on lower east side. he was a jobber. his customers were all in new jersey. i would come with him on springfield avenue in newark. we would go to pattison in passaic. after the second world war, all the army and navy stores. i really got to know new jersey. my first wife was from bayonne new jersey. her classmate in high school was barney frank. who i got to meet when he was 16 years old. i always knew he would be a politician i'm here to talk about something that can happened to me, happen to you. it can happen to your sons. it can happen to your nephews. it can happen to your husbands. i was on top of the world. i was 76 years old. i just retired from harvard after teaching there for 50 years without a single complaint ever leveled against me. i had highest teacher rating for many years. i mentored many students. i taught 10,000 students all together. i was being honored. i got honorary degrees. i got all kind of honors. it was a time in my life to sit back and really reflect on what i had accomplished growing up in brooklyn in a poor family. first of my family who graduated from college. first in my family obviously to become a professional. suddenly out of the blue, a woman i never met, never heard of, i'm told had accused me of having sex with her when she was underage. i had never had sex with anybody who was under age even when i was underage. i tried but in my day, you know, marriage license was not proceeded by a learners permit. and so you know, i got married. i was 20 years old. that was my, my light. my wife and i, my wife who i have been married to for 33 1/2 years. we've known each other 36 years. we had a wonderful, wonderful marriage. relationship. we have a terrific daughter. and it came out of the blue this accusation. like somebody scribbled my name on a bathroom wall. i didn't take it seriously in the beginning, my wife didn't take it seriously. she accused me with another person, prince andrew. because of that it got a lot of publicity, a lot of attention. i immediately from literally the day i was accused i said several things. number one, i never met her. it didn't happen. there will not be a photograph. there will not be a witness. there will be no evidence because i never met her. never happened. not only that i can prove, i'm a fanatic keeping records about everything. since 1964, i kept in my back pocket. harvard book, i use three or four in a years. i don't believe in electronics. riverdale, 11:00, russian television at 9:30 in the morning. lunch with my granddaughter tomorrow at nobu 12:30. my life is in the books. i was able to prove where i was every single day during the two years this women had been with jeffrey epstein. i could prove that i couldn't have been where she said i was on epstein's island. on his ranch. in his airplane. his palm beach mansion. i proved it categorically. it wasn't enough that i proved it by he showed to her lawyer, famous record, david boies. these records could tell me what to look for. nobu. american express account from nobu. i'm speaking somewhere on television. i get the video. or i had to travel to charles town south carolina to see my wife's parents. i have the airline. i have categorical documented proof for every single day of two years. david boies reads it. he said to me it would have been impossible to be in those places. she is wrong, simply wrong. he was asked having said that by "the new york times." he denied it. i never said anything like that. what he didn't realize i recorded him. i have him on tape. and the tape is clear. him saying it is impossible you could have done that. she's wrong. simply wrong. i wish he had said it under oath he would be in jail for perjury. he didn't say it under oath. we'll see whether he does say it under oath. he is now suing me. the woman who accused me is suing me for defamation. they believe in america you can't proclaim your innocence. i proclaimed my innocence. i'm happy to testify in any trial, in any case, where under oath, proof, evidence. i hired former director of the fbi, louis freeh, former federal judge, former director of the fbi. here, a friend of mine who is relatively wealthy gave him a fee. no control over the investigation. non-refundable fee. you get to do the investigation. you come to whatever conclusion you think is right. he came to the conclusion it was impossible for me to have done it. i was completely innocent. the lawyers who filed it withdrew it and said, it was a mistake for them to file it. the judge struck it. we discovered emails that she had suppressed, emails between her and a journalist and a manuscript of a book she was writing about her sexual exploits which she admits she never met me. in the book, she said she saw me once discussing business with jeffrey epstein. then she discusses all the people she had sex with. george mitchell, former majority leader of united states. ahue barack, former prime minister of israel, bill richardson, former ambassador to the united states the man who invented artificial intelligence, she goes on and on, names all of them when writes her manuscript. she is interviewed by the fbi, interviewed by the fbi under penalty of perjury, describes