[inaudible conversations] first of all professor thank you for moderating this and for being here. And also for the invitation to be here. And then to read it aloud i actually wrote that sentence. Look. And a handful of big ideas i mean we americans. And they dont happen in treating democracy for a long time. And then the amount of money and the jeremy it on gerrymandering that they choose their voters not the other way around, the influence of lobbyists for money and interest and frankly how hard we make it. All these things conspire from getting those outcomes. We have to go right at that and call it out with that legislation that makes the democracy function if we are to have a fighting chance on health care or immigration or criminal justice reform. And the strategy we will propos propose. So the first time today. Eyes did 24 hours now i promise 24 seconds. [laughter] i apologize but as soon as i am done we will go to a focus group. I think what you did was push pull. [laughter] and im standing before you on on right now but it just cannot be solved by democrats. Here in new hampshire. So my question to you its not a matter of beating them that you and the governor found a way to govern across the aisle. For what is good for them as well. Somebody asked me the other day about the composition of the senate and then to drive the agenda. And then i said i would love to have a few more patriots. We have got to start making the case of both sides on what is good for us. Not a party but us. That is a hard case to make in the environment with muscle memory. But if you are talking about something ee, what we need but that the ideas are compelling. Even twice i think its closer but even twice and you cant get action. Im not saying it wont go the way i wanted to but id rather actually get to it. I think maybe what i want to say is in my experience, it requires that you bring lots of voices in when you have that hour, its not just mine. When i described that as a leadership strategy, the folks you are talking about being a moderate, its not time to be the part. The reason i think that is the progressives have results. Im not saying moderate agenda, talking about ambitious and progressive goals that i think require some humility alongside the boldness in order to get it fixed. That means you have to bring in folks like that. [inaudible question] [inaudible] [laughter] thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you to the students. I also think its good for medicare. Today if you are eligible for medicare and you can, medicare doesnt get it done. Having thought reason to innovate on the public side as well i think thats how we get to the next step. Having all these voices at the table is how we get the 99 . [inaudible] interestingly, it was originally part of it. One democratic vote in the senate. But the whole theory was at that peak was supposed to be the competitive incentive for that time. How are you . Good to see you. Thank you. Tell me your name. [inaudible] want to get elected, or what we could do, you give them to me. Everybody will win. Im told it depends. [inaudible] did i get them all . One more. The first time i saw these, i got these in the mail from someone i never met. Exactly, thats a rare uniform you are wearing. Three, two, one. Perfect. Thank you. [inaudible] we are talking to so many, i got hungry. Are you doing . [inaudible] the polls are what matters. We are building fast and well and close to those people. I know from experience to be skeptical of polls. So dont keep insinuating. We need to do something other than what we are doing. We are activists and answer phone calls. There are folks just feeling like so many unseen and unheard. Do you feel like you had a legitimate job . I do. [inaudible] thats an impossible question to ask someone. I think we can win. The challenge is to introduce myself to those voters and make them understand its not just protesters who decide the outcome. They get to make that decision. I think listen, im not making you. [inaudible] i think the rules are well intended but i dont think, not just the rules for being on the stage but the format hasnt really worked as well as for amines as communicating so i hope i mean, its unrealistic for the tuesdays debate but for the ones after that, ive also heard all of the candidates say the rules should be reconsidered. Ive heard some of the campaign then said dont you dare. Because they dont want that, more exposure from some of the candidates on the stage right now. During the offense, there is talk about the Citizens United case and maybe amending the constitutions. Another way of course is with another case through the jury system. The republican seats know how to get there voters pumped up about changing their judges and that kind of stuff. Should the democrats try Something Like that . I think we have to do more than one thing but you are right from republic and leadership has been much more effective over time focusing on the composition of courts up and down and we have to be more intentional about that going forward. Thank you, everybody. [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible] careful, theres snow back there. Theyve been propagating that for years now. Oh my gosh. [inaudible] that is amazing. [inaudible] for my greatgrandfather. [inaudible] nice to meet you. Hi, julia. Nice to meet you. Hi, emma. Hello. Are you feeling