about Montgomery County maryland and basically in Montgomery County its Political Action endorsed the Montgomery County executives, it is a cozy little network. I think you just articulated that will, one thing that might help for those viewing, is to truly understand open borders inc. Walking someone through the cycle of the human smuggling effort that is at the center, a family sitting in the northern triangle, guatemala, honduras, the abundan economic unrest andy like to go to america, there told you dont have to go to the normal channels, come up, pay a fee and then get taken across the river and then you can do whatever you want to do, there told that was some degree of honesty. Because the cartels are saying some of the ilLegal Organizations, pay a fee, what is that fee, different people you talk to is Something Like 7000. So a family in the United States, cousin, uncle or you or somebody back home will pay the fee. And then theyll bring somebody to the border, the pay coyotes and if the supply chain. There is a whole Business Model built around us. They will then take a video of 70 coming across the river, send the video back to the family then sometimes it will take a dad or brother and they will abuse them and take a video of the abuse, send it to them and asked for more money, more ransom the nugget across the river and sometimes are taken to a stash house and then held for ransom. In the meantime when they come across the river as you pointed out they go straight to Border Patrol because they know they get caught and released because if you have a child under the current interpretation of the law, they get the sad interpretation, to get out of jail free card, your automatic entry card, you get to come into the United States. I could go on and on but i think its important to the American People in the whole notion of open borders inc. , this is a whole system, it all ties together to do this and accomplish this to the detriment of our sovereignty to come here. And the fluency in which all of these players speak about the racket, the premium that they pay to get across, knowing that he is right there, the binational of lawyers to hold the know your right seminar, we talked about lexisnexis, inside the ice facility, theres an appendix in open borders inc. That lays out all the Legal Organizations, and entire army of what i call the illegal alien lawyers lobby, when you have every law school that is recruiting and every white shoe law firm that provides Pro Bono Legal services and its bringing cases all the way to the Supreme Court, let alone the judicial pirates, is not just the ninth Circuit Court of appeals, i understand, thats a great shorthand for people signaling that they understand theres a problem with the courts. But when you have these individual Circuit Court judges unilaterally asserting authority to overrule the president s powers on immigration, we have a systemic problem and people asked me, what can i do, one thing is to make sure if you have the power to cast votes for District Attorneys that you will vote for a District Attorney who is not going to look the other way Immigration Laws. I think we should impeach some of the open border judges as well. We could have a whole hour long conversation on just that alone given the extent to which the judges interfere with reasonable efforts for the administration to secure the border and congress to make their stances. That brings between important point which is the politicians. We have a significant debate going on about the state of the border and what the president wants to do and is trying to do, ice, Border Patrol, for the first five months of this year, my democratic colleagues repeatedly said there was no crisis. It was a made of crisis, a manufacturing crisis, i go to the floor of the house and talk about the numbers, hundreds of thousands of apprehensions in a month, i was told that was a manufactured crisis presummer in the summer, it was 0 eight, we have to admit theres a crisis. What do you think is the main problem and how much our politicians making it worse and how much is the problem of politicians attacking Law Enforcement . I think the incitement to violence of the squad and pretty much every mainstream democrat is incredibly alarming and i think thats why youre seeing the grassroots manifestation of support for ice, the disingenuousness of all the democrats in the president ial field on suddenly determining that a noncrisis was a catastrophic event, it speaks to the lack of any adult in the Democrat Party on this issue. And there used to be rational voices on this, Barbara Jordan of your home state was a true heroin and patriot and there is not one democratic president ial candidate who will stand up and say, we should not have medicare for all illegal aliens, we should put american citizens first, we should really believe in an idea of securing the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity first. And i suppose of all of them, Tulsi Gabbard has shown some glimmer of sanity on the issue but when you have the head of the Democrat National convention as someone thomas perez who used to head is become the center of the radical party. Im glad you pointed that out, as i think about the importance of your book right now and the timing of the subject matter, im glad that you mentioned the medicare for all point, in the freedman, the famous economist was asked in the 70s whether he supported open borders and he said absolutely, keep in mind this is a pre9 11 world, he said absolutely if you dont have a social where welfare state. Thats important because of the magnet and we have sovereignty in a way to manage this in the security of our citizens and migrants have a safe way to come here. But i think its an important point that you made with medicare for all, every single democrat candidate raises their hand and if you think about what that magnet would look like and what would it do to end our immigration system, the numbers weve seen this year, almost a million would swell to untold numbers. Where do you think we go from here, what you get out of this book and what do you think we do to shape the narrative and what youre trying to accomplish with open borders inc. People ask what we do now and for all seven, this is my seventh book that ive written, ive never intended my books to become doorstops or for people to read them in these books to have the shelf life of french fries. I want them to last and i want people to use the information so im trying to practice what i preach by going out there, i have seen so many brave people on the front lines for so long who have not had the privilege of having a platform that i have, you cannot let fear guide you. I also feel if you can take small steps to do what you can to defund open borders inc. And you can start small, some of these are harder than others, if you dont want to support what google is doing anymore any of google, amazon and microsoft whose employees have now declared war on ice, theyre pressuring the ceos to stop doing business, any business not all the work to homeland security, weaning yourself off of the platforms. Myspace does not exist anymore, we thought it would rule the world, it no longer exists, we dont have to yield and capitulate. So ive even changed from a National Chain that was embracing illegal immigration to a local bank in my hometown, that is my first step, then we have to lobby ourselves and raise our voices and pressure the people in the swamp to do more to defund many of these nonprofit taxexempt groups that are engaging in petitioners behavior. I would appreciate your book, i appreciate the timing and i think we can solve this if we work at it, we have solutions and we sat on committees, onepage bills that would solve these problems, one page bill that would solve the floor as catcher release. Solving ice, about a billion dollars in order to deal with the border and stop cartels, labeling cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, it takes the result to do it and i appreciate you exposing the network that is running against what the American People want which is a rational system built on the rule of law so people can come here, live the American Dream but do it safely according to a wall, i know you agree with that. Amen if we could clone you 434 times. [laughter] it would go a long way, thank you for your time i know youre busy and please keep doing what youre doing. Thank you michelle, god bless. With the federal government at work in d. C. 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