all the people she had sex with. never says she had sex with me. suddenly she meets her lawyers. her lawyers obviously tell her there is a pot of gold at the end of this rainbow and her best friend, she tells her best friend, we have this on tape, she tells her best friend, her best friend tells me, we record the conversation consensually she never wanted to name me, obviously she didn't met me, she never had sex with me. she was pressured to name me by her lawyers. why? why would her lawyers pressure her to name me? well i didn't know the reason. i figured there must be some financial reason. and then her best friend gets in touch with me. her best friend says, the plan was to go to leslie wexner, the owner of victoria secret, and the limited who is worth $7 billion, and to tell him do you know what happened to dershowitz? you saw his reputation has been destroyed. he has been hurt. he has been dragged through the gutter. our client says you did the same thing to her that dershowitz did to her, with one exception. you made her wear victoria secret lawn lingerie. that would destroy the company. they accused me in public. they accused wexner in private. i got his wife on the show. they're trying to get money. we know about it. it is shakedown. it is a shakedown. my husband didn't do anything wrong. but i will have my lawyer talk to you. my lawyer cause me and says it is a shakedown. david boies, the lawyer, goes, has a meeting with wexner's lawyers. we don't know what happens at meeting. he tells me there was a meeting. he tells me she was accusing him but not what the outcome of the meeting was but one thing we know, wexner's name disappears from all the pleadings, all the briefs, no accusation's against him. there are only two possible explanations for that. the good explanation, david boies is an honorable good lawyer and listened to wexner's arguments and he believed them. so he wouldn't go forward. in other words he thought his own klein was lying accusing of having sex with wexner seven times, if that is the case, why doesn't he believe it about me? his other explanation he believes her, she is telling the truth f that is the case, he will not let one of the richest men in america off the hook. was hush-money came? we don't know the question to that. they will find out at trial. she and her lawyer made a mistake, they sued me for defamation. that opens up to deposition, disdiscovery, oath, we'll find out whether hush-money was paid. whether there was extortion, boyce came to the conclusion she was lying couldn't be believed. this is woman with extremely long history of lying. let me give you examples from her own writing. she writes and testifies and she says, she met tipper gore and al gore on jeffrey epstein's island. they were so lovey-dovey. they were sitting together. they couldn't keep their eyes off each other. that is why i was so surprised when they to the divorce ad little later. the only time al gore left his wife's side was to take a walk with jeffrey epstein on the beach of his island. it is a great story. it is terrific. very detailed. she got paid 160,000 by the mail of london to tell that story, other stories. the only problem, al gore, tipper gore never met jeffrey epstein. they were never on the island. the story is made up of whole cloth. she tells another story under oath and in her book. she says bill clinton was flown to the island by maxwell, a friend of jeffrey epstein's on a helicopter. she had become a pilot just a few weeks earlier with secret service agents on the helicopter. can you imagine the secret service allowing the president of the united states to be flown by a rookie pilot? it didn't happen. louie freeh, former head of fbi, checks back with sources and freedom of information act. we have evidence that bill clinton was never on the island. secret service agents never flew in the helicopter. she made up the whole story. she was interviewed early on. when she met jeffrey epstein she was 14 years old. we checked employment records. she was over age of 17, age of consent in new york and england and most of other places but she deliberately lied about her age in order to make her under age. so she could call the people who she claims she had sex pedophiles. she has long history of lying. she is caught lying. the lawyer admits she is wrong. people still believe it. go on internet, google me, go on twitter, see names i'm called on internet, baby and first letter is f, the last letter is r, won't fill it in for you. pedophile. imagine what it feels like for my grandchildren at the time who were in college. my granddaughter is a feminist. she is stand ford phd student. they have friends part of the "me too" movement, when you're accused, people suddenly believe it. my life turned from life of honor to dishonor. recently the 92nd street y, great pair gone of free speech, invited me for 25 years to give me a speech every time one of my books came out. we asked about my book about israel, defending israel, the story of my relationship with my most challenging client. can you better a topic or person to speak at 92 y. we can't have you this year. you have been accused. we don't believe