okay . Yes. [inaudible] [inaudible] nice to meet you. Hi, im david. Nice to meet you. Hi, im jenna. Nice to meet you. [inaudible] thats a big broad question. We are campaigning alongside republican challenges. [inaudible] mcconnell gets to do a lot of what he does because a number of republicans do get to do what they do without him because we dont go after them. I chose not to go because what i had seen in the special election was that a lot of people were voting republican because democrats had that. We lost three by a hair and one was a do over in north carolina. Thats what we should be about. The candidates who were successful and most compelling were saying look, dont think about this solely as a win for democrats, think about this as a win for them. This is how we bring them. Not one of them were driven away by their party. I was right through alabama. You go and you talk. You are intentional about honoring them and telling them in other voters who feel this way that you are going to show up in between elections and i think we can win. I feel like one of somebody whos talked about or immigration in general, during this Campaign Cycle in response to that, its just throughout your campaign address the issue and talk more about that. Its not like they are separated from their parents, express our outrage and then go on. Maybe its obvious, i hope its obvious. First thing we have to do is [inaudible] weve been here before. At the end of my second term, we had children coming across the southern border and federal authorities were overwhelmed. President obama ask a number of states and i agree with patriotism and i explained that to the public. Not all governors agreed. For that decision, i was called everything but a child of god. A couple of days after that, the light morning on a saturday morning, my wife gave me a list and i said okay, im going to go my need security details so i run out and run this area. I thought okay, i had on a tshirt, jeans, a baseball cap and dark glasses. I pulled up and i was outed by the manager from the very first moment. He said welcome to home depot. [laughter] im standing in the checkout lane in this guy just lets me have it. Hes yelling and screaming, angry and loud. I think you were wrong and i spent my life as an immigrant. We came here legally and i think him for his feedback. Theres no. And engaging in that. I have had other encounters and stores and every one of those [inaudible] thanks for looking out for those kids. Three to one in favor of sheltering them. When i reflect on it, i told the story a bunch of times, we have come to shout our anger and whisper our kindness. We need to learn again to shiite shout our kindness. When i talk about the gap between our reality and ideal, this is one of those moments, i believe where thanks to you, we are confronting that and the opportunity to reinvent america which happens every once in a while is right there. So to me, the question when they are convinced more and more people shop justice than anger, they need permission to do so. They are encouraged to do so. They dont need to be perfect on every issue but they need to have their heart in the right place. We do that, not only do we deserve to win for the character of a country deserves it. [inaudible] [laughter] there you go. What have you been hearing in response to that . Democracy . A lot of encouragement. Which is terrific. I think its interesting how many people seem to take, need to be persuaded for our best thinking but if you have a better idea, lets hear it. People come in hot. How could you not agree . Tell me why your idea is better than mine. One of the students who was talking about, he was about 16, the one who asked me the question in the form much afterwards as we were walking, asked me to persuade you. I said no, thats your job. I love when asked the question, you give your response but then you ask what would you do . Puts them on a spot in a good way. I enjoy, i dont try to put people on the spot, i just enjoy you just want to hear. You learned so much. Yes. Which is great. [laughter] i am ready, keep going here. [inaudible] [laughter] hey man, how are you . Say that again. Call. We got a lot of wonderful support. A coffee shop with a bunch of people. They talked about lowering the voting age to 16. The other thing was the [inaudible] is also pretty interesting. Yeah. Are you in a car . Where you driving . Oh. You know, its amazing. In this building are several other stations so we came out and a gentleman is from another one. But just before starting to go down the stairs, another fellow came downstairs. You and i met when you came over to check up on us in afghanistan. [inaudible] they developed a relationship over a few years. He is always thinking theyd try to negotiate, he would say to her, i need this for my daughter so she can go to yell. Years later, they showed up for a Summer Program from Columbia Law School and they got talking and she said mike diane said, where did you go to undergrad . She said i went to yale. She said how is it from yale to columbia and the woman said because my father told me to. Then she explained and her father was the person who went on the other side of the table years before saying i need money so i can afford to send my daughter to yale. She went to you and Columbia Law School and now she works with diet. I know, i know. Isnt that beautiful . He came today. I had never met him. I never met him i met his daughter. Its cool. Its been a good day. Ive got more to do. Brick by brick. Anything for me . You did. Okay. Whos working on that story . Okay. I dont think so. Yeah. Way cool. Very good. All right. Cool stuff. Thank you, bye. What was i saying . Before i got on the phone. We were talking about 16yearold and feedback. And larry and actually, its on tape. We can roll it back. Thats right. This is more convenient than i realized. [laughter] im excited to meet her. I wonder how many women elevate in their delegation. [inaudible] i like that one. [inaudible] [inaudible] is she here . [inaudible] oh my gosh. [inaudible conversations] ive had my chance. I had a chance to go to College First in my family to do so. To serve as a civil rights lawyer, i have literally the American Dream but i know, and i always knew there were other kids on the south side just as ambitious and creative, who didnt get the chance. I think increasingly its been truth of the American Dream has been slipping further and further out of reach for more and more people and more and more places in america. My few, im testing this, this isnt what i see but economic indicators, they dont tell the whole story. Unemployment is low as long as you count both or all three of the minimum wage jobs it takes to survive. Inflation is low, as long as you count or dont count the cost of housing or education or healthcare. The very things that stabilize to launch ourselves under economic mobility. Its not just the folks in my Old Neighborhood on the south side who are feeling unseen and unheard. Small towns and Rural Communities whose kids move away to make away. Its folks in suburbs making ends meet with their credit cards for feeding their families on the local food pantry. They are oversubscribed in every suburb and every level of income and prosperity in america today. Immigrants, legal and undocumented who want nothing more than to contribute to strengthening our country without being made to feel marginalized and unwelcome. Its factory workers and day laborers and our neighbors. Yours and mine. People we know and people we have never met who cannot imagine a path in a participation in the American Dream anymore. That ought to matter to us. This country is unlike other countries in the sense that we are the only nation in Human History organized around a handful of civic ideas. Think about that. It wasnt geography or language or religion or race that defined country with a handful of ideas that struggling over time we come to identify equality, opportunity and verify. Thats what makes america great. Every once in a while we confront the gap between our reality and our ideals and we decide to reinvent ourselves. Thats what i think this moment is. I know it doesnt have to be this way. When iran for governor, the first time ive never run for anything, he didnt believe me then either. [laughter] the first time i interviewed you [inaudible] im so glad youre here. We want and then ten minutes later, the bottom fell out of the global economy. Energy efficiency and much more slower in unemployment rates. Nobody gets everything right. But we got those and other results because we ask people to turn to each other instead of on each other. We made the case that a community, neighborhood or a nation needs to understand the stake each of us have an hour neighbors dreams and struggles as well as them. Together we are going to build a future, not just for ourselves before generations to come. Im proud of that work. I think thats exactly what the moment calls for. I love the fact that we are talking about big ideas. Above this field which has a whole lot of my friends in it. The difference is that all of us have ideas, i have results. 99 of the people in massachusetts have. Theres no other state aqueducts that. We have a National Model for addressing Climate Change. The singular challenge of our time. Using our proceeds to invest in Energy Efficiency recovery and intensity behind that in creating job growth i was one of the ways that helped us climb out faster. We made big changes and reformed alongside others. Ethics and transportation, big hard things that had gone undone for a long time. Because we trimmed the agenda. We wanted and drove and ambitious agenda. If you want change that lasts, whether it public or private sector, you have to bring others in. Bold ideas but humble enough to accept the others may have other ways in accomplishing those ideas. I think thats how you get change that lasts. We have a moment today to fix big broken systems that are serving us anymore including our democracy itself which is one of proposals we rolled out yesterday. I also think we have a chance to make our economy prosperous and just for everyone, everywhere by harnessing the innovation economy and pushing it out where they are being concentrated like boston and san francisco. But you cant do that unless you have other investments along the side. We have a moment for that and we should seize it. I think part of what we must do and what my experience teaches me is that we have to start by rejecting them. I am a proud democrat but i dont thank you have to hate republicans to beat the democrats. I dont thank you have to hate business to be a social justice warrior. I dont thank you have to hate police to believe black lives matter. We keep doing