it. we don't want protests. i'm blacklisted from the 92nd street y. i'm blacklisted from television stations because meghan mccain says a person accused shouldn't be allowed on television. she forgets to mention, her father who is great man had also been accused. surely she would not have wanted him to be off television while he was campaigning to run for president of the united states. so the double standard is obvious. today, if you have been falsely accused it is very hard to defend yourself. if you defend yourself you're regarded as committing a political sin. you're attacking a woman. how can you at at that time dash, i was attacked on television by stuart varney on fox, i was tough on the woman who accused me. wouldn't you be if you were falsely accused. oh, no, how dare you use words like that somebody who accused you? i will continue do that. as i said in papers i will say it in court. i will continue to tell the truth the day i die. when i die, my wife will continue to tell the truth, when she dice, my children and then my grandchildren. my friends say, write this book. it will go away. if you write the book it will bring more attention. these are my friend i've known for 70 years. they still don't understand me. i don't want to go away. i want to disprove it categorically. i wrote the book. i wrote all the documents in the back. i have the fbi interviews. i have the narrative she wrote. i have emails she tried to suppress. i have tape recordings of her lawyers. there is nobody reading this book could come away with any doubt whatsoever that this woman made up this story completely out of whole cloth. that i never met her. out of her own mouth i never met her. yet people continue to believe it. i will never get another honorary degree ever. i have gotten 15 up to this point. i will never be invited to speak at another college commencement. i used to be speak at college commencements. by the way it wasn't the accusation. i was accused in 2014. by 2015 i was completely vindicated and cleared. everybody knew it was false. lawyers withdrew it. said it was mistake. boyce is on tape admitting he was wrong. then something happened, the "me too" movement. once the "me too" movement started everything was resurrected. everything from the past came out. suddenly without any change of facts. though there were changes in facts. evidence got much stronger for me. we found suppressed emails. we found a hidden manuscript. we found a lot more evidence. the evidence was even more overwhelming i never meter had. nonetheless because of me too, 92nd street y. temple emanuel new york, were afraid. they knew they would get back from the board of directors, some of their large contributors. why do we need trouble. get somebody not controversial, why do we need this. i remember this, very similar, i grew up in the '50s. you remember what went on in the '50s. i grew up during mccarthyism. i was student government of brooklyn college. when i was president of student government, they tried to fire professors took fifth amendment in front of house un-american committee. the guy trying to fire professorss was brilliant, chairman of modern language department at brooklyn college. his name was eugene scalia, the father of nino scalia. justice scalia. the nicest man you ever want to meet but he believed that people should not be allowed to teach in colleges if they were accused. being accused was enough. being accused was it. if you defended it as i did, i was very anti-communist. i grew up in a house where we hated hitler, we hated stalin. i was not a red baby, i was very anti-communist as a kid. when i defended right of people being accused of communists at brooklyn college. the president refused to recommend me to law school. i was called a fellow traveler a pinko, much like today. i will fight the sexual mccarthyism today with the same vigor that i fought the political mccarthyism of 1950s and 1940s, until the truth comes out. there will be several trials. she has sue me defamation. i have sued her back. david boies sued me for defamation. my legal team is considering option of considering suing him back. curtis sliwa, who is on radio at abc called me a pedophile. we'll be suing him. and bringing him to court. another person who hates me writes blogs about my support for israel all the time and calls me a fascist, lied about me and we're probably going to sue him too. i did not think this is way i would spend my retirement in court. the fighting to protect my reputation but i'm not one ever to give up. i'm not one ever to let falsity over come truth. i said all of my life the best answers to falsehoods is truth. the best answer to bad speech is good speech. i would never censor anybody, try somebody making accusations if i have the ability to fight back. the law today is skewed. you would be shocked. this woman accused me, all over the newspapers. i couldn't sue her. why? because she accused me in court papers. court papers are privileged. of course the her lawyers leaked court papers to all the newspapers. told them to put it in the headlines. here i am all over the headlines being accused of having sex with underage at that time she said