it politics with false choices. I want us to be mindful that so many of the choices, i think of Climate Change as another one, we cant have a clean, green future without wrecking the economy. Its false. I want us to be mindful of that. I want us to understand that we have, in this moment, a chance to take on a given candidate but a chance to take on our own aspirations. Right now, if the character of the candidate is always an iss issue, this time its the character of the country. I believe that as we call that question and as we make our ca case, we went and we deserve to win. I hope to earn your support. Im glad youre here. Im happy to take any questions. If the democrats are successful in becoming president and they dont take control of the senate, hoping they still control the house, one of my frustrations is that president obama is for the american peop people, especially when the Supreme Court justice was nominated and im curious how you would handle that differently. To me, thats part of the leadership im looking for in a president because unfortunately, a president who successful in taking it to the public is false. Say your first name again. David. I try to make a practice of them talking about them publicly about my conversations with the president who is a longtime friend. He used to get on my last nerve. I remember when we had so when he came into office, you remember the economy was crashing. There are five governors, i was one working with the Incoming Administration and congressman stimulus bill. We have the perspective of governors having a balanced budget and knowing the cost versus essential services for people who didnt have for who had strayed safety net. That was our program so they needed to be funded. It was a whole bunch of economists. I never knew economists were on the political spectrum. I just thought they were economists. They talk to everybody. The consensus was it needs to be big enough to demonstrate the federal government has no intention of letting the economy fail because part of what happening is psychological. We ask what that number was and we were advised independently, 1 trillion. They said everything in it should be actually stimulative. Meaning programs are dollars that people were going to spend, food support and unemployment, Housing Assistance and things are actually going to get there. We made the argument we should do something in education. Because everybody was at risk. If you are in the second grade, you can get to set out the second grade until its over. Now is your chance. So we should be investing in schools. We composed this thing, 1 trillion, a third of it was infrastructure, a third was education and a third was essential services. We showed it to the Obama Administration and they said well, its big but go sell it on the hill. We went to see the democratic leadership and Democratic House and they had sticker shock and said this will never pass republicans. Democrats said this is too much, we should trim it back and we said to what . They said 750 billion, out of nowhere. It wasnt 1 trillion. Then we were told by the Incoming Administration the chief, president elect wants the first bill to be bipartisan. Go show it to republican and asked them. Their response was at least a third has to be tax cuts. We said wait a second, we went back to the economist and the economist said tax cuts are not stimulative. The Republican Leadership said thats the only way you will get republican votes and a third of it has to be tax cuts. The president said i want a bipartisan bill. So thats the deal. So what was the trillion dolla dollars . Stimulus money turned into half a trillion plus 250 million of tax cuts and it went to the floor. Not a single republican voted for it. Not one. I remember saying to the president elect, remember this. This is how its going to be. Unless you show a little south side [laughter] im not kidding. You have to know how to throw an elbow every once in a while. He, unlike anybody in the generation, was so compelling and engaging the public. It wasnt the first time this happened. Do your point, we proposed what some called democracy. Its about fixing a variety of ways we have treated our democracy for a long time. The amount of money, gerrymandering, Voter Suppression and so forth as a National Service component in it. That has to be our first agenda item because unless we fix the way our democracy functions, a lot of the ideas we are talking about dont have a chance. How would you change the way you say to the American People . And outspoken person like president obama was. What can i tell you . [laughter] i had a legislative leadership, they didnt make it easy for me. Even though they were democrat but we got 95 of what we ask for. When we asked for it. Sometimes what i have found rather than acting out probably, and how you behave privately with people that enables them to save face publicly when you win is part of the art of policy making. I can be sensational but im not sure being sensational get changed if he gets changed at all. Thats a far cry from where our country is right now. Theres a cartoon about massachusetts. There were on enrolled independence in massachusetts then registered republican and democrats combined. Most people arent buying one 100 of what my party is saying. Thank you. Yes, sir. Im going to ask about gun control. Crime rate changes over the last five years. Metropolitan areas, and california, 32. 4 the present. Indiana, 122. 8 . The common factor about all those is they have assault weapons ban. Understand are you talking about Violent Crime related to guns . Overall. It doesnt matter. If a criminal is making a crime, they can do it with a knife, gun. If they have something they want, they are going to do it. You can believe the statistic that overall in 2017, 60 of gun crimes were citizens. Only 30 were murderers. Assault weapons or rifles were involved in 4 of those where the rest worked, 54 were handguns. 2 were shotguns and 30 were reported. Usa today, cdc and the research foundation. Anyone wants to question this, you can look it up yourself. Im not lying, these are just facts. Clearly looking at these numbers, assault weapons are not the problems. Handguns are. The other problem is gently unfit people getting their hands on assault weapons. The majority of them dont use those for reasons, just sport reasons and selfdefense. Its just an increase in Violent Crimes but i dont see the connection and i dont think the connection has been shown banning assault weapons increases Violent Crimes. Weapons of war to me along with work makers and not civilians. Assault weapons have come up they are not the only reason. Its not beyond the issue of Mental Health. Frankly, responsible stewardship of gun ownership and there are other things as well, theres smart triggers and locks and other ways that i think also should be part of reforms but the connection between an increase in Violent Crimes, accepting your statistics and a ban on assault weapons is not obvious from what you say. What is obvious is that assault weapons have been used in terrible massacres and in children schools. We are having gun safety drills whats the term . Lockdowns. Active shooters. Its terrifying young kids. But i think theres a consensus around a whole host of gun safety thats consistent with the Second Amendment but they dont move for the reasons i was talking about earlier. We have a broken democracy. We dont even have the debate. We dont even have the debate. We should have the debate. Someone should present those kinds of statistics and we should argue it out. Thats how its supposed to work. The fact that you and i differ on this issue, we start in a different place doesnt mean you are evil and im not war im evil and youre not. But we dont have right now democracy that makes it possible for us to have that conversation. And how that debate. For you to persuade enough people that im headed down the wrong path, or for me to persuade enough people that i am. Thats what im talking about. There are a whole bunch of laws in the past, i wouldnt have dumped him. I thought they were bad ideas. Not all of them are part of my reform agenda. But we have a system that doesnt allow for our conversation to say we dont have to agree on everything before we agree on anything. I understand but why do you support that . The reason i said. Weve been it is our weapon of war. Weapons of war is not the way. Thats my fear. Your view is different. The best way i can forward this is, what assault weapons are used, when someone walks in, a school shooting, every Single Person has done that has Mental Health problems and on ss arise. Its not the tools, its people. A majority of people around the country that own assault weapo weapons, i have no inclination to walk into a school and start shooting at kids. Most people dont. The answer is, not banning assault weapons, its extending background checks to look into what people were like when they were kids. When i got my concealed permit, they did a background check on me. Im not crazy, thankfully but one thing i found out later on was they dont look into peoples, essentially the Health Problems or medical records from when they were children. I cant remember any specific names but there have been times where someone who does have a Mental Health problem that was brought up when they were a child, they were prescribed medication when they turned 18, its not acceptable or in the background check. Would you be open to extending background checks but not banning assault weapons . It sounds like you would be open to universal background checks. Absolutely. I think everybody should. I dont want them used on innocent people. For more on icy around the world, my friend jack here and go to the police department, this was passed this week in new hampshire, go to the police department, fill out a petition and say, not bring my family members, all you have to say hes crazy, i dont think he should have guns. Provide little to no evidence and fake interest take my guns away without asking. They can hold them up to 100 days. I have to go to court and prove otherwise. The concept might be okay but the process feels weighted against you. Are 100 days, i dont have firearms. For instance, if my neighbor takes my tv, he has guns, they just took my whole safe away. I have nothing to defend myself with. Its my tv now. Thats an exaggerated example. Let me ask you one more question. I will move on. Bump stocks as well, we can agree to disagree for tonight but universal background checks deeper, Mental Health engagement and broader services, we are on the same page there. What else would you do in the department of gun safety, if anything . Make it easier to get a concealed permit and educate people more. You