she was underage. of course, doesn't matter to me i never met her. she was not underage even by her own standards. when i respond, she is lying it is not true, she sues me. it is unlevel playing field. she can sue me for denying the charges. i can't sue her for making challenges. we're suing in court to level the playing field. david boies has accused me over and over again in court papers. i accused him in public. all i do is tell the truth how he went to the meeting with less any wexner. he have all of this, all of this documented. it is true. he is suing me, basically he said i called him an extortionist. by suing me put his whole career on the line. i can bring out all of his background. what he did with harvey weinstein case where he hire black cube to essentially intimidate journalists. david boies was hired by "the new york times" to be their lawyer and at same time on harvey weinstein's behalf he hired black cube to intimidate journalists for "the new york times." when the times found out about it, they fired him in a furry, saying outrageous unethical, conflict of interest. the theranos case, that is the base bad blood, the young woman who invented new way of taking blood. it was a sham. who was her lawyer? david boies, on the board of director. he was on the board of directors and a lawyer which raises problems with conflicts of interest. the most interesting case we'll bring up in court there is a writer, you probably saw her books emma klein. wrote a book about girls, stuff like that. her boyfriend sued her saying that he got the idea, she got the idea from him. boyce represented the boyfriend. bois produce as draft complaint he sends in secret. a draft complaint he will file unless they if i have all the money. in the draft complaint he outlines her entire sex life, all of her fantasies, everything that the boyfriend told her. maybe possibly photographs, whatever. it was, why do you do that? why do you put that in a draft complaint and then not file the complaint unless you're trying to get money? that is not proper for anybody to do. we're going to bring that out. so we'll have a very interesting trial. two, what, media calls us two super lawyers. we'll be confronting each other. he may have the advantage of having enormous, enormous law firm on his side. i have a better advantage. it is called truth. i have enough faith in the legal system, to believe in the end truth will prevail. but my lawyers tell me it will cost $3 million in legal fees to defend these cases. my insurance premiums wentp recently from $5,000 a year for malpractice, to $186,000 for malpractice because of this lawsuit. so bois people he can't beat me in court, he will try to bankrupt me. i will not let that happen. i am suing him back. he is very wealthy. if we win we can collect a lot of money from him as well. i'm not suing him because of the money. i would probably give the money to charity after i paid my expenses. i'm doing it to just prove the truth. so i'm comfortable. people say how are you dealing with this? it is terrible for my family. it is terrible for my wife who obviously knows the truth. knows that i never did anything like this. that i have been extremely, extremely faithful to her during this period of time when i was accused of doing all these things. in fact i was home all the time. she traveled with me a great deal. the idea, the way she portrays me. she has me having sex with two women or three women, i can't remember on an airplane. then having sex in a car with two woman in front of my house in cambridge. then she says she went into my house with the other young woman who i had sex w at the time my wife is a neuropsychologist, phd, had office in the house. saw patients. we had a nine-year-old and au pair and helper. idea two women i had sex with in the car suddenly in my house. she says, she got into epstein's car and drove to the airport. we asked her in the deposition in the earlier case, what happened to the other woman? you just left her there? well we don't know. we don't know. she probably left on her own. unbelievable fantasy stories one after the other. where does that leave prince andrew? i don't know. i met prince andrew. through jeffrey epstein. he asked to come to my class in harvard law school. sat in the class. raised his hand. made a point. dean had dinner for him. epstein was close friends with the president of harvard, provost of harvard, noam chomsky, david gergen, you name it, almost every major academic was a friend of jeffrey epstein's. so, he, all of these people were there at the time and, nobody suspected that anything, anything was wrong or he did anything at all that was untoward. soon as i found out that, my relationship changed completely. i represented him as a lawyer but he had to pay me for every minute i spoke to him. it was never a friendship after that. once the case was over, my relationship with him ended. he would call me on the phone periodically to check about status of earlier case but we didn't have a relationship or friendship after that. i was introduced to him by a very elegant and eminent women named the lady rothschild, lynn rothschild. the wife of lord rothschild. it