have a concealed carry . We have constitutional carry so you dont have to have a concealed carry permit. Most residents do, they do get them because you can also carry and maine. You cant in massachusetts. You have to go through a different process. Sell it privately . Theres a clear solution, you have to go, how those two people go to a gun store and do the transfer there. Yeah and gun shows . Same thing . Same thing. Bring them to the store, have them run the background check that. We can get a whole bunch of the same thing. I agree with a lot but my only problem, you shouldnt ban assault weapons because we dont live in utopia. New hampshire, we dont have a lot of Violent Crime here. Ive been to california and l. A. Where its not very pretty. Im in the marine corps, i was stationed in california, ive been to all these places. It was terrifying. I wasnt allowed to carry a gun fair. Thats the one place i wanted you carry a gun but i couldnt because i wasnt 21 and my friends were 21. They said the 500dollar fee to apply for got denied. They dont have enough proof they can handle themselves properly around a firearm even though they are marines. So around the country, we have these problems. Around the world, we have these problems. I use this example a lot and its a clear example, when unfortunately, holocaust happened, the dictator of germany, he took away peoples guns. They were shipped off to concentration camps. Dictators exist and look at the orange man who is our president. Everyone was terrified people were comparing him to hitler. If he was, then theres a good chance we would have a civil war right now. I got your point. Thank you. We need to protect the American People and banning assault weapons isnt the answer. Like i said before, criminal wants to commit crime, they are going to do it. I grew up here, i went to the school here in new york. Im not going to name this person but when i was 15 years old, this person was 16, we both played football together. We arrive to practice one day, hes in jail right now for going down the wrong path, he was 15 years old and able to get his hands on a gun. He bought illegally off someone, who knows where. Thats what he told me. Criminals are going to get guns, they are going to get what they want because they are criminals. Make i want to make one more point. Then move on. I think the assault weapons and magazines, we will have to agree to disagree for the moment but the reason i think there has to be federal movement at a minimum is because doing statebystate doesnt work. We have just as you said, the example you gave, that firearm was acquired in massachusetts and brought here. 200. We have some of the best gun safety clause in massachusetts. Doesnt matter. I do think we have to have an overarching federal system. I hope it includes things we agree on and a couple of things we dont agree on. But well have a functioning democracy and we can have that argument there. But the conditions are terrible. And then a question it with that strategy. People have terrible conditions. And i should have made the point of mandatory minimum sentences and adds an amazing program. But earlier this week full time job training teaching people how to deescalate and how to show up on time. Its about making it possible and the most likely that the hardest cases so people can learn as they would say. Thank you. So a couple years ago it is a marvelous program. And in massachusetts. I find dad a complement. And there are so many people that have three jobs. But yes we see kids today working at minimum wage jobs and then to have two years. Hello. How are you . She will be voting in 2024. Are you ready . Thank you very much. I appreciate you. How are you . And then a couple hours ago so that is a total range of topics that you dont hear. Thank you for coming. You are a good man regardless of what happens. But i thank you are a good man. Thank you. Thanks a lot for coming. Thank you for coming. She is doing great. Thank you. Nice to meet you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible] i am not sold because we havent figured it out but carbon three is a lot of energy but to govern for the longterm a more longterm problem we have not found yet so what we use that could be handled. And then from other countries. But technology is that we need much more and much better storage because we have a lot of time and investment going into that which is encouraging but people are funny where wind belongs. I want to say is controversial where it belongs but with deep water we did some preparations that were attractive near Marthas Vineyard which given the size of the proposed project with that carbon clean energy, i like that. And that it hasnt been commercialized and then to also be carbon free for nuclear one of the things and we need to let the ideas flourish because it will be one solution. Its so nice. Thank you. Good night. [laughter] that you want to be nationalize . 1997. [inaudible] when i was in the sixth grade i had a teacher a big urban school. She taught us to count and say greetings in german. She took us to the opera the first time i had ever been to the opera. I had no idea and had no idea what they were saying. But she use that to help us imagine to be citizens of the world. And we were meant to feel terrified if we acted up. [laughter]. Three, two, one. Thank you for coming. [inaudible conversations]