was in that context i met prince andrew, came to my class, wrote a letter. probably worth a couple bucks now. i have a dear alan letter, signed andrew, he thanks me for inviting him to the class. describes how much he learned in the class. he mostly learned on the street. he was in the navy. he hadn't had formal education. he would love, last paragraph, i would love to continue my education with you and jeffrey epstein. he was learning from jeffrey epstein. epstein used to have all these conferences an big events fancy people went to. nobody suspected anything of this kind. hindsight is not 20/20. hindsight can skew what you see. hindsight could be 4, 800. hindsight you see people in light of what happened. how couldn't you know? we didn't know. here is the best proof i had no idea. one day i was talking to jeffrey epstein, before we knew anything happened he was at harvard with a conference and a seminar. what are you doing for christmas? my granddaughter who went to horace mann, has a soccer tournament. where? that is near palm beach. my house will be empty during christmas. i will be on the island. why don't you use the house instead of going to a hotel. so i brought my wife, my daughter, my daughter-in-law, my granddaughter, my son. we all spent four or five days in epstein's house. if there was a single appropriate picture i would have been out of there so fast. if i had known anything untoward happened in that house, that is the last place i ever would have gone. but nobody suspected anything. he kept his private life completely compartmentalized. people say you have a friendship. friendship i had him the same as colleagues in harvard. i never even knew he had a brother. we never discussed anything personal. i didn't know whether he had living parents. i didn't know, i didn't know his friend. i just knew his academic colleagues much the way i would have a act dem i believe friendship -- academic friendship with anybody else on the faculty. i'm fighting back. it will be a tough struggle. we live in the age of me too. the woman accused me may have been abused by jeffrey epstein. she may tell a compelling story. this woman was treated terriblably by jeffrey epstein. dershowitz was epstein's lawyer. this is terrible thing. it is up hill fighting in age of me-too. i will fight. i worked very hard of my reputation. 50% of my clients have been pro bono cases. i represented dissidents from the soviet union for many years. i represented people on death row. i'm helping to represent a woman, i don't know if you know about her, half israeli, half american who was arrested in russia. going through the transit area of the moscow airport, they found nine grams of marijuana in her luggage. they sentenced her to seven 1/2 years in prison. i'm helping her case pro bono. . . they don't want to be in any way smeared with what's happening to me. i understand that but i'm going to continue -- i made a commitment the day i was accused of not going to do anything different because it's false accusation. why should i change my life because someone decided to commit perjury against me? it's hard to make that argument. isaiah television and people give me push back, i am her victim. i am a victim of her perjury. she is not my victim. i never did anything to her. i never touched her, i never heard her, i never saw her or better but i victim and people can't understand that. as columbia journalism interviewer said to me you are a white rich man. you can't be a victim. well, just look at how it's changed my life and have it affected my life. i'm fighting back that old for me. i'm fighting back for everybody. i'm fighting back forever young man and called it gets falsely accuse. i'm also fighting back with young women who are abused because false accusations hurt the #me too movement. they hurt the credibility of real victims. david boies is the villain and the other lawyers, and she is a villain, not a victim. she a villain by creating a false accusation which i will be able to prove. she's going to put in doubt the credibility of other real victims. so real victims of abuse, should be really angry at her but they will not be. i will be fighting this battle relatively of them. i appreciate you coming here and listening to my story. i hope you will buy my book and i can autograph it and hope when you read the book you write to me and tell me what you think. i know you will be convinced that there's no conceivable possibility that a ever saw this will forever better but will that be enough to change the minds of so many people in the media? asked the question. i welcome your questions, your comments. let's stick to this in the beginning but if you have questions about impeachment or anything else, i'll be happy to answer anything. go ahead. >> wait for the mic. >> those accusers are liable for some penalty which i i believeu are assuming that, but assume they should be penalized. >> they are not liable for any penalties and let me tell you why. nobody ever gets prosecuted for perjury in a civil case. it's a terrible thing. a judge recently in new york wrote an opinion saying that, why you shouldn't believe what people say in civil lawsuits, like with this woman said about me because she will never be prosecuted for perjury. i've asked the fbi to look into the case but she won't be prosecuted. yes, i can sue but if everything she said she said in court that i can't sue her. she thinks she's doing this risk free. her lawyers basically i'm sure told her you have no risks. you will not be prosecuted for perjury. you can't be sued. you're not going to lose any money and you make millions in settlements. that's the incentive for going forward with these things. >> not a level field. >> it's not a level field, no. >> so tapping on to that, i would like to know, i've been fighting this issue since 2009 and i have been thinking and trying to get some help to come up with a law where if you make false allegations you can make a civil complaint or civil -- right now what happens is whether it's domestic violence, if a person says they did this, then they are automatically arrested. but there is no way a citizen can hold anybody accountable for false allegation, and i'm trying to create a law but. >> i support you, stand behind you. remember one of the big ten, the ten commandments, one of the ten commandments is now shalt not bear false witness. do you know what the punishment was for bearing false witness at the time of the bible? you got the punishment that the person you falsely accused would have gotten had that person been convicted. so if you accuse someone of murder, you got executed. if you accuse somebody of robbery, you got the punishment for robbery. if you accuse somebody of rape you got the punishment for rape. that may be a little harsh and i would not want to punish people who honestly believed that they were telling the truth. let's remember my case is unique. the only be too case in history, the only one ever where the accuser never met the accused and where there's not one as of evidence. in every me too case there was a relationship, they may have had sex, a.b. it was consensual, maybe wasn't. he worked for her, , she worked for him. maybe there was harassment, maybe it wasn't. even in the kavanaugh case they grew up in the same area, they went to parties together. in my case, zero, nothing, nothing. not a single bit of proof because it never happened i ever met her. i would not want to punish somebody who had a sexual relationship with somebody and accuse them a break because she believed it was rape right ande believed it was not. those are great. cases and want to encourage women who come forward as if they feel they've been abused or improperly treated. in my case in the beginning david boies suggested i think she may have misidentified you,, confused you with somebody else, or maybe somebody purposively misidentified her -- you come to her. in other words, what he was suggesting is maybe jeffrey epstein to protect one of his close friends with whom she was having sex said that alan dershowitz you were having sex with. it's interesting because just last week i get a call from a friend of mine, a lawyer, not a dynamite, a lawyer i worked with but i never met him. he lives in dallas. we worked on it case together now but i never laid eyes on him. he sends me an e-mail that says are you in washington? i said no, i'm in boston today speaking. he said wow, i said why? he said i'm at a bar in washington, just left a bar in washington in georgetown and there was a guy who looks a little like you sitting at the next table. i'm overhearing him and he is saying wow, it was a great used to be in, o.j. simpson and claw span bulow. so i thought it would you come he said. i walked over to him and i said are you alan dershowitz? he said yes. they had a conversation and then he left the bar with an attractive young woman. he thought that was funny. i picked up the phone, called the police in washington and i said what if this guy takes this woman home and does something terrible to her? she thinks she's with alan dershowitz. so i have twice before been misidentified. i had a situation, this was 15 or 20 years ago, this one was a little funny, where witty womes to be a lovely letter saying it was such a nice weekend the week and we spent together over a roaring fire in maine. you are such a judgment. i really appreciated. i i hope i will see you again. fortunately i had spent the weekend with my wife in new york city and we saw the letter, obviously you put one and one together and what happened is this guy picked this one up, said he was alan dershowitz. i never thought there was such a great pickup line but apparently it's work for at least two people. so in the beginning i thought maybe that this woman who accused me, it was a case of mistaken identification, possibly it was in the very beginning. not now. she clearly knows without any doubt she is falsely accusing me. and so she is somebody who want to go to jail, i believe ought to go to prison for making up the store. she's not one of these cases were it's a gray area. we need a microphone. >> don't you think we have a flawed system that allows attorneys just to gain the system? that are so many attorneys that make a living because they start lawsuits and they know people will settle instead of paying the money to go to court. >> that's terrible. the british system has some protections against that. if you bring a lawsuit in britain and you lose you have to pay the lawyers fees on the other side. i wish in my case that were true. i'd be happy to risk paying lawyers fees on the other side if i knew she would have to pay my literacies if i won because i'm fairly confident about the outcome. [inaudible] >> the media often keeps the accuser stand out of the press and put the accused name in the press. you may remember the william kennedy smith case, a dramatic case. they go to trial. it's on television and her face is covered by a balloon which really creates an immediate presumption of guilt. immediately you presume of course she's a real victim because they have covered her face and he must be the perpetrator because they haven't covered his face. he gets acquitted and the next day she takes the balloon up and she starts doing press conferences. it was a tactic. it was just a tactic, and i think in any democratic country when you accuse somebody of a serious crime, the sixth amendment requires that you be confronted by the accuser, which means that the accuser has to know your name. for example, in my case i want everybody in the public to know this woman say because i want them to come forward with evidence that she has lied about of the people. it's been very helpful to get such evidence. my name is out there. nobody has come forward with any claim that either lied about anything, so it's having the matter up in the public is very, very important. david boies didn't stop at this one woman. he told people that unless i withdraw a bar complaint, i filed bar complex against them, he would find another woman because two are better than one. so listen to the woman he found. he found another woman who claimed at the age of 22 she participated in a threesome with me. this is old and nothing ordinary about anything here, and this is a woman who went to the "new york post" and told the "new york post" reporter named maureen callahan that she has sex tapes -- this was in the run-up to the 2016 election. she has has sex tapes of hillary clinton, donald trump, no clinton and richard branson, and the post reporter said well, show them to me. no, i can't show them to you because hillary clinton has put out basically a contract on me and she's gotten people from the cia to try to kill me. and then in the letters she said she's met alan dershowitz. in fact, i was her lawyer. of course i was never her lawyer. there was no retainer agreement but never mentioned anything about having sex with me. then she meets david boies. bingo, now i remember once i had a threesome with alan dershowitz when i was 22. we are trying to get those e-mails, but they have suppressed them. the e-mails are suppressed and fortunately i spoke to the post reported who told me what was in them. we will get those e-mails on suppressed. so david boies once said to is better than one. no. when you see smoke, sometimes it means five but it sometimes means arson. when you get the same lawyer putting women up to lying, it doesn't increase and enhance the credibility of either the -- of either of them. it just destroys the credibility of the lawyer. >> up here, yeah. >> i understand your frustration with the privilege, the judicial privilege. however, isn't there still a remedy of abuse of process? >> there is. it's a very heavy burden to prove abuse of process but we will try and argue that the privilege was waived by knowingly incorporating false material that was irrelevant and all of that. we are in court. we have good lawyers. we have shot that there's no guarantees. look, i argued the first amendment that i have right to say that she is a liar and the judge turned us down on that. no, you know first amendment right to call her a liar. how many times this week have you heard people call people liars on television? the impeachment hearings on cnn, on msnbc. we've heard people called liars, guilty of espionage, guilty of treason. it's all over the place but if i call my accuser a liar, she can see me for millions of dollars, according to the current law. >> professor, i'm just curious given david boies legacy, his reputation, the facts and circumstances of this case and how formidable of an opponent you are, why do you think he is pursuing this? >> it's a good question. i think he is furious at me because i stopped him i think i'm getting the billion-dollar some lesley wexler. i exposed to. that's one possibility. second, he's mad at me because i want back. i've gone after him and he's mad at me because i take him. and i taken for in his own under the bus basically a lawyer is not supposed to say my client is in telling the truth, , she's wrong, simply wrong. even if you believe it you don't say to the opposing lawyer. he denied saying it but fortunately i have a tape recording so he's very mad at me. some in his law firm, when he is swingy, he suing me in his own name, he's not getting the law firm. he's going to defend itself. he's a lawyer, and i'm told that the law firm will not vacuum on this, i think he's become absolutely obsessed with me. people in the law firm call him ahab, that he's obsessed with me, i'm the white whale but he doesn't remember that the book doesn't end very well for ahab. >> i think that today with so many movements, me too and everything, and i think there are a lot of people who are in for the good and a lot of people who are not. you mentioned before, get member if you did your daughter or your granddaughter is involved -- >> my granddaughter is a feminist. >> tedious issues involved in a #me too movement? >> she was one of the founders, one of the most active members of the civic society which is a feminist society named after the seneca falls meeting in 1828 were really feminism began. when i buy your presence, i buy her feminist presence, a picture of, you know, things of that kind. she identifies very strongly with feminism but she's completely on my side. >> i did know if she has a platform or not it she could speak out when someone is accused in your family especially i know from you i'm going to be the first one defend someone in my family. i think but at the same time a cut almost backfire because it's almost like you're just defending it because look to you are and i was curious if she went about that. >> i wouldn't ask any of my children or grandchildren to publicly defend me. i do want to put them in an awkward position where they have to be against the friends. look, i can defend myself. as my whites as all the time, given a choice between about diagnosis diagnosis and about lawsuit, we'll take the bad lawsuit any day. so far i've been lucky with the diagnoses, and so look, , if you're going to go after me, go after me in court. that's were i thrive. i'm not the first lawyer who has been falsely accused and fought back. i'm optimistic. i don't lose any sleep over this. i get angry, and as somebody said when dershowitz it's angry he writes a book. i've written 41 books, which means i've gotten angry quite a bit over my life. i'm working on a new book called what i left the left but couldn't join the right. the case for centrist liberalism, in which i argued that, i am a liberal. i believe in a woman's right to choose and gay marriage and climate control and can control and reasonable taxation and all of those things that are liberal positions, but i can't abide the hard left with the squad and at the israel and sometimes anti-somatic aspects of it and extremism on the left, or the right -- anti-semitic. in the middle i'm kind of without a home. what i did think about trying to do is forming a movement which puts constitutional conservatives, centrist conservatives and constitutional liberals, centrist liberals all of whom share a common love of due process of free speech together against the extremes on both sides. i'm not going to do anything different from what i've been doing all my life. i've been writing a book a year. i will continue to write a book to you. i took time off for from this . wasn't what i had planned to do, but i'm just going to continue to do it but i'm not going to put my grandchildren in an awkward position. they are loving and supportive and completely behind me, but i don't need them to do anything more than that, just continue to love me, that's all. >> just a quick one. when will this trial takes place. >> with we don't know. >> where? >> in new york. one in federal court, the one where she is suing the, and he is suing me in state court. so they will both be in new york and probably they won't the over for at least a year, maybe a year and a half. great fear is i do not want to die before i totally and completely and vindicated even though my wife and my children, my grandchildren will continue the fight. i want to be able to stay healthy. i'm 81 now. i want to stay healthy and be able to fight back against the forces of evil and injustice. just one more and that's it, okay. >> i just want to say when heard about it i never believed it to one second and i never will. i think a lot of people feel that. >> i appreciate that, but you know, people who don't know me believe it. and if you just going internet, pretty awful. we live at a time when some decisions are not evidence-based. evidence-based. people don't believe in climate change, people don't believe in so many things, and for years evil didn't believe that men raped women assaulted women. it was terrible. i was very strong in favor of changing the laws to protect women, to make sure that women who are victims of assault get the day in court. i'm a strong believer in women being able to fight back, but i strongly oppose those who abuse the system as i would people who abuse any system. i'm a strong believer in the rights of african-americans not to be assaulted, , but when an african-american in chicago pretends to be assaulted, that famous guy, he's arrested, and i'm not on his side because that undercuts real victims. so i think it's so important to fight for justice and for truth, and i'm going to continue to do that as long as the good lord gives me the strength to do and as long as i've support from nice people like you. so thank you all for coming. i'm looking forward to